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Scouts targeted in San Diego
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | September 25, 2005

Posted on 09/25/2005 11:02:20 AM PDT by Jacob Kell

A coalition of homosexual activists and atheists plan to march on a Boy Scout camp in San Diego next month demanding the organization open its membership and leadership to them.

The group Scouting For All plans to march and rally at a Boy Scout camp Oct. 9.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: aclu; atheists; boyscouts; bsa; culturewars; extremegays; gayscouts; girls; girlscouts; homosexualagenda; homosexuals; ianmckellan; molesters; pedophiles; perverts; radicalfags; radicalgays; rddbs; sandiego; scoutingforall; sodomites
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Haven't Scouting for All ever heard of the Girl Scouts?
1 posted on 09/25/2005 11:02:23 AM PDT by Jacob Kell
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To: Jacob Kell
Gays and liberals sure have a fascination with the Boy Scouts.

Gee, wonder why?

2 posted on 09/25/2005 11:06:40 AM PDT by Reactionary
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To: Jacob Kell

Homosexuals in the Scouts or priesthood need not apply.

Sorry Charlene! LOL


3 posted on 09/25/2005 11:06:46 AM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: Jacob Kell

Why doesn't this fine coalition start an organization of its own? Mayhaps parents would not send them their kids?


4 posted on 09/25/2005 11:07:09 AM PDT by KC_for_Freedom (Sailing the highways of America, and loving it.)
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To: Jacob Kell

"Support for the latest protest of the Scouts by the group comes from the American Civil Liberties Union and some homosexual activist organizations."

This isn't about getting girls into the Boy Scouts. That's just a throwaway to placate the dim-witted fems. This is about getting homosexuals into and God out of the Boy Scouts.


5 posted on 09/25/2005 11:07:33 AM PDT by hsalaw
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To: hsalaw

Over my dead body.


6 posted on 09/25/2005 11:09:50 AM PDT by CAWats (I don't have any confidence in my ability to fail - Kenneth Copeland)
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To: Jacob Kell

This is an absolute disgrace.


7 posted on 09/25/2005 11:10:26 AM PDT by Mears (The Killer Queen)
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To: Jacob Kell

Nothing enrages homosexuals so much as denying them access to your children.


8 posted on 09/25/2005 11:11:27 AM PDT by Mount Athos
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To: Jacob Kell

""A coalition of homosexual activists and atheists plan to march on a Boy Scout camp in San Diego next month""

corrected to properly read:

A coalition of homosexual activists and atheists plan to PREY on a Boy Scout camp in San Diego next month


9 posted on 09/25/2005 11:12:07 AM PDT by InsureAmerica (Evil? I have many words for it. We are as dust, to them. - v v putin)
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To: Jacob Kell

Sick.

Not to mention that they are infringing on the Scouts' constitutional rights.


10 posted on 09/25/2005 11:12:29 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Jacob Kell

They're circling like cats outside a fish market.


11 posted on 09/25/2005 11:12:39 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (I'm sick and tired of being sick and tired!)
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To: hsalaw

"plan to march on a Boy Scout camp...."


I would think that a Boy Scout camp is private property. I hope these guys bring their flack jackets. The lead may be pretty thick.


12 posted on 09/25/2005 11:14:14 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Jacob Kell
"A coalition of homosexual activists and atheists plan to march on a Boy Scout camp in San Diego next month demanding the organization open its membership and leadership to them"

This describes the nasty evil sickening SF homosexual community to a tee...BUT, God will deal with them severely!!


Genesis 19:4

4as they were preparing to retire for the night, all the men of Sodom, young and old, came from all over the city and surrounded the house.
5They shouted to Lot, "Where are the men who came to spend the night with you? Bring them out so we can have sex with them."
6Lot stepped outside to talk to them, shutting the door behind him.
7"Please, my brothers," he begged, "don't do such a wicked thing.
9"Stand back!" they shouted. "Who do you think you are? We let you settle among us, and now you are trying to tell us what to do! We'll treat you far worse than those other men!" And they lunged at Lot and began breaking down the door.
13 posted on 09/25/2005 11:14:29 AM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: hsalaw

Isn't illegal to harrass people for exercising their Constitutional rights?


14 posted on 09/25/2005 11:15:24 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Jacob Kell

From the Scouting for all web site:

"We will no longer tolerate our gay youth having to remain invisible out of fear. We are working to help create a society where gay (GLBTQ) youth will feel safe, accepted, and loved for the beautiful individuals they are blessed to be."
Scouting For All Board of Directors, Members, and Volunteers

We plan to change society so our kids can go camping with the other boys. BTW, the Girl Scouts already accepts homosexual leaders and presumably openly homosexual girls. How are they doing?


