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Chicago Train Derailment (Update: 1 death reported)
Fox News story ^

Posted on 09/17/2005 8:15:39 AM PDT by George from New England

Just heard the headline at 11 AM Eastern Time

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: accident; bushsfault; chicago; rail; train
Just heard the headline at 11 AM Eastern Time
1 posted on 09/17/2005 8:15:43 AM PDT by George from New England
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To: George from New England

Has anyone criticized Bush yet for not being on site to help coordinate the rescue effort with the local officials?


2 posted on 09/17/2005 8:16:52 AM PDT by putupjob
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To: putupjob

It was his fault the levees broke, so he's probably not kept up the maintenance of the train tracks as well. (end/sarcasm)


3 posted on 09/17/2005 8:19:10 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: George from New England

Dozens of emergency vehicles and a life-flight helicopter were at the scene of the derailment. It took place around 8:36 a.m. near 47th St. and Wentworth Avenues, police spokeswoman Laura Kubiak said.

http://www.belleville.com/mld/belleville/news/12672998.htm


4 posted on 09/17/2005 8:19:17 AM PDT by SE Mom (God Bless those who serve..)
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To: George from New England

Bush at it again!


5 posted on 09/17/2005 8:21:09 AM PDT by JOE6PAK (Make somebody happy. Mind your own business.)
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To: JOE6PAK

I guess Rove had explosives left over from the levee job to destroy the train tracks.


6 posted on 09/17/2005 8:23:28 AM PDT by DogBarkTree
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To: George from New England

http://cbs2chicago.com/topstories/local_story_260095930.html

>>(CBS) CHICAGO A helicopter landing zone has been set-up for emergency medical airlifts after a major Metra train derailment this morning at 8:36 near 46th and LaSalle by the Dan Ryan Expressway. Reports indicate that part of the 47th Street viaduct collapsed.<<


7 posted on 09/17/2005 8:41:10 AM PDT by KylaStarr
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To: George from New England

Damn you, George Bush!


8 posted on 09/17/2005 8:43:07 AM PDT by Sloth (We cannot defeat foreign enemies of the Constitution if we yield to the domestic ones.)
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To: Sloth

Will they get free homes, too?


9 posted on 09/17/2005 8:51:29 AM PDT by mabelkitty (Lurk forever, but once you post, your newbness shines like a new pair of shoes.)
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To: George from New England
From WPXI.com

1 Death Reported In Chicago Train Derailment

Some Passengers Taken Away In Stretchers

POSTED: 11:29 am EDT September 17, 2005
UPDATED: 11:58 am EDT September 17, 2005

At least one person is reported dead and a half-dozen injured in a commuter train derailment Saturday morning on Chicago's South Side.

At least 20 ambulances, 12 fire trucks, and about 10 police squad cars responded to the scene of the accident, which authorities said happened at 8:36 a.m.

The first two cars of train No. 504 could be seen sitting about a 100 feet away from the rest of the train, tilted off the track.

CNN confirmed the death through the Cook County Medical Examiner.

Early reports said at least six people were taken on stretchers to ambulances waiting on the tracks. Some passengers were being treated on the scene. No information was immediately available on which hospital the injured were being taken to.

Passengers could be seen sitting on the side of the train next to the tracks. Cement appeared to have crumbled off the bridge at 47th and Federal Streets, where the train was stopped. Streets in the area were blocked in both directions.

Police officials are scheduled to speak with news media within the hour, according to a police lieutenant on the scene.

No further details were immediately available.


10 posted on 09/17/2005 9:02:27 AM PDT by cgk (When the BIG ONE wipes out Hollywood can we call it Bush's Fault instead of the San Andreas Fault?)
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To: George from New England

The Fox News alert I heard had 75 injured, but news stories I am reading say 6 injured... it may just be that 6 were taken away on stretchers?


