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Fewer Bodies Than Expected Found in Sweeps
AP ^ | September 9, 2005 | DON BABWIN

Posted on 09/09/2005 11:05:16 AM PDT by West Coast Conservative

Authorities said Friday that their first systematic sweep of the city found far fewer bodies than expected, suggesting that Hurricane Katrina's death toll may not be the catastrophic 10,000 feared.

"I think there's some encouragement in what we've found in the initial sweeps that some of the catastrophic deaths that some people predicted may not have occurred," said Terry Ebbert, New Orleans' homeland security chief.

Ebbert declined to give a new estimate of the dead.

Authorities turned their attention to counting and removing the dead in a grid-by-grid search of the city after spending days cajoling, persuading and all but strong-arming the living into leaving the shattered city because of the danger of fires and disease from the filthy, corpse-laden floodwaters.

"Numbers so far are relatively minor as compared to the dire projections of 10,000," Ebbert said.

Mayor Ray Nagin had suggested over the weekend that the death toll could climb that high, and authorities ordered 25,000 body bags as they started gathering up the dead across a landscape awash in corpses.

Separately, Maj. Gen. Bill Caldwell, commanding general of 82nd Airborne Division, said the last of the bodies at the convention center would be taken out on Friday. Thousands of people took shelter there after the hurricane for days with little or no food or water, in what became an increasingly chaotic and violent situation.

In a small sign of progress, authorities said the New Orleans airport will reopen to commercial flights on Sept. 19. Caldwell said water and power are functioning at the airport.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: katrina; neworleans
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To: West Coast Conservative

The Democrats must be pissed off.......


101 posted on 09/10/2005 2:07:24 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: West Coast Conservative

People actually saved themselves instead of sitting around waiting to die????


102 posted on 09/10/2005 2:09:10 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: West Coast Conservative

and daschle is very concerned..


103 posted on 09/10/2005 2:54:15 AM PDT by Cinnamon
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To: Names Ash Housewares
I worry because the deepest parts have not been drained yet. Are those houses also part of the sweeps? Checking attics?

Yes, according to video clips on the news.
104 posted on 09/10/2005 3:03:44 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: Cougar66

Nope - the “Voodoo cemetery” came through intact. No graves opened.


105 posted on 09/10/2005 3:05:18 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: pepperhead

But there is a mandatory evacuation going on. People are being challenged at gunpoint for being on the street. It is not economically sensible to keep a hotel open in such circumstances, even if you can get special permission from the authorities to open and employ staff.


106 posted on 09/10/2005 3:57:47 AM PDT by Graymatter
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To: West Coast Conservative

You truncated the headline which should read, "Fewer bodies than expected found in swamp; more, fatter alligators observed".


107 posted on 09/10/2005 5:43:21 AM PDT by Lunkhead_01
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To: West Coast Conservative

108 posted on 09/10/2005 7:20:42 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Gentlemen may cry, "Peace! Peace!" -- but there is no peace. - Patrick Henry)
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To: dfwgator

Waiting for Major Owens to claim that 20,000 blacks were eaten by sharks in the Gulf after Katrina washed them away.

Actually, they will probably claim that many were eaten by gators or crocs.


109 posted on 09/10/2005 7:30:18 AM PDT by moog
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To: conservativehusker

"They are still there???????????????????????"

It's unbelievable, isn't it?


110 posted on 09/10/2005 7:50:17 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: CharlesWayneCT

"How many deaths were there at the Superdome?"

There were at least 2, the bodies were shown all over the place. There was one person dead in a wheelchair, and another just lying on the ground.

How the heck they just left these people there, in the middle of the city, for a week just amazes me.


111 posted on 09/10/2005 7:53:44 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: West Coast Conservative

This has to be very disappointing for CNN and the Democrats.


112 posted on 09/10/2005 9:00:28 AM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Hate yourself? Hate everybody else, too? You'll be at home with the Democrats!)
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To: dfwgator

Howidid they get in the Gulf from N.O.?
Shrimpers have been snatching bodies from the waters that may have come from Miss.& lower La.


113 posted on 09/10/2005 12:29:57 PM PDT by hubno (hub)
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To: spanalot

Did you not read thatCNN is trying to get approval to dig up bodies to show America the Federal Govt failure. They want us to see the "decaying" corps that suffered due to the Federal govt.


114 posted on 09/10/2005 12:38:00 PM PDT by Texas4ever
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To: Texas4ever

I haven't read all the posts yet but does anyone have the current death toll?


115 posted on 09/10/2005 1:29:39 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks (If you don't like Jesus, you can go to hell.)
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To: West Coast Conservative


Hmmmm, seems like nagin exagerated just a weeeee too much.


