Skip to comments.In Nursing Home, a Fight Lost to Rising Waters (Broussard less than truthful on Meet The Press)
Posted on 09/10/2005 7:25:02 AM PDT by jrusty101Edited on 09/11/2005 5:24:32 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
St. Bernard Parish officials say that 32 of the home's roughly 60 residents died on Aug. 29, more than a week ago.
"..And finally, on the question I raised a few days ago about Jefferson Parish President Aaron Broussards tearful story about his emergency managers mother drowning in a St. Bernard nursing home, I think the evidence shows pretty clearly that Broussard was embellishing the story. Readers helpfully pointed me to the following news accounts:
New York Times: In nursing home, a fight lost to rising waters.
Newsday: Desperately seeking survivors.
MSNBC: This anger comes from watching death.
From the MSNBC item:
The man he was talking about is Thomas Rodrigue, who told Dateline that his 92-year-old mother was one of 32 elderly people found dead at the St. Ritas nursing home.
"..The man he was talking about is Thomas Rodrigue, who told Dateline that his 92-year-old mother was one of 32 elderly people found dead at the St. Ritas nursing home..."
But the 32 people who died at St. Ritas nursing home didnt die on Friday; they died earlier in the week, when the floodwaters first inundated the low-lying facility. Rather than being attributable to the federal authorities slow response (which was pretty much the point of Broussards version of the story), the death of those senior citizens was more the fault of local authorities (who failed to evacuate them) than of federal officials (who wouldnt have been there in time to rescue them under the best of circumstances).
So, assuming the MSNBC story is accurate, Broussards story was at least significantly embellished. The tear-jerking account of the repeated calls to momma were fictional (or at least were displaced from their actual time of occurrence, which would have to have been before or during the storm, not during the several days afterward when FEMA was MIA). And if that part was fiction, it would mean that Broussard, for all the apparent sincerity in his emotional on-air breakdown, was willing to lie in order to make his story work better as political theater, which in turn makes it harder for me to credit the rest of the slow-FEMA-response anecdotes he described .."
I wasn't really moved by it. He looked like a corn-pone phony crying crocodile tears -- a dime store phony. I feel sorry for the deceased and their families but not for people exploiting them.
I have seen his kind too many times, and in particular, with his accent (aka the "huckster drawl of mock trustworthiness.")
That's DAILY and we got over 1 million in metro area.
(Data are for U.S. in 2002)
Number of deaths: 2,443,387
Death rate: 845.3 deaths per 100,000 population
8453 per million / 365 days = 23+ daily
(From here --> http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/deaths.htm )
I am telling you, I am glad I live in this little bitty rural community in Virginia!!!
Yep. Just as I said, those people who allowed those nursing home patients should be convicted of criminal negligence or involuntary manslaughter. It was beyond belief!!!
wonder how many shootings,rapes, robberies and gang violence happen on an average day(before Katrina) in the Big Easy?
Not only is it possible-I heard Maxine Waters say that's why they didn't leave....pension and welfare checks come at the first of the month. I heard it with my own ears and posted it somewhere on FR.
How's abouT, DEMOCRATS LIED! PEOPLE DIED!!
Seems it is just easiesr to go with the flow. . .i.e. 'blame Bush'.
No doubt this lie will make it, along witih all the others, into the Demrat recasting of tragedies post Katrina. . .
I ust MOVED from the Big City to get away from those thieves who can steal more with a pen than they EVER could with a gun, and they found me out in the countryside, 30 miles from downtown.
The convinced 7 county commissioners to steal MORE of my money and give half of it to them!
(Colts getting a new, taxpayer (NOT football fan) paid for stadium!)
The truth now will appear a 'piling on'. . .and so more easily ignored. . .
Elsie, you need to move down here. We don't have any football stadiums around here, except for the local colleges, and they pay for them with contributions. Our taxes are low. We have lots of middle class folks from the northeast who move down here and buy mansions for what they got for their small homes up north! However, that does drive up our property values. It is a mixed bag. Oh, well.
"No doubt this lie will make it, along witih all the others, into the Demrat recasting of tragedies post Katrina. . ."
I'm afraid you're right, Cricket. I just did a Google search on "Aaron Broussard"...there are many links to his MTP performance, and most describe it as "the most moving moment......blah,blah,blah". No one, so far, is calling him on his LIES!
. . .it is so painful and unneccesary and contrary to any political wisdom that the Repubs do not fight the Lib lies. . .
when these Libs shout from their lies from the housetops; we must go louder - and higher.