11 posted on 09/17/2005 9:04:42 AM PDT by cgk (When the BIG ONE wipes out Hollywood can we call it Bush's Fault instead of the San Andreas Fault?)
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To: cgk
How do you get an ambulance on a track?

Praying for them.

12 posted on 09/17/2005 9:13:59 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: George from New England


13 posted on 09/17/2005 9:15:16 AM PDT by cgk (When the BIG ONE wipes out Hollywood can we call it Bush's Fault instead of the San Andreas Fault?)
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To: putupjob
Here we go again.  Get ready for the Bush-Bashing to begin.
14 posted on 09/17/2005 9:17:54 AM PDT by softwarecreator (Facts are to liberals as holy water is to vampires.)
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To: George from New England
From: Chicago's NBC5.com

At Least 1 Dead, Dozens Injured In Metra Derailment

Some Passengers Taken Away In Stretchers

POSTED: 9:14 am CDT September 17, 2005
UPDATED: 11:11 am CDT September 17, 2005

The Cook County medical examiner's office says at least one person is dead after a Metra train derailment on the city's South Side.

Fire department spokesman Larry Langford says dozens of people were injured, some critically. He says the city is asking for assistance from suburban emergency response teams.

The first two cars of train No. 504 could be seen sitting about a 100 feet away from the rest of the train.

They were tilted off the track.

At least 20 ambulances, 12 fire trucks, and about 10 police squad cars were on the scene at about 9:15 a.m.

Some passengers were being treated on the scene. No information was immediately available on which hospital the injured were being taken to.

Passengers could be seen sitting on the side of the train next to the tracks.

Stephanie Smith, who was sitting in the second car in the upper tier, said she heard brakes screeching, then the train came to a halt.

"I just went flying into the safety seat bar and fell to the ground," said Smith, a master's student at DePaul University, told the newspaper. "We were skidding out of control. Weaving back and forth. People were weeping and screaming."

Cement appeared to have crumbled off the bridge at 47th and Federal Streets, where the train was stopped.

Firefighters were raising ladders to the elevated track. There was a 30-foot gap between two rail cars, and several broken windows.

15 posted on 09/17/2005 9:18:18 AM PDT by cgk (When the BIG ONE wipes out Hollywood can we call it Bush's Fault instead of the San Andreas Fault?)
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To: CindyDawg

I wondered that also - now Updates say firefighters are raising ladders to the tracks - to bring the injured down.


16 posted on 09/17/2005 9:20:17 AM PDT by cgk (When the BIG ONE wipes out Hollywood can we call it Bush's Fault instead of the San Andreas Fault?)
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To: sneakers

bump


17 posted on 09/17/2005 9:22:49 AM PDT by sneakers
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To: George from New England

I've ridden Heritage Corridor Metra trains to Joliet. Bumpy, swaying ride (to the point that it was difficult to read the paper). I always wondered.


18 posted on 09/17/2005 9:25:22 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
More pics from NBC5.com:


19 posted on 09/17/2005 9:29:54 AM PDT by cgk (When the BIG ONE wipes out Hollywood can we call it Bush's Fault instead of the San Andreas Fault?)
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To: cgk

I was wondering out in the middle of no-where if they had one set up to drive the tracks like the train trucks.


20 posted on 09/17/2005 9:31:00 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: cgk

I wish I could identify the area. The press is saying 47th and the Dan Ryan Expy., but I don't remember if my train would travel that part of track. To further confuse things, there are two different Metra lines that run to Joliet.


21 posted on 09/17/2005 9:32:10 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: putupjob

They will probably criticize him for not having inspected the rails.


22 posted on 09/17/2005 9:32:22 AM PDT by Rennes Templar ("The future ain't what it used to be".........Yogi Berra)
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To: George from New England

bush's war on trains begins...


23 posted on 09/17/2005 9:34:47 AM PDT by isom35
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To: putupjob

Where's FEMA? Where's the ice, water and food, people are starving..