116 posted on 09/10/2005 1:58:48 PM PDT by rockabyebaby (I'm not afraid to say out loud what the rest of you are afraid to admit.)
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To: democratstomper

The mayor was confused about the casualties since he knew there were 200,000 registered voters (D) that did not show up. The people that normally vote for them had already left town.


117 posted on 09/10/2005 2:07:41 PM PDT by damper99
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To: FlingWingFlyer

I'm new here and in a quandry. I hate the MSM just as much as everyone else but am often forced to watch CNN. I'm deaf and Fox News isn't captioned all the time. I know I can't do anything about it so I watch CNN when necessary with TONS OF GRAINS OF SALT.


118 posted on 09/10/2005 2:37:58 PM PDT by Bapper64
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To: dangus
"Miss, is there something you're not telling us?"
"Yes, we're out of coffee."

Surely, you can't be serious...

119 posted on 09/10/2005 2:46:55 PM PDT by AndrewB
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To: Dog Gone
Are they searching inside the homes, or just counting the floaters in the streets?

I'm wondering how they are calculating the number of anticipated dead. If they are going by inflated precinct counts, there are a number of "voters" who have been dead for years; those bodies will not show up, live or dead, which will lead to "fewer than expected." Those "bodies" only show on election day.

Also read somewhere on Free Republic that they were only counting bodies that were id'd; the unnamed, unknown were not a part of the official body count.

Sumtin' like that.
120 posted on 09/10/2005 2:51:17 PM PDT by hummingbird (21st Century Newsreporting - "Don't get me started!")
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To: West Coast Conservative

msnbc's morning chick today sounded let down but it appeared that someone in her ear told her to not go there.


121 posted on 09/10/2005 3:41:47 PM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org Daily Newsfeeds & Weekly Update)
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To: noblejones

"We all know Bush and Cheney love a hearty stew made from poor dead black people's bodies."

Would that be 'po fokes ettoufet?


122 posted on 09/10/2005 4:06:45 PM PDT by roaddog727 (P=3/8 A. or, P=plenty...............)
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To: Clint N. Suhks
As of 21:08, 10/9/2005, officially 372. Katrina death toll swells to 372

As of 10/8/2005 the US Coast Guard had rescued over 23,900 people, most by helicopter. US Navy, NG and other active military, ground based emergency units have rescued hundreds, perhaps thousands more. Over 350 helicopters have been deployed to support rescue and relief operations. In contrast over 425 aircraft of all types, including fixed-wing and rotary, were deployed in Iraq as of March 2004.
123 posted on 09/10/2005 5:03:22 PM PDT by gpapa (Boost FR Traffic! Make FR your home page!)
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To: roaddog727

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Would that be 'po fokes ettoufet?
<<

Dass de fact!


124 posted on 09/10/2005 5:24:32 PM PDT by noblejones
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To: Bapper64

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I'm deaf and Fox News isn't captioned all the time. I know I can't do anything about it . . .
<<

Figure out who we can write a letter to and I'll get all my friends along with myself to lobby for captions. They really need to do that.


125 posted on 09/10/2005 5:29:44 PM PDT by noblejones
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To: snarkytart
SO all this hysteria was for what?

1) Ratings.

2) An orgy of Bush bashing.

3) Ratings.

126 posted on 09/10/2005 7:22:45 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Hate yourself? Hate everybody else, too? You'll be at home with the Democrats!)
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To: West Coast Conservative
Alternate headline:

Democratic voter registration comes up short of projections.

127 posted on 09/10/2005 7:25:17 PM PDT by N. Theknow (Be a glowworm. A glowworm's never glum. How can you be grumpy when the sun shines out your bum?)
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To: IronJack
I'm starting to get the disturbing feeling that I've been duped by media hysteria.

Ya think?

The MSM is an appendage of the Democrat criminal political machine. The Dims hold out a bone and the MSM barks away. Even before they are called to task to answer their for their lies, they have already moved on to the next stage of demagoguery. They've got it down to a science.

Notice now the accusations are revolving around exactly how much in "benefits" the "mommy government" is obligated to deliver. Already, $2,000 in cash benefits, to be used to purchase alcohol, drugs, and designer clothes is being sneered upon as inadequate and stingy -- what, while the poor children are starving and all. We should give each one $20,000 cash up front and then $2,000 per month for live, plus a house and car -- all for the fact that they were plopped out like sausages some years ago.

