Archeologists make historic discovery (Tomb of Odysseus)

The Madera Tribune ^ | 8/27/05 | Thomas Elias

[FreedomPoster]

It just seemed like it belonged on the thread.

[ctdonath2]

Wrong Ithaca.

They're talking about the Ithaca of Greek adventure and legend.
You're referring to the whiny little college town in the boonies of central New York.

Big difference.

[Ciexyz]

Time for another viewing of Brad Pitt's film "Troy".

[Verginius Rufus]

The last two words of the Iliad are Hektoros hippodamoio, "Hector, tamer of horses." Apparently the Trojans were especially known for their skill with horses, which inspired the story which made their downfall the result of their being fooled by the Trojan horse.

Odysseus' long delay in getting home was because he had offended Poseidon. Of course, there are people today who doubt Poseidon's existence.

[solitas]

Thank God he's far-enough away in Egypt - if ZH had "discovered" Capone's vault he'd _still_ be vomiting-on about it and no closer to actually _opening_ it. At least (in THAT instance) GR kind of realized how stupid he was looking and dropped the matter.

[edwin hubble]

You thought the leaden winter would bring you down forever,
But you rode upon a steamer to the violence of the sun.
...

TALES OF BRAVE ULYSSES
by Eric Clapton and Martin Sharp

[Bernard Marx]

Now, where would we look for Medusa?

If you spot Old Crusty it's time to get out the blindfold.

[Darkchylde]

How interesting... Ping.

[Darkchylde]

Do we think alike or something? ;-)

[DarkSavant]

Now, where would we look for Medusa?

You mean Helen Thomas?

[19th LA Inf]

Kephalonia is the locale of the movie "Captain Corelli's Mandolin" and the book by Louis de Beirnes from which it was taken. I thought the movie fell short; it compressed the original story which spanned much of the lifetimes of the lovers. I'm very happy to know that "their" island was also the home of one of the alltime great literary heroes too.

[Tench_Coxe]

Wow.

[curmudgeonII]

This article hardly proves that this is the tomb of Ulysses.

[wildbill]

Makes sense that a successful kingdom would be on a larger island with adequate water supplies.

I'm a little surprised that the seat of the kingdom wouldn't have been somewhere inside on of the deep bays sohown on the map since the city/port would have been protected from storms.

[fqued]

The Odyssey - One of my all-time favorite stories.

I took Homeric Greek in high school a billion years ago. The poetry of thought is magnificent:

"When the early-born, the rosy-fingered Dawn appeared" started many sections and "They beat the sea white with their oars" likewise concluded many sections.

[Jimmy Valentine]

"They beat the sea white with their oars" likewise concluded many sections.

I may have to change my tagline

[Petruchio]

Medusa now uses the psudonym of Hillery!

[Wombat101]

Correct, but I'm not talking about the mystical origins of the Illiad and Odysee. I'm thinking that the story hides a lot of historical truth with metaphor and allusions to actions of the gods.

Odysseus would not have been a very welcome guest back in Greece, even if he did come up with the wining strategy -- his solution (trickery) would have run counter to the basic tenets of Greek warfare. The victory, although probably very welcome, would have been tainted because it was not gained through force of arms.

In that situation, it would be easy to see why Odysseus would have wandered for so long: he was persona non grata back in Greece. Exile as punishment was not unknown in the Greek world.

[fqued]

Odysseus would not have been a very welcome guest back in Greece, even if he did come up with the wining strategy -- his solution (trickery) would have run counter to the basic tenets of Greek warfare

I think I will have to disagree. In the very first lines of the Odessey, Odysseus is described as "polytropon" - many turning, generally translated as "resourceful". It is precisely this resourcefulness (trickery) that much is made of in the Odessey. I believe that the Big O was greatly esteemed precisely because of his "polytropon".

[Wombat101]

Well respected for his resourcefulness and insight, but Greek warfare disdained victory through trickery.

You will notice that unlike many other pantheons, Greek mythology lacks a god of deceit. This is because the Greeks themselves despised the idea of dishonesty.