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Hurricane Rita Live Thread, Part VI
NHC - NOAA ^ | 23 September 2005 | NHC - NOAA

Posted on 09/23/2005 9:39:06 AM PDT by NautiNurse

Dangerous Hurricane Rita is expected to make landfall in the northeast Gulf of Mexico within 24 hours. Tornados have spawned in Louisiana. Water is filling the Ninth Ward of New Orleans again. A bus carrying elderly evacuees was gutted by fire this morning outside Dallas, with multiple fatalities. Television crews have positioned their hurricane reporters throughout the region to attain maximum drama effects. Whoooooa.

The following links are self-updating:

Public Advisory Currently published every 3 hours 5A, 8A, 11A, 2P, etc. ET
NHC Discussion Published every six hours 6A, 11A, 6P, 11P
Three Day Forecast Track
Five Day Forecast Track

Rita Forecast Track Archive
Forecast Models
Buoy Data Western Gulf of Mexico
Houston/Galveston/Beaumont/Lake Charles Wx Watches/Warnings
Jefferson Co TX NWS Weather
Current Weather Warnings and Watches for Texas
Current Weather Warnings and Watches for Louisiana
Hi Res Houston Flood Zone Map Slow load, great detail

Images:


Lake Charles Long Range Radar Still image, with loop link
Houston/Galveston Long Range Radar Still image, with loop link
Lake Charles Experimental Radar Outages and Delays May Occur

Storm Floater IR Loop
GOM WV Loop
GOM IR Still Image
Visible Storm Floater Still (only visible during daylight hours)
Color Enhanced Atlantic Loop

Streaming Video: (coverage may be intermittent)

KHOU-TV/DT Houston
KPRC-TV/DT Houston
KTRK-TV/DT Houston
KTRH-AM Houston
KPLC-TV/DT Lake Charles/Lafayette
KSLA-TV/DT Shreveport

Additional Resources:

FReeper Sign In Thread Check in to let us know whether you are staying, going, and when you get there
FReepers Offering Lodging To Rita Evacuees People and/or Pet Friendly FReepers Offering Shelter

KHOU Houston
KTRK ABC News Houston
KPLC Lake Charles Evac Routes, news
KFDM Beaumont/Port Arthur News, evac info
Hurricane City
Wxnation Houston
Galveston Webcams
Golden Triangle Weather Page Provides Galveston Weather, Warnings, Radar, etc.

Category Wind Speed Barometric Pressure Storm Surge Damage Potential
Tropical
Depression
< 39 mph
< 34 kts
    Minimal
Tropical
Storm
39 - 73 mph
34 - 63 kts
    Minimal
Hurricane 1
(Weak)
74 - 95 mph
64 - 82 kts
28.94" or more
980.02 mb or more
4.0' - 5.0'
1.2 m - 1.5 m
Minimal damage to vegetation
Hurricane 2
(Moderate)
96 - 110 mph
83 - 95 kts
28.50" - 28.93"
965.12 mb - 979.68 mb
6.0' - 8.0'
1.8 m - 2.4 m
Moderate damage to houses
Hurricane 3
(Strong)
111 - 130 mph
96 - 112 kts
27.91" - 28.49"
945.14 mb - 964.78 mb
9.0' - 12.0'
2.7 m - 3.7 m
Extensive damage to small buildings
Hurricane 4
(Very strong)
131 - 155 mph
113 - 135 kts
27.17" - 27.90"
920.08 mb - 944.80 mb
13.0' - 18.0'
3.9 m - 5.5 m
Extreme structural damage
Hurricane 5
(Devastating)
Greater than 155 mph
Greater than 135 kts
Less than 27.17"
Less than 920.08 mb
Greater than 18.0'
Greater than 5.5m
Catastrophic building failures possible

Previous Threads:
Hurricane Rita Live Thread, Part V
Hurricane Rita Live Thread, Part IV
Hurricane Rita Live Thread, Part III
Hurricane Rita Live Thread, Part II
Hurricane Rita Live Thread, Part I
Tropical Storm Rita
Tropical Depression 18


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KEYWORDS: hurricane; rita; tropical
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To: steveegg

Way to herd them "cattle" cowboys.


251 posted on 09/23/2005 10:28:32 AM PDT by ekwd (Murphy's Law Has Not Been Repealed)
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To: HoustonCurmudgeon
So is Houston safer now?

I've got my "undocumented shopper monitor" badge all shined up.

252 posted on 09/23/2005 10:28:55 AM PDT by humblegunner (If you're gonna die, die with your boots on.)
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To: ClearBlueSky

Might find a sharpie in the mailbox today....

Someone really needs to tell Rush. I don't know him. LOL.