128 posted on 09/10/2005 7:39:36 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Hate yourself? Hate everybody else, too? You'll be at home with the Democrats!)
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To: Texas4ever

"Did you not read thatCNN is trying to get approval to dig up bodies to show America the Federal Govt failure. They want us to see the "decaying" corps that suffered due to the Federal govt."

hypocritical insofar as they wont show 9/11 dead



129 posted on 09/10/2005 8:57:03 PM PDT by spanalot
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To: Bapper64

I will tell you just like I told my deaf daughter and SIL...until we talk FOX into captioning everything, stick around here where all of the news is all the time. I wouldn't watch CNN if they PAID me to!


130 posted on 09/11/2005 10:17:20 AM PDT by flyonthewall
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To: IronJack

Iron Jack, I think you're right. The Katrina coverage was the most hysterical I've ever seen.


131 posted on 09/11/2005 10:49:48 AM PDT by thathamiltonwoman
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To: West Coast Conservative
In a small sign of progress, authorities said the New Orleans airport will reopen to commercial flights on Sept. 19. Caldwell said water and power are functioning at the airport.

Obviously, the airport was not affected by the hurricane or the flood. That said, we need to know why helicopters weren*t used to evacuate people from the airport? IF the mayor would have sent people to the airport instead of to the Super Dome, they could have got them out of there a lot sooner than they did.

The more I know about this the more I place blame on the mayor. He should have told FEMA and Homeland Security that the airport would not be under water and that they should come with the helicopters. Even if they had to use the boats to transport them over streets that might have been under water, they would have got them out a lot sooner. They could have brought in water and food to take care of the people who were waiting for the helicopters.

132 posted on 09/11/2005 11:26:43 AM PDT by NRA2BFree (PRAY FOR THE HURRICANE VICTIMS AND RESCUE WORKERS!)
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To: West Coast Conservative
gathering up the dead across a landscape awash in corpses.

Guess the AP will be sadly disappointed.

133 posted on 09/11/2005 4:48:53 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: West Coast Conservative
In a related story, The Old York Times has repositioned their reporters from New Orleans to Getmo!

Pray for W, New Orleans, MS and Our Freedom Fighting Troops

134 posted on 09/11/2005 4:53:42 PM PDT by bray (Pray for the Freedom of the Iraqis from Islam)
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To: dfwgator

LOL!


135 posted on 09/11/2005 11:41:04 PM PDT by Atchafalaya (When you're there, that's the best!!)
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To: dfwgator

LOL!


136 posted on 09/11/2005 11:47:54 PM PDT by Atchafalaya (When you're there, that's the best!!)
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To: The Red Zone
Good morning.
"What about the buildings still underwater?"

What about the lethal mold and disease carrying mosquitos that TPTB are using as an excuse for removing citizens from their dry homes?

Michael Frazier
137 posted on 09/12/2005 7:14:30 AM PDT by brazzaville (no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: West Coast Conservative
Looks like I nailed this one. I predicted final death toll for New Orleans to end up at 250. The reasoning is set forth in the following post.

New Orleans Death Toll 10,000? I don't think so.
138 posted on 09/12/2005 7:57:36 AM PDT by BillCompton
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To: West Coast Conservative

Looks like Galveston 1900 will remain the worst natural disaster ever to hit the united states, not that anyone will ever know or remember.


139 posted on 09/12/2005 8:00:30 AM PDT by johnb838 (Pray for Mississippi, Alabama, and for the repose of the soul of New Orleans.)
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To: BillCompton

You're closer than MSM experts. And I saw a vital stat that NOLA records about 30 death/day in normal times.

So may of the corpses are likely to be normal mortality, and not storm/flood-related.


140 posted on 09/12/2005 8:09:13 AM PDT by hlmencken3 ("...politics is a religion substitute for liberals and they can't stand the competition")
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To: conservativehusker

Bush has released gators who ate the bodies.
Howard Dean has proof.


141 posted on 09/12/2005 12:27:26 PM PDT by Holicheese (Would you like a beer? No thanks, I will have a bud light.)
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To: Glacier Honey

Wasn't Cammile under Clinton?


142 posted on 09/12/2005 1:31:06 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: flyonthewall

This really has become my main source of news. Even though I know Fox News is far from perfect, it would be nice to have more captioning. I have sent an e-mail on their web site asking for a snail mail name and address of someone to personally write to at Fox. I'll send you a private reply with it if you would like to write.


143 posted on 09/13/2005 3:12:38 AM PDT by Bapper64
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To: IrishGOP

"they sound disappointed."

Some people have a morbid side. Before Katrina hit I stupidly predicted on FR that casualties probably wouldn't be as high as everyone was predicting. I was quickly put in my place by several posters who informed me that casualties would be in the multiple thousands.

The US is not a third world country, where thousands would have died if a similar sized storm had hit. New Orleans turned out to far more third world than I expected however.


144 posted on 09/13/2005 7:10:46 AM PDT by monday
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