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Delta Air Lines Files Bankruptcy petition in New York

Posted on 09/14/2005 1:48:24 PM PDT by ElRushbo

War in Iraq the reason for high oil prices--- it's all Bush's fault!!!!

Guarantee Bush will be somehow blamed


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1 posted on 09/14/2005 1:48:32 PM PDT by ElRushbo
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To: Pukin Dog

you OK?


2 posted on 09/14/2005 1:50:07 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ElRushbo

They did it huh?


3 posted on 09/14/2005 1:51:12 PM PDT by Michael Goldsberry (an enemy of islam -- Joe Boucher; Leapfrog; Dr.Zoidberg; Lazamataz; ...)
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To: ElRushbo
Hey! Let me empty my savings and try to help this company.

Nah... I'll just wait till the taxman rapes me.

4 posted on 09/14/2005 1:51:29 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: ElRushbo

Any idea on how this effects tickets purchased with a credit card but not used?


5 posted on 09/14/2005 1:58:31 PM PDT by elfman2 (2 tacos short of a combination plate)
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To: ElRushbo
Guaranteed wages for a comfortable lifestyle by the unions for decades on end?
6 posted on 09/14/2005 2:04:30 PM PDT by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: elfman2
Here's Bubba explaining your situation:


7 posted on 09/14/2005 2:04:54 PM PDT by SquirrelKing
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To: elfman2

I suppose its nuts to think my FF miles will survive this????


8 posted on 09/14/2005 2:10:49 PM PDT by corkoman (Overhyped)
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And the mad rush to throw pension costs on taxpayers accelerates.


9 posted on 09/14/2005 2:13:39 PM PDT by vollmond (Careful with that axe, Eugene!)
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To: ArrogantBustard

I am better than OK, my friend.

Next week, I will be fishing in Alaska.


10 posted on 09/14/2005 2:18:08 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache-Helping to keep Liberals free to be stupid since 1977)
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To: corkoman

They will all be wiped out...


11 posted on 09/14/2005 2:19:19 PM PDT by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to pass on her gene pool....any volunteers?)
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To: Pukin Dog
Good luck with the salmon! That's a trip I would love to take, some day.

As a total aside, if you decide to bag the big "D" and work for United, you might have me as a passenger ...

12 posted on 09/14/2005 2:24:38 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

http://online.wsj.com/article/0,,SB112671083630940483,00.html?mod=home_whats_news_us

ATLANTA -- Delta Air Lines filed for bankruptcy-court protection today, capping a slow, nearly four-year long financial dive brought on by the crushing weight of high fuel prices, a heavy debt load and a restructuring plan that began too late to save the carrier.

The Atlanta carrier filed for protection in U.S. Bankruptcy Court in New York's Southern District. Delta joins rivals UAL Corp.'s United Airlines, which has operated in bankruptcy for nearly three years, and US Airways Group Inc., which is on its second trip into Chapter 11. Another troubled carrier, Northwest Airlines, which suffered a strike by its mechanics in August, is expected to seek bankruptcy protection as soon as today.

The bankruptcy filing by Delta sets into motion what is likely to be at least months of negotiations with bond holders and other creditors over how to restructure the airline. Delta executives believe that because Delta has already spent the past year implementing a turnaround plan, it could avoid a prolonged fight with its creditors over the company's fate.

Still up in the air is what happens to Delta's employee pensions, which are underfunded by $5.3 billion. Delta and Northwest have lobbied for proposed pension legislation now working its way through Congress. The proposed legislation would give the companies more time -- 14 years under the current version of the U.S. Senate bill -- to catch up with their required payments. However, in bankruptcy, the company's creditors could push for the company to terminate its obligations and dump them onto the federal Pension Benefit Guaranty Corp., following in the footsteps of United and U.S. Airways. Delta executives previously have said that if they win passage of the pension bill the company can continue to honor its pension obligations, even in bankruptcy.

With Delta, United and US Airways in bankruptcy, nearly half of the industry's seats are operating under Chapter 11, which in some ways adds to the pressure facing carriers still trying to compete outside of court protection. With bankruptcy, carriers can drastically cut costs, potentially putting rivals at a disadvantage.

The threat of a Delta bankruptcy filing had grown more dire as Katrina disrupted flights to the Gulf Coast and crippled oil refineries, sending jet-fuel prices soaring.


13 posted on 09/14/2005 2:26:04 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: ArrogantBustard
You can keep United, its JetBlue for me, baby!
I got a great deal on the Alaska trip, 10 days for $8Gs, including airfair guides boats and lodging.
14 posted on 09/14/2005 2:26:25 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache-Helping to keep Liberals free to be stupid since 1977)
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To: vollmond

Not good at starting a new thread so maybe this will start one.

Understand Boeing is on strike, no media coverage that I can find.

Many sub-contractors are being affected.

Wonder what the general public might feel and think about this and many who might be out of work.