253 posted on 09/23/2005 10:29:22 AM PDT by freema (Ready to Rock AND Roll)
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To: Rumierules
Where is Steve Herrigan?

According to Steve Harrigan's blog, Amman, Jordan, on his way back to Iraq.
254 posted on 09/23/2005 10:29:24 AM PDT by conservative in nyc
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To: steveegg

We need somebody to start a dedicated thread. Not it!


255 posted on 09/23/2005 10:29:42 AM PDT by ARealMothersSonForever (The Land o' Gar (yes I have a gunrack in my truck))
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To: green iguana

Rita's closing her eye because she thinks if she can't see you, then you can't see her.


256 posted on 09/23/2005 10:29:45 AM PDT by nhoward14
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Does anyone else see the eye practically disappearing on the IR images? :)


257 posted on 09/23/2005 10:29:45 AM PDT by No Blue States (FW)
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To: ClearBlueSky

You are back! Great to see you again!


258 posted on 09/23/2005 10:29:48 AM PDT by NautiNurse (The task before us is enormous, but so is the heart of America.)
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To: RedBloodedAmerican

wow.. that is a lot of rain! how are you FRiend? long time . You are in fla right?


259 posted on 09/23/2005 10:30:09 AM PDT by DollyCali (Don't tell GOD how big your storm is -- Tell the storm how B-I-G your s God is!)
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To: No Blue States

How in the world can all the forecasters be so wrong? Supposedly a catastrophic storm! Millions evacuated! If this thing fizzles, who in their right mind would ever listen to the "hurricane" experts again? I guess better safe than sorry, but what a mess.


260 posted on 09/23/2005 10:30:18 AM PDT by Jrabbit (Kaufman County, Texas)
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To: LikeLight
Rita is going almost due north and is falling apart structurally

Wow.

261 posted on 09/23/2005 10:30:50 AM PDT by txhurl
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To: Revel

Baghad Ray
http://www.exedor.net/pics/baghdadnagin.jpg


262 posted on 09/23/2005 10:30:54 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: NautiNurse

latest Rita news ping


263 posted on 09/23/2005 10:31:02 AM PDT by i_dont_chat (Our President's intervention saved lives during Katrina.)
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To: freema

Honore as press secretary. I like it! That White House press corps needs a good disciplinarian. They're terrible!


264 posted on 09/23/2005 10:31:10 AM PDT by Patriot from Philly
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To: 2harddrive
"...a new invention was used - Silent Dynamite!!!"

Manufactured by Hush-a-Boom, Ltd. (a subsidiary of Halliburton, Inc.)

265 posted on 09/23/2005 10:31:13 AM PDT by Charles Martel
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To: Moose4

The Frat humor is appreciated and yes, she is hot!


266 posted on 09/23/2005 10:31:20 AM PDT by Raleigh Conservative (Cure Stupidity - vote for a Conservative!)
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To: AlleyCat48

Nice to have you with us. After the storm is gone, stick around & visit the threads (we do a "little bit" more here than weather coverage!)


267 posted on 09/23/2005 10:31:26 AM PDT by DollyCali (Don't tell GOD how big your storm is -- Tell the storm how B-I-G your s God is!)
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To: No Blue States

the nws radar last frame seems to show the eye not perfectly round anymore...
http://www.srh.noaa.gov/ridge/lix_N0Z_lp.shtml


268 posted on 09/23/2005 10:32:09 AM PDT by abb (Because News Reporting is too important to be left to the Journalists.)
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To: Jrabbit
How in the world can all the forecasters be so wrong?

Puh-leeze.

Floyd "fizzled" to a Cat 2 at landfall.

Still caused 4.6 billion in damage and killed 56 people.

Rita will still cause major storm surge along the coast and the inland flooding could well be worse than what we saw with Floyd.

And if Rita had remained a strong Cat 4, it would have killed just about anyone remaining along the coast.

269 posted on 09/23/2005 10:32:22 AM PDT by dirtboy (Drool overflowed my buffer...)
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To: No Blue States

It LOOKS like her eye is closed. But I dont see it moving due north like somebody else said.


270 posted on 09/23/2005 10:32:35 AM PDT by Lemondropkid31 (Conroe, TX)
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To: pbrown

The Walmart on 75 in North Dallas is selling out of two things - drinking water and shotgun shells.


Local Krogers are selling water as fast as they can restock it.


271 posted on 09/23/2005 10:33:04 AM PDT by Spktyr (Dallas TX (Overwhelminglysuperiorfirepowerandthewillingnesstouseitistheonlyprovenpeacesolution))
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
" so far, approx. 4" in my guage.."

I was skimming the thread..thought it read so far 4' in my garage...Whew!!!!

272 posted on 09/23/2005 10:33:29 AM PDT by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to pass on her gene pool....any volunteers?)
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To: Jrabbit

I think the NHC has been saying for a few days that Rita may be downgraded to a Category 3 before landfall.