Come over to the Ms death count thread
and talk to us.
The fact that he was already under indictment for bribery etc. probably had nothing to do with it
I wonder if Broussard will be called to testify at the trial, seeing as how he's placed himself as a material witness in the case, having received all of these phone calls.
Could be interesting...
I have thought a lot about the elderly in nursing homes after this. I would get there myself ahead of time and get my own out before I'd trust someone else to do it. Why you trust others to take care of your own in a crisis is beyond me.
"wonder how many shootings,rapes, robberies and gang violence happen on an average day(before Katrina) in the Big Easy?"
New Orleans was on track to be, yet again, the murder capital of the US this year, pointing toward 300 murders in 2005, or, just under 1 per day. In NO alone.
OK. How many of these folks were White? And the owners?
That would be so nice but just one little problem. They don't want us to get a word in edgewise. If we wait for them to be done and politely give our story, first they will never be done and second they will constantly and loudly interrupt as often as they can. The moderator often doesn't want to appear to "pick on them" too much and won't stop them from interrupting hardly at all. Their tactic is to spew out as many lies as they can as fast as they can and as often as they can. Their tactic is to keep us from talking. If you want to play nice with them the truth will hardly if at all get out. It will be surrounded with 100 lies. Some have learned to "take the gloves off" when playing with these liberal big mouth people. One must "take their gloves off" when dealing with those who have their tactics down to propagate lies and suppress truth. It's like asking our soldiers to be polite and go by all the pc rules when they are fighting terrorist. It doesn't work. They will run over the top of us.
This story reminds me of something we all should have learned from the Clinton years...
Get your version of the story out there, make your opponent look like the Grim Reaper and by the time the actual *FACTS* are accounted for, your version is cemented as the "truth" of what happened.
"..Valued lies.com reader trg34211 supplied a link to the following transcript from CNNs Newsnight program. It features an interview with Tom Rodrigue, whose mothers death by drowning after days of frantic phonecalls was tearfully described by Jefferson Parish President Aaron Broussard on Meet the Press last week: Newsnight with Aaron Brown.
It seems increasingly likely that Rodrigues mother died in the initial flooding on Monday, August 29, and that Broussards story about frantic phonecalls on the subsequent Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday was a lie..."
"Anyway, heres the transcript:
CANDIOTTI: Tom Rodrigue, himself a former emergency management director for Louisianas National Guard, was out of town when Katrina turned toward New Orleans. He started calling the nursing home Saturday, urging that it be evacuated.
RODRIGUE: You know, they indicated they were not going to leave.
CANDIOTTI: Sunday night, as Katrina struck, Rodrigue was 30 miles away directing emergency personnel for Jefferson Parish. He called the nursing home in St. Bernard Parish again, pleading with officials to get the residents out. He was told they were going to try.
RODRIGUE: I called the St. Bernard officials again and, you know, told them that, you know, theyve got to get, you know, these people out. And they said they notified them, and that they werent they refused to leave. And I said, Well, you need to send the sheriffs office down there and make them leave. And he said, Im doing everything I can.
CANDIOTTI: On Wednesday, 10 days after Katrina struck, authorities began removing bodies from St. Ritas Nursing Home. Eva Rodrigues remains have not yet been found....."
I believe that Mr. Broussard and other local officials need to explain to the American public why they did not evacuate these people and why he altered the story and shifted blame to the Federal Government.
All in all, though, if you make your point in a forceful and forthright manner, keeping your composure, yet making sure your point is heard, the other guy is still going to look like the turkey. Howard Dean anyone?
"The president did nothing wrong"
I wish I knew who designed it. They deserve all the crredit. It *is* cute, isn't it?
Assuming anyone actually looked at this story, they may not want this particular one because a minor Louisianna pol lying on TV isn't big news and exposing this man in the face of all the misery after Katrina might be viewed as insensitive.
In the case of Russert, I don't think he would bother, no MSM has picked up on Broussard's story. Russert will let it slide.
probably not life insurance but a wrongful death suit would yield bigger dollars against the feds instead of the locals.
More than likely, this was politcal theatre exploitation of a 92 year old mom's death and has nothing to do with money.
Like I said before, those who are most hysterical seem like they might have the most to hide. Blanco, Nagin, Landrieu and Broussard.