15 posted on 09/25/2005 11:15:48 AM PDT by KC_for_Freedom (Sailing the highways of America, and loving it.)
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To: Jacob Kell
homosexual activists and atheists plan to march on a Boy Scout camp in San Diego next month

You can't make this stuff up folks
16 posted on 09/25/2005 11:17:17 AM PDT by Vision (When Hillary Says She's Going To Put The Military On Our Borders...She Becomes Our Next President)
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To: Jacob Kell
NAMBLA circling the Boy Scout camp like vultures. Talk about a need for a restraining order!


17 posted on 09/25/2005 11:17:37 AM PDT by FormerACLUmember
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To: Brilliant

"Isn't illegal to harrass people for exercising their Constitutional rights?"

Yes. One of the often-overlooked freedoms in the First Amendment is freedom of association.


18 posted on 09/25/2005 11:19:43 AM PDT by hsalaw
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To: Jacob Kell

Will they be selling cookies?


19 posted on 09/25/2005 11:22:28 AM PDT by Sterco
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To: Jacob Kell
A coalition of homosexual activists and atheists plan to march on a Boy Scout camp....

What better endorsement could the Scouts have? We are known by our enemies.

Another example of the Communists on the march. We had better get serious and do more than just grin and bear it.

The Scouts are the embodiment of our American values.

20 posted on 09/25/2005 11:25:31 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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To: KC_for_Freedom

"Why doesn't this fine coalition start an organization of its own?"

Good idea: rather than the Boy Scouts, they can call themselves the Homosexuals Scouting for Boys. Oh wait; they already have that organization: NAMBLA.


21 posted on 09/25/2005 11:25:53 AM PDT by hsalaw
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To: hsalaw
"This isn't about getting girls into the Boy Scouts. That's just a throwaway to placate the dim-witted fems. This is about getting homosexuals into and God out of the Boy Scouts."

Exactly! If scouting for homosexuals were their goal, (which it is not), then forming their own scouting organization would be far easier than tyring to overturn the customs and principles of a century old organization steeped in Christian values. What they really want is to infiltrate, divide and destroy.

In fact, once the Judiciary orders that homosexuals be allowed to join and teach in the Boy Scouts, the Scouts will cease to exist because their moral foundation will have been abolished. If you add excrement to a prime rib dinner, you have a plate of $#!t.

22 posted on 09/25/2005 11:28:20 AM PDT by TheCrusader ("The frenzy of the Mohammedans has devastated the churches of God" -Pope Urban II, 1097AD)
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To: Jacob Kell

I'm rady to call it domestic terrorism. Trying to scare children like this, is way over the top.


23 posted on 09/25/2005 11:28:48 AM PDT by lrb111
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To: Jacob Kell
There's nothing I can say that hasn't been said already on this post and on others like it. It just sickens and angers me so much- I wish there was something that could be done to stop this spread of deviance.
24 posted on 09/25/2005 11:30:23 AM PDT by conservative cat
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To: lrb111

Absolutely right. This should not be allowed to happen.


25 posted on 09/25/2005 11:31:43 AM PDT by Retired RN (MSM...their minds are made up, don't confuse them with the facts.)
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To: KC_for_Freedom

I wasn't aware that Girl Scouts accepted openly homosexual leaders- what's your source for this?

As a registered adult volunteer and co-leader of my wife's troop, I have found the Girl Scouts to be fanatical about protecting the girls from possible molestation- to the point where a husband and wife cannot be co-leaders without a third, unrelated female co-leader present.

As I recall, some years ago the Boy Scouts had a problem similar to what the Catholic Church is experiencing now. After a number of high-profile cases and subsequent lawsuits, the Boy Scouts were forced to carefully screen their leaders.
As far as members, the older boys tend to be assistant leaders and mentor the younger boys. So allowing homosexual members would lead to more of the same problems as time went on and the older scouts went on to become leaders as adults.
Now that scouting has 'cleaned up it's act', the radical homosexuals are pressuring them to undo all the positive changes they've made in the last decade or so.
Go figure.


26 posted on 09/25/2005 11:32:53 AM PDT by Ostlandr (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: TheCrusader
What they really want is to infiltrate, divide and destroy.

Very well said.

27 posted on 09/25/2005 11:32:53 AM PDT by SIDENET (Nothing produces the quite same reaction as the sighting of a large, flying cockroach.)
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To: Jacob Kell; Gribbit; Jay777

This march and rally needs a good FReep and some attention from http://www.stoptheaclu.com


28 posted on 09/25/2005 11:34:28 AM PDT by loboinok (Gun Control is hitting what you aim at!)
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To: KC_for_Freedom
Why doesn't this fine coalition start an organization of its own? Mayhaps parents would not send them their kids?

I know you're asking a rhetorical question, but it's a good one.

What parents would send their kids to such an organization?

29 posted on 09/25/2005 11:40:36 AM PDT by Ole Okie
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later pingout.