24 posted on 09/17/2005 9:34:59 AM PDT by navysealdad
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To: isom35

It is the Rock Island line that runs through the south side of Chicago, Blue Island, Midlothian, Oak Forest, Tinley Park, Mokena, then on to Joliet.


25 posted on 09/17/2005 9:39:38 AM PDT by tgbluesky
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To: Rennes Templar

Of course only blacks were in the two front cars, right? /s


26 posted on 09/17/2005 9:51:36 AM PDT by fanfan (" The liberal party is not corrupt " Prime Minister Paul Martin)
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To: tgbluesky

I hear that the Rock Island Line is a mighty good road.


27 posted on 09/17/2005 10:07:05 AM PDT by Conan the Librarian (The Best in Life is to crush my enemies, see them driven before me, and the Dewey Decimal System)
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To: cgk
That looks like a commuter train. I take one just like it in Maryland (MARC). Very scary!

Prayers for those people...

28 posted on 09/17/2005 10:13:33 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Many Democrats are not weak Americans. But nearly all weak Americans are Democrats.)
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To: George from New England

Upon hearing of the Chicago train derailment, New Orleans mayor Nagin was seen running in circles, shouting "Mayors and children first!" Louisiana governor Blanco said she would get back to us on a statement sometime tomorrow, or the day after that...


29 posted on 09/17/2005 10:16:19 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Many Democrats are not weak Americans. But nearly all weak Americans are Democrats.)
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To: COBOL2Java

and Landrieu would slap Bush!


30 posted on 09/17/2005 10:20:59 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Loon Landrieu & Co good name for a flood control business...Motto:"We got dikes!")
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To: George from New England

It's been expressed in many different forms, but the media bias makes it all seem plausible: The train derailment is Bush's fault, because he should have never been President but instead a train engineer so that he could have prevented this accident. Now when anything goes wrong, just blame Bush-it removes all personal responsibility and makes you feel much better-if you're a liberal.


31 posted on 09/17/2005 10:34:05 AM PDT by Blowtorch
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Would that be the route with the train that hit Harrison Ford's prison bus , in the Fugitive?


32 posted on 09/17/2005 11:20:54 AM PDT by syriacus (To stay in power, Democrats need a MSM willing to lie about people + events + the constitution)
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To: Blowtorch

If Ronald Reagan hadn't laid off the air traffic controllers, none of this would have happened.


33 posted on 09/17/2005 11:22:14 AM PDT by syriacus (To stay in power, Democrats need a MSM willing to lie about people + events + the constitution)
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To: putupjob

"Has anyone criticized Bush yet for not being on site to help coordinate the rescue effort with the local officials?"

Hey...I live in Chicago. Any word on how I can get a $2000 debit card and a week or two on a cruise ship in Lake Michigan?


34 posted on 09/17/2005 11:24:48 AM PDT by toddlintown (Your papers please.)
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To: George from New England

The hard part will be stopping the locals from climbing up on the tracks and pretending that they have whiplash.

Typically, a CTA bus with only 3 on board and involved in an accident will usually have 20 or so "victims" being carried off the bus before it's all over.


35 posted on 09/17/2005 11:27:49 AM PDT by toddlintown (Your papers please.)
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To: George from New England

I hope there were no sailors on that metra train. Great Lakes Naval Training Facility is up there. My son just graduated from his Navy A-school at the end of July. He'd take the Metra into Chicago almost every weekend with his buddies. A lot of sailors took the metra into Chicago.

Praying for the safety of all on that train.

sneakers


36 posted on 09/17/2005 1:12:55 PM PDT by sneakers
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To: sneakers

Great Lakes is north of the city on a different line. This is a south side line.


37 posted on 09/17/2005 2:09:21 PM PDT by Starrgaizr
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To: Starrgaizr

Thanks. I don't know the lay of the land there very well!

sneakers


38 posted on 09/17/2005 7:34:21 PM PDT by sneakers
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To: SE Mom
It took place around 8:36 a.m. near 47th St. and Wentworth Avenues, police spokeswoman Laura Kubiak said.