Ross Perot already fixed the election that brought Clinton to power in the first place. That could have been perceived as a coup. Freerepublic was born fighting the Clinton corruption. Then 1994 occurred and the Republicans swept into power in the legislature. Then right after the OKC bombing, Clinton's fed cronies were actively going after US militia and Vast Right Wing Consiprators while ignoring any possible connection to Islamic terrorism. So the situation was much more bleak back then. Now we have some lame duck Democrats having to cry like babies on TV just to get the average American citizen to even notice them. Their allies in Hollywood have to threaten to 'leave the country' to get the average American to even notice that the lefties are even upset. While duck hunting sure can be fun, there are bigger game to go after (Chinese Dragons). Hollywood just had a miserable summer and its over priced talentless stars are too stoned to realize that the Party is over.
Rodrigue did make multiple calls to the nursing home to check on evacuation progress and to the local authorities to try to get the home evacuated prior to the storm.
Rodrigue is on record as saying he heard nothing about his mother and the nursing home until four days after Katrina, when his son found the names of those evacuated from St. Rita's listed on the Internet.
At the link above, he also describes in more detail his conversations with St. Rita's staff and local authorities. (registration is required, you can bybass at bugmenot.com)
All those who perished by drowning at St. Rita's died on the 29th in the immediate aftermath of the hurricane, when waters rose precipitously in a very short period of time - and hour to a half-hour. Frantic evacuation efforts began when the water started to rise, but they were unable to get everyone out in time. A harrowing account of this evacuation was published by USA Today.
Thanks for posting this:
'They won't listen'
"..Rodrigue last saw his mother the Wednesday before Hurricane Katrina. He brought her tissues and cold cream and sat on her bed in Room 406B to talk.
He visited her at the nursing home once or twice a week. She preferred that he, instead of the staff, wash her clothes. He clipped her nails.
"When my dad passed away he made me make a promise I'd take care of my mother. And I lived up to that promise for almost 30 years."
After the last visit, Rodrigue left town on business but was called back for an urgent 6 a.m. meeting the Saturday before the hurricane. Katrina was tracking toward New Orleans.
Rodrigue, unable to leave his post at the emergency command center, broke away from his intense activities to call the nursing home, which is 35 miles away on the other side of New Orleans in St. Bernard Parish.
Here's how he recalls that first call.
Rodrigue: "When are y'all leaving?"
Staffer: "We're not going to evacuate."
Rodrigue: "You realize this could be a Category 5 hurricane?"
Staffer: "We've got a generator."
Rodrigue immediately called his counterpart, the emergency coordinator for St. Bernard Parish.
"I said, 'Larry, what's going on with St. Bernard?'
"He said, 'Don't worry. St. Bernard is going to call for a mandatory evacuation. They're going to have to leave.' "
Sunday was more hectic for Rodrigue at the emergency operations center, but he called the nursing home about 5:30 p.m. to be sure it evacuated.
"Some fella answered and I said, 'You mean to tell me you are still there?'
"He says, 'We were going to evacuate, but we decided if we did half the people are going to die.'
"I said, 'Do you understand how idiotic that statement is? You telling me the other half are going to die because you think half are going to die?' "
So Rodrigue called his counterpart in St. Bernard Parish again.
"I said, 'You realize St. Rita's has not evacuated.'
"He said, 'I told them to leave and they won't listen to me.'
"I said, 'Send the sheriff to make them leave.'
"He said, 'Man, nobody listens to me.'
"The last word he said to me was, 'Sue the -- out of them.' I just sat here with a hopeless feeling."
Rodrigue heard nothing about his mother and the nursing home until four days after Katrina, when his son found the names of those evacuated from St. Rita's listed on the Internet. Her name wasn't on it. .."
This, and all other accounts of Rodrigue's contacts with and about his mom, are at odds with what Broussard said on Meet the Press and FEMA had nothing to do with what happened to her.
MSM is not picking the Broussard angle up and I don't think they will, but what the disclosures have done is prevent exploiters of Broussard's lies to bring Broussard forward now as much as they would have. I expect they will wait a while. Expect to see Broussard at a Senate hearing.
The ORIGINAL Discussion from that day (with streaming video of it)
I'm Glad Drudge put up what he did, although the MSNBC piece is spin loaded, it should raise skepicism in all but the most gullible readers.
Also, the Chicago Tribune mentions the MSNBC piece that show the incident did not happen as Broussard described.
Rebroadcast of Meet the Press Coming up on MSNBC, 9:00 PM EST.
Correction 10:00 pm EST.