273 posted on 09/23/2005 10:33:36 AM PDT by EnquiringMind
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To: txflake

The due north I think may be a wobble, counting on what I saw last on satellite loop, but it seems to be sucking in a lot of dry air...but at the same time, the se is doing beautiful...she's going to carry a lot of umph still when she goes in.


274 posted on 09/23/2005 10:33:41 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Jrabbit

36hrs ago she was a CAT5 with 175MPH winds and no apparent shear headed for the Central Texas coast. She was Katrina part 2 in every sense of the word. She had pressure reading down near Gilbert range. Hurricanes aren't an exact science by any measure.


275 posted on 09/23/2005 10:33:46 AM PDT by james_f_hall (Round Rock, Texas)
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To: libsl

Go to www.weather.com and type in the city you want.

Just below it is an hour by hour forecast.

That should tell you what you need to know.


276 posted on 09/23/2005 10:33:46 AM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: Jrabbit

There were several folks on the earlier threads praying, and speculating that this thing would go up to LA and fizzle. Don't remember exactly who. You can bet yer sweet bippy they will re-appear if this hits LA at trop storm strenght or less!


277 posted on 09/23/2005 10:34:08 AM PDT by ARealMothersSonForever (The Land o' Gar (yes I have a gunrack in my truck))
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To: rit

That reporter was David Gregory of NBC per Rush Limbaugh who is playing it right now.


278 posted on 09/23/2005 10:34:31 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (If you still vote Democrat, you're still stuck on stupid!)
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To: No Blue States

We need to start chanting 'fall apart, fall apart'


279 posted on 09/23/2005 10:34:34 AM PDT by txhurl (Fall apart! Fall apart! Fall apart!)
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To: No Blue States

I'm looking at the radar link on post 14; to my totally untutored eye, it looks like half the hurricane is gone; south/southeast of the eye, I see nothing but blue (clear sky?). It lools like half a hurricane, not the huge round swirl we've been seeing for four days.


280 posted on 09/23/2005 10:34:45 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
Plus they claim to know a little about football.

Everybody knows you have to be from the South to understand football.

281 posted on 09/23/2005 10:34:45 AM PDT by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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To: Jrabbit

"How in the world can all the forecasters be so wrong? Supposedly a catastrophic storm! Millions evacuated! If this thing fizzles, who in their right mind would ever listen to the "hurricane" experts again? I guess better safe than sorry, but what a mess."

This was just a test. Rove invented Rita to see if Bush's home state could evacuate better than Blanco's.


282 posted on 09/23/2005 10:34:50 AM PDT by freema (Ready to Rock AND Roll)
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To: Jrabbit


"How in the world can all the forecasters be so wrong? "

Beats me, but even we can see the radars.
Im sure they do too and will alter their forecast some at this rate of weakening.
I dont know it its temporary but it looks good to me.


283 posted on 09/23/2005 10:35:11 AM PDT by No Blue States (FW)
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To: ekwd
Okay, I have seen some criticism of TX officials for waiting "too long" to begin it. From over here in North Alabama, it looks to me like they are a doing pretty good job

The proof will be in the results.

The issue isn't whether or not people were stuck in traffic for 14 hours. The bottom line is, at the end of the day, did they make it our of harm's way?

Everything else is just static and noise.

284 posted on 09/23/2005 10:35:22 AM PDT by tx_eggman (Home is I45 S, just south of Beltway 8 in Houston ... I'm outta here ...)
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To: EnquiringMind

gasoline down $0.10 and crude down $1.70 on the nymex..


285 posted on 09/23/2005 10:35:23 AM PDT by abb (Because News Reporting is too important to be left to the Journalists.)
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To: hummingbird
"My local radio just said stock trading is going up because Rita isn't going to cause as much damage as initially feared."


NO is flooded again. The refinery's that were running in the gulf have been shut down. Who knows how many Oil and gas riggs will be destroyed. At least some refinery's are going to be flooded/ re flooded. All those companies in the evacuated area are shut down. That is a lot of people out of work for the moment. some cities in Texas are predicted to flood. Gas is going to go up up up!.

All of this and the Dow is barely down.

I would say there is some serious manipulation going on.
286 posted on 09/23/2005 10:35:33 AM PDT by Revel
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To: Revel
You can't see it in the pictures posted here, but It really looked more obvious from some video they ran about an hour ago.
They really need to use concretee to build these levee's.

I watched the FoxNews live footage, but it was looking at the flow from the backside.

Here is a picture of the repair "pre-overtopping. The top look like something other than earthen - and if the entire repair is earthen, then it'll wash down to flush is a matter of a few hours. There is lots of water going over, and plenty of volume if Lake Pontchartrain to keep flowing for hours more.

