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Ex-Secretary of State Powell Slams Storm Effort
Reuters ^ | Sep 09, 2005

Posted on 09/09/2005 7:20:15 AM PDT by ExitPurgamentum

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To: pissant

He stood up in front of the UN and put up all the evidence that was the basis for the invasion. None of it was confirmed after the invasion - so he and Tenet resigned.


41 posted on 09/09/2005 7:51:54 AM PDT by conserv13
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To: ExitPurgamentum

Now that Powell is not a lap dog anymore for Bush he can speak his mind. I sure wish he would have elaborated on what recent foreign intelligence lied to us about WMD.


42 posted on 09/09/2005 7:52:20 AM PDT by doc
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To: pissant

Good point, theere were certainly more screwups at the state and local levels...I think I need to skip over to a lighter topic..this whole NO situation is just a mess


43 posted on 09/09/2005 7:52:35 AM PDT by Just Jack
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To: ExitPurgamentum
"There have been a lot of failures at a lot of levels -- local, state and federal," Powell said in an ABC interview for the "20/20" program to be broadcast on Friday evening.

I suspect this quote is taken out of context, and followed a leading question by the interviewer that was full of criticism against President Bush's administration and the feds, and Powell was diplomatically spreading the blame to state and local levels with his response.

44 posted on 09/09/2005 7:52:53 AM PDT by ValerieUSA
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To: ExitPurgamentum
The BEST thing George Bush can do is appoint Mayor Nagin as the CZAR and to make matters even better, his VICE-CZAR should be Blanco.

This would be a not to subtle way of telling the country what he thinks of the POSITION of "Hurricane Czar".

45 posted on 09/09/2005 7:52:58 AM PDT by PISANO (We will not tire......We will not falter.......We will NOT FAIL!!! .........GW Bush [Oct 2001])
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To: 12B

We?
susie


46 posted on 09/09/2005 7:53:01 AM PDT by brytlea (All you need as ID to vote in FL is your Costco card...)
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To: pissant

FEMA now has an added level of bureaucracy and that didn't work well. I agree that the feds were incredibly efficient and effective. But that's still a long way from as good as they could have been. We always need to follow up and see how we can improve things.


47 posted on 09/09/2005 7:53:16 AM PDT by twigs
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To: ExitPurgamentum

"There have been a lot of failures at a lot of levels -- local, state and federal..."

I'm still waiting for someone to tell me what the failure was on the federal level, citing the appropriate chapter and verse of the applicable law or regulation, and not just passing on the claims of the liberals and MSM.


48 posted on 09/09/2005 7:54:19 AM PDT by Binghamton_native
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To: conserv13

I don't recall him saying that was the reason for his resignation, but you could be correct.


49 posted on 09/09/2005 7:54:27 AM PDT by pissant
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To: Just Jack

LOL. I hear ya!


50 posted on 09/09/2005 7:55:00 AM PDT by pissant
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To: ExitPurgamentum

Powell did not "slam" the relief efforts, as Reuters says. While he indicated things went wrong, he did not "slam" anything. However, he does seem to miss the point that people in NO waited for the "government" to rescue them, instead of helping themselves, as their African ancestors did and their African peers do now. Years of welfare seem to have erased the strong tradition of self-sufficiency among certain strata of black people in the US. Sad, indeed.


51 posted on 09/09/2005 7:55:16 AM PDT by astounded (We don't need no stinkin' rules of engagement...)
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To: brytlea
We?

Yes, we Americans. What did you think I was talking about?

52 posted on 09/09/2005 7:56:13 AM PDT by 12B
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To: twigs

Oh I agree with that. But there is a wide line of difference between "how can we be even faster" and "Bush racist, FEMA dawdled, National Guard incompetent". It's ridiculous.


53 posted on 09/09/2005 7:58:08 AM PDT by pissant
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To: 12B

I don't see any 'mistakes' on the federal level because they just followed their plan. The plan however, may be flawed.


54 posted on 09/09/2005 7:59:22 AM PDT by Fawn (Blank-O Denied---People Died.)
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To: ExitPurgamentum

"He said he did not think that race was a factor in the slow response, but that many of those unable to leave New Orleans in time were trapped by poverty which disproportionately affects blacks."

He's right there. However, FEMA helped fund a plan to get those people out. The local government failed to implement it. They just left the school busses sitting idle.

Who is responsible? The local government those people elected. The same government that keeps telling those people that it's the republicans that are at fault for all their problems, and that the democrats are the ones that are looking out for them.

When are the poor going to learn that the Democrats are not their friends?

I'd also like to see Powell point out what the major failings were on the part of the federal government. It looks to me like they did their jobs well, and if they hadn't been there constatnly pressuring the governor to take action and moving into action as they were given authority, many more would have died.

Powell should know better. He should definately understand how our government works and what are the limitations on the federal government in such cases.


55 posted on 09/09/2005 8:00:31 AM PDT by untrained skeptic
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To: Willie Green
Don't you think that there's a correlation between economics and community values?

Studies show an anecdotal correlation. Causation has never been shown.

Anecdotally, values in the black, impoverished community in the 1940s and 50s (among other time periods) were excellent. Particularly by comparison to current values in the impoverished community. (of any race)

Thomas Sowell has written several excellent books which cite this and much other evidence which lead to definitive proof that causation does not exist, only the casual, nebulous correlation to which many refer.

56 posted on 09/09/2005 8:00:51 AM PDT by Protagoras (My liberal neighbor is more dangerous to my freedom than Osama Bin Laden.)
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To: pissant
But there is a wide line of difference between "how can we be even faster" and "Bush racist, FEMA dawdled, National Guard incompetent". It's ridiculous.

Well put.

57 posted on 09/09/2005 8:01:22 AM PDT by conserv13
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To: hombre_sincero

Sheeeeesh!
I can't believe how many FReepers here have fallen for this media trick. The article is biased, written before the interviews airs, so the writer has a few moments to lead the public into a bushbashfest. Obviously this is not what Powell intended. He may have made some stipulations with 20/20 before agreeing to do the interview to make sure his comments weren't edited unduly, but I doubt he had any control of the authenticity in this article.


58 posted on 09/09/2005 8:01:36 AM PDT by ValerieUSA
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To: 12B
I'm having a hard time finding something in his remarks to disagree with. There were a lot of mistakes made at all levels of government and we did not make the best use of time ahead of the storm.

I agree. I think that appointing Secretary Powell to be the "Katrina Czar" would be a smart move on so many levels. For one thing, it would help reduce some of the political garbage coming from the 'Rats and actually help everyone focus on what practical steps to take to recover from this disaster.

59 posted on 09/09/2005 8:01:36 AM PDT by You Dirty Rats
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To: AppyPappy
The Bushbots thought this guy walked on water and wouldn't listen to anything bad about him.

And when he was SecState, he was a good soldier and did what the president asked.

But I think now he's running for president. On the Democratic ticket.

60 posted on 09/09/2005 8:04:18 AM PDT by narby (You shall name Him Prego and He shall bring in a new era of love.)
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