30 posted on 09/25/2005 11:44:20 AM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
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To: Jacob Kell; RonF; AppauledAtAppeasementConservat; Da Jerdge; Looking for Diogenes; ...

They just won't be happy until they have destroyed the Boy Scouts.


31 posted on 09/25/2005 12:24:49 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: Reactionary
""Institutionalized homophobia in the Scouts or in church or school is the cruelest of all," said Ian McKellan, the actor who played Gandolf in the "Lord of the Rings" trilogy, in an appearance for the group. "It makes life miserable for young gay people and it misleads their peers with regard to the 'truth' about gay people – that they are remarkably similar to the rest." "

Similar? Wanting to have sex with other members of the group is a BIG difference from the rest of them, a hurdle that most people can't get over you liberal putze.
A group of boys standing on a dock waiting to go swimming with most of them thinking how he can shove his buddy in without getting yelled at, all well and good. Add a known homosexual to the group and all the rest of them will be thinking of is "Why is he standing so close to me? Is he looking at me? Why do I have to stand next to him?"
This isn't a learned reaction, kids aren't told to feel this way, they just do, its instinctive for most people to react that way, and for those who say its being homophobic -BS! Its no different than a young man getting goofy when a pretty girl smiles at them, its the SAME THING!

32 posted on 09/25/2005 12:25:16 PM PDT by Abathar (Proudly catching hell for posting without reading since 2004)
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To: Abathar
This isn't a learned reaction, kids aren't told to feel this way, they just do, its instinctive for most people to react that way, and for those who say its being homophobic -BS! Its no different than a young man getting goofy when a pretty girl smiles at them, its the SAME THING!

Exactly. As an adult, my natural reaction to finding out someone is a homosexual is to avoid them as much as possible. No, I don't want to beat them up or anything, but the normal biological response of a heterosexual is to separate one's self from such people.
33 posted on 09/25/2005 12:40:41 PM PDT by Welsh Rabbit
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To: SandRat

They will never destroy Scouting, but that is clearly their goal.


34 posted on 09/25/2005 12:47:28 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: FormerACLUmember

NAMBLA circling the Boy Scout camp like vultures. Talk about a need for a .357 Magnum!


35 posted on 09/25/2005 12:57:56 PM PDT by newsgatherer
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To: Ostlandr

I can't find a referrence to what I recall, that the girl scouts quietly dropped homosexuality as a disqualifier to leadership and membership and thus are an example of what the Boy Scouts can do. I scanned the Girl Scouts web page and found no overt statement to this fact.

Here is a quote that is fairly innocent, except that the Boy Scouts could not make it. "We invite you to learn about our robust organization and its rich history. From our willingness to tackle important societal issues, to our commitment to diversity and inclusiveness—Girl Scouts is dedicated to every girl, everywhere."

That said, I am glad that the Girls have instituted the same policies as the boy Scouts (and in fact all organizations who work with kids). No single adult alone with a single child sums it up well.

While at a father son meeting in my son's troop, one asst scoutmaster suggested that he would be open to charter changes allowing homosexuals in the troop as leaders or scouts. The scouts position is somewhat like "don't ask, don't tell in that the only way a member of this group would be identified and terminated would be for them to deliberately and openly behave in a homosexual manner, or promote homosexuality. Thus the Boy Scouts would allow, (and have in the past allowed) homosexuals who stayed in the closet. The other scoutmasters disagreed with this man and the discussion went no farther.

At the same time the Boy Scouts describes molestation and suggests ways to detect it and talk about it with parents in the Boy Scout Handbook. This will have a chilling effect on Scout to Scout or Adult to Scotu molestation and most of the time allow it to be discovered and delt with.

This I suggest is the real reason for homosexuals to compaign against the scouts. The Scouts anti molestation message would apply to the homosexual coming of age activities that "some" homosexuals engage in as a introduction to the homosexual lifestyle.


36 posted on 09/25/2005 1:11:49 PM PDT by KC_for_Freedom (Sailing the highways of America, and loving it.)
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To: Jacob Kell

supply the Boy Scouts with slingshots


37 posted on 09/25/2005 1:16:30 PM PDT by injin
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To: Ole Okie
What parents would send their kids to such an organization?

The answer is that there are some who would. Those parents so steeped in the concept of diversity and multiculturism that they support their kids joining Gay Lib groups and participating in a "Day of Silence" at school to show soladairity with the homosexuals of the world...

If Scouts were to have active homosexual leadership, (I mean out in the open leaders who openly discuss their sex lives with the troop, (yuk) Then this troop would see membership, support, and charter decline as well as the national leadership pulling the troop's official charter.

As for athiests, the Scouts are pretty loose about what constitutes a "Duty to G-d" and they allow a scout to define his belief in "any higher power" which can include the collective laws of nature as well as all major religions dieties.