Any reports of looting?

39 posted on 09/17/2005 10:35:27 PM PDT by BureaucratusMaximus (Watching cradle-to-grave liberalism shred itself to pieces in the calming breeze of reality)
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To: sneakers

Great Lakes Naval is way north - in the far northern suburbs - compared to where this was (south side of Chicago).


40 posted on 09/17/2005 11:37:18 PM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: sneakers
Metra Rail - Chicago

The people stationed at Great Lakes Naval would take the UP-N Line.

This derailment was on the line headed south out of Chicago - the far eastern one shown in blue then purple going out of the city near the 47th st. stop.

41 posted on 09/17/2005 11:40:26 PM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: George from New England
Agency Blames Speed for Train Derailment
By MIKE COLIAS,
Associated Press Writer

12 minutes ago

A commuter train was going almost 60 mph above the speed limit just before it derailed, killing two people and injuring dozens of others, the acting chairman of the National Transportation Safety Board said Sunday.

Mark Rosenker said the Metra train was traveling at 69 mph and should not have been going faster than 10 mph when it switched tracks at a crossover just before jumping the tracks Saturday.

"Sixty-nine miles an hour is very, very fast when you're dealing with a 10-mile-an-hour restriction," Rosenker said.

The speed information came from a preliminary reading of one of the train's three electronic data recorders, popularly known as "black boxes," Rosenker said.

Investigators conducted a three-hour interview Sunday with the train's engineer. The 41-year-old man had been on the job for 45 days after completing Metra's six-month training program, which included at least some training along the route where the derailment occurred. He also had worked for more than five years as a CSX Corp. freight train engineer.

The double-decker commuter train was headed into Chicago from Joliet on Saturday morning with 185 passengers and four crew members when its locomotive and five rail cars jumped the tracks about 5 miles south of downtown.

The train began to derail as it switched tracks, striking a steel bridge just beyond the crossover. Rosenker said that collision damaged at least one rail car and likely contributed to at least one of the fatalities.

The train and the track had just been inspected Friday, said Judy Pardonnet, a spokeswoman for Metra, the commuter rail system that services the Chicago area.

Transportation officials also determined Sunday that train signals were working, meaning the engineer should have known he was approaching a crossover and should have had time to slow the train upon seeing the signals, even if he was traveling 69 mph, Rosenker said.

Extensive damage to the train's undercarriage has prevented investigators from examining its brakes, but it appears the brakes engaged as the train was switching tracks. It was unclear if the engineer applied the brakes or if they engaged automatically, Rosenker said.

The train engineer, three crew members and dispatchers were all tested for drugs and alcohol, which is standard procedure, Pardonnet said.

On Monday, the NTSB planned to examine radio transmissions from a control tower and interview a dispatcher and trainee who were working in the tower at the time of the accident.

The train's engineer is taking three days of paid leave for "trauma debriefing." Pardonnet said no decisions have been made about his future employment, although findings from the NTSB investigation could determine whether he keeps his job.

A similar derailment occurred on the same stretch of track in 2003, injuring about 45 people. A preliminary NTSB report found that the train was going almost 70 mph at the location where it was supposed to switch from one track to the other.

Pardonnet said the two derailments may have been just a coincidence. "I don't think it's anything specific to this area, but it's still under investigation," she said.

Jane Cuthbert, 22, of Bourbonnais, died on the train, Pardonnet said. A 30-year-old woman died at a hospital.

They were the first people killed in a Metra derailment since it took over commuter rail services in the region in 1984.

The injured passengers were taken to 15 hospitals, and 15 of them remained hospitalized Sunday, Pardonnet said. She did not have information on their conditions.

Train service on the Rock Island District Line resumed about four hours after the derailment, and the cleanup from the accident could cause short delays during Monday's commute, Pardonnet said.

42 posted on 09/18/2005 8:34:00 PM PDT by gg188
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