15 posted on 09/14/2005 2:27:53 PM PDT by mulligan
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To: BurbankKarl
Funny they are reporting that our pensions are "up in the air", when in reality they have splatted on the ground and are dead and gone.
16 posted on 09/14/2005 2:28:08 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache-Helping to keep Liberals free to be stupid since 1977)
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To: Pukin Dog
You can keep United
I am somewhat at the mercy (hah) of my corporate travel agent.

10 days for $8Gs, including airfair guides boats and lodging.
Good deal! I occasionally work with a fellow who used to be a bush pilot up there, flew DH Beavers (with floats, no less).

17 posted on 09/14/2005 2:32:08 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Pukin Dog

Funny they are reporting that our pensions are "up in the air", when in reality they have splatted on the ground and are dead and gone.

Nothing? Even those who are already getting a pension? They'll get nothing?

18 posted on 09/14/2005 2:34:05 PM PDT by GOPJ
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To: corkoman; ken5050; SquirrelKing
This has is part of This is reported as Delta’s statement in the San Jose Mercury News:
"Passengers were not expected to see any immediate effects from the filing, Delta said. It also promised to honor all tickets and sent a letter to frequent-flier customers seeking to reassure them.

"We are operating our full schedule of flights, honoring tickets and reservations as usual, and making normal refunds and exchanges," Gerald Grinstein, chief executive of Delta, said in the letter."

Their partners may also be bound to take your skymiles if Delta actually folds later. If not, I'd cash out.
19 posted on 09/14/2005 2:35:22 PM PDT by elfman2 (2 tacos short of a combination plate)
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To: GOPJ
No, no. I'm talking about us low-seniority losers.
20 posted on 09/14/2005 2:36:04 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache-Helping to keep Liberals free to be stupid since 1977)
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To: Pukin Dog
No, no. I'm talking about us low-seniority losers.

Whoa, sorry 'bout that...I hope Delta can pull themselves out.

21 posted on 09/14/2005 2:44:11 PM PDT by GOPJ
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To: Pukin Dog

DELTA AIR LINES was on the brink of filing for bankruptcy protection last night as an exodus of pilots demanding to cash-in their retirement accounts for a lump sum payment put further strain on the carrier’s finances.

More than 360 pilots have retired from Delta in the past two months, The Times has learnt, with each entitled to as much as 50 per cent of their defined benefit pension as a lump sum. Almost 650 pilots have retired this year, with a further 500 or 600 expected to quit in the next three months.


22 posted on 09/14/2005 3:04:56 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: corkoman
I suppose its nuts to think my FF miles will survive this????

I saw a thread on FR the other day that speculated that Delta was going to file bankruptcy in 48 hours. I immediately took 300,000 miles and booked a first-class round trip vacation to Hawaii. I did NOT want to take a chance, as FF miles are NOT a legal obligation. At the least, look for them to drastically raise the # of miles required for a ticket.

23 posted on 09/14/2005 3:19:22 PM PDT by ImaGraftedBranch (God is my Fulcrum; prayer is my lever -- Saint Therese of Lisieux)
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To: Pukin Dog

How far are you from retirement?


24 posted on 09/14/2005 3:21:22 PM PDT by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (Undocumented border patrol agent.)
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To: getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL

Quite far. But I'm going to Jet Blue.


25 posted on 09/14/2005 3:44:22 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache-Helping to keep Liberals free to be stupid since 1977)
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To: BurbankKarl
500 or 600 expected to quit in the next three months.

Make that 501 or 601.

26 posted on 09/14/2005 3:45:35 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache-Helping to keep Liberals free to be stupid since 1977)
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To: Pukin Dog

You're a pilot?


27 posted on 09/14/2005 3:48:36 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: Pukin Dog

Dog,

Much Luck!


28 posted on 09/14/2005 3:50:48 PM PDT by sargunner
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To: BurbankKarl
You're a pilot?

I give up. lol. Yes. You've apparently missed my jokes about being able to FReep until Delta can find gas money?

29 posted on 09/14/2005 3:52:00 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache-Helping to keep Liberals free to be stupid since 1977)
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To: sargunner

TKS


30 posted on 09/14/2005 3:52:39 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache-Helping to keep Liberals free to be stupid since 1977)
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To: Pukin Dog

Are you furloughed? I didn't get the impression that you were.

How are you going to slide on over? Have you interviewed? Maybe these questions are too personal? My apologies if they are.


31 posted on 09/14/2005 4:17:18 PM PDT by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (Undocumented border patrol agent.)
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To: Pukin Dog

You talk like a piloting job with JetBlue is a done deal. If it is, congrats.


32 posted on 09/14/2005 4:19:52 PM PDT by Terpfen (http://www.pattonhq.com/unknowntext.html)
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To: getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL
I've interviewed with JetBlue. I am not furloughed, just fed up. I like you folks, but I would rather be making money.
33 posted on 09/14/2005 5:15:17 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache-Helping to keep Liberals free to be stupid since 1977)
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