287 posted on 09/23/2005 10:35:43 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Lemondropkid31

Trying to track that down. TxDOT still lists one-way only up near Dallas, but they do allow themselves an hour of error. They have lifted the one-way flow closer to Houston.


288 posted on 09/23/2005 10:35:51 AM PDT by steveegg ($3.00 a gallon is the price you pay for ANWR! Start drilling or stop whining! - HT Falcon4.0)
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To: Patriot from Philly

Doesn't it just make you smile to think about it?


289 posted on 09/23/2005 10:35:59 AM PDT by freema (Ready to Rock AND Roll)
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To: oldironsides

The same thing happened yesterday in Louisiana. The recorded message went to residents of Jefferson parish instead of Jefferson Davis parish.


290 posted on 09/23/2005 10:36:00 AM PDT by LA Woman3
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To: freema

Just so they can say "Bush overcompensated" because it's Texas.


291 posted on 09/23/2005 10:36:26 AM PDT by Jrabbit (Kaufman County, Texas)
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To: Lemondropkid31; All

look at this vortex:

URNT12 KNHC 231730Z
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE
A. 23/1700Z
B. 27 DEG 38 MIN N
92 DEG 08 MIN W
C. NA
D. NA
E. NA
F. 180 DEG 124 KT
G. 089 DEG 18 NM
H. 931 MB
I. 16 C/ 2200 M
J. 20 C/ 2653 M
K. 15 C/ NA
L. OPEN SE
M. C30
N. 12345/NA
O. 1/1 NM
P. NOAA2 WX18A RITA OB 05
MAX FL WIND 124 KT E QUAD 1654Z
FIX AT 8,700 FT PRESSURE ALTITUDE

pressure's up, 931, and flight winds are 124 knots...storm is not what it was yesterday...


292 posted on 09/23/2005 10:36:28 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Revel

They were expected the Houston refineries to be pummelled....it doesnt appear that way.


293 posted on 09/23/2005 10:36:37 AM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: Lanza

Saw your posts about the evacuation ordeal and your plans to stay in Pasadena. Most of Pasadena should be safer than Clear Lake (except of course the sliver on the lake and bay), and at a slightly higher elevation. Here are topo maps if you'd like to check, and earlier on this thread posted links to storm surge maps, just search my posting history. Zoom in and out using the sidebar. The lowest 2 levels have the actual height in feet above sea level.

http://terraserver-usa.com/image.aspx?T=2&S=14&Z=15&X=89&Y=1027&W=2&qs=%7cpasadena%7ctx%7c

Also at the actual start of this thread is a link to a detailed map of flood zones of all kinds in the Houston area, including Pasadena. Remember, a foot of flood water isn't as dangerous as pounding storm surge with wave action.

Good luck.


294 posted on 09/23/2005 10:36:52 AM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: ekwd

45 is clear all the way up. I-10 is clear, 290 is completely clear - AND HAS BEEN SINCE 4AM!


295 posted on 09/23/2005 10:36:53 AM PDT by Spktyr (Dallas TX (Overwhelminglysuperiorfirepowerandthewillingnesstouseitistheonlyprovenpeacesolution))
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To: ARealMothersSonForever
We need somebody to start a dedicated thread. Not it!

You suggest it, you do it :-)

296 posted on 09/23/2005 10:36:59 AM PDT by steveegg ($3.00 a gallon is the price you pay for ANWR! Start drilling or stop whining! - HT Falcon4.0)
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To: steveegg

I just hear on channel two that 45 is north AND south. Yay!


297 posted on 09/23/2005 10:37:04 AM PDT by Lemondropkid31 (Conroe, TX)
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To: txflake

Is the Cat3 forecast too high now?


298 posted on 09/23/2005 10:37:34 AM PDT by No Blue States (FW)
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To: DollyCali; AlleyCat48

A nice place to visit, but you'd really want to live here! lol


299 posted on 09/23/2005 10:38:25 AM PDT by freema (Ready to Rock AND Roll)
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To: fjsva

As disrespectful as this?

http://thepoliticalteen.net/2005/09/22/national-enquirer-says-bush/
September 22, 2005
National Enquirer Says Bush is Drinking
Faced with the biggest crisis of his political life, President Bush has hit the bottle again, The National Enquirer can reveal.

Bush, who said he quit drinking the morning after his 40th birthday, has started boozing amid the Katrina catastrophe.

Family sources have told how the 59-year-old president was caught by First Lady Laura downing a shot of booze at their family ranch in Crawford, Texas, when he learned of the hurricane disaster.

His worried wife yelled at him: “Stop, George.”


300 posted on 09/23/2005 10:38:40 AM PDT by RDTF
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