38 posted on 09/25/2005 1:18:49 PM PDT by KC_for_Freedom (Sailing the highways of America, and loving it.)
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To: Ostlandr
the Boy Scouts were forced to carefully screen their leaders.

In actuallity, the Boy Scouts does little to "carefully screen their leaders". It would be OK with me if they did, but how do you identify a "known homosexual"? The scout leadership application form only askes if you have a condition that would disqualify you from actively living up to the Scout Oath and Law? Conditions such as being an escaped felon come to mind, but the question is vague. There is no specific question about homosexuality or belief in G-d.

The best example I know is a troop in the South San Jose region in California that once activly advertised that their policy would be different from the national organization in that they would not disqualify a homosexual from being a leader in their troop. (They felt the national leadership was sending the wrong message.) Their charter was not pulled as they had done nothing specifically to act on their pledge. Finally a young man from San Francisco, who was an openly homosexual man, volunteered to drive the 35 some miles each week to their meeting place and applied to be an assistant scoutmaster. The troop denied his request on the grounds that they had no need for additional assistant scoutmasters, and that was the last I heard of the event.

39 posted on 09/25/2005 1:29:31 PM PDT by KC_for_Freedom (Sailing the highways of America, and loving it.)
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To: Jacob Kell

Girls 14 to 21 are part of scouting in the Venture program that is co-ed. They are very active and able to to more "high adventure" scouting than regular troops. They can shoot pistols and navigate higher class rapids in white water.


40 posted on 09/25/2005 1:29:35 PM PDT by Dan12180
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To: SandRat; Jeff Head; SLB
My old marksmanship merit badge is no longer issued....stopped in 1966, a shotgun shooting badge is only current shooting skill taught the scouts.

I did locate a marksmanship badge issued to scouts in the Phillipines...

Guess we could issue some rock salt loads for use by the scouts against these child molestors trying to get legally sanctioned to prey upon the youth of our nation.....

41 posted on 09/25/2005 1:32:14 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. )
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To: Jacob Kell

Would it be possible to claim that this group is terrorizing these boys and get a restraining order against them? It probably wouldn't wash, but I was just wondering.


42 posted on 09/25/2005 1:39:37 PM PDT by Retired RN (MSM...their minds are made up, don't confuse them with the facts.)
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To: Squantos

You can earn a merit badge for 22 shooting as well as the shotgun merit badge. Venturers can earn awards for handguns.


43 posted on 09/25/2005 1:47:19 PM PDT by Dan12180
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To: Dan12180

My oldest daughter is thinking of doing this next year. She's in her last year of Cadette Girl Scouts, and wants to finish her Silver Award project, but she's been griping for a couple of years that the other girls don't want to do much outdoors stuff.


44 posted on 09/25/2005 1:57:27 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Start the revolution - I'll bring the tea and muffins!)
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To: Dan12180

Kewl.....I'm a old Eagle Scout, May 71.....not up to par on current awards, thanks for the info. I have the mile swim, did Philmont a couple of times, a few 50 miler awards for canoeing, mile swims, order of the arrow etc.....Enjoyed every minute of it.....:o)


45 posted on 09/25/2005 2:10:00 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. )
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To: Jacob Kell

Can't you just see it? They will all have to earn the 'Rainbow Badge' teaching them the justification of homosexuality.


46 posted on 09/25/2005 2:29:19 PM PDT by BigFinn
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To: Brilliant

The Scout camp in San Diego that is being referenced here is probably the one in Balboa Park. This is public parkland that the BSA leases from the city. The ACLU has brought suit to get the lease cancelled and get the BSA thrown off of the land, on the basis that the BSA's membeship policies keep the public from using the land.

Of course, I doubt they'll support reimbursing the BSA the millions they've spent on improving the land, nor do they consider that the public is allowed to use the land numerous times during they year when summer camp is not in session, and use the facilities that the local Council has built.


47 posted on 09/25/2005 8:44:32 PM PDT by RonF
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To: Brilliant
The lead may be pretty thick.

I understand that there has been an increased interest towards the Archery Merit Badge also...

48 posted on 09/25/2005 8:48:44 PM PDT by CommandoFrank (Peer into the depths of hell and you will find the face of Islam...)
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To: KC_for_Freedom

The BSA does not screen for homosexuals. What they screen for is your legal records. While all screening used to be left up to the sponsoring organizations, the sponsors did not always step up to their obligations. The BSA now takes your Social Security number when you register and has a security organization check out your arrest and conviction records nation wide. If you have a felony record, the local Council will be notified. If you have a conviction involving sex or children, you will be rejected outright. I'm not quite sure how other convictions are handled. If you are rejected, you will have the opportunity to examine and contest the information.


49 posted on 09/25/2005 8:51:53 PM PDT by RonF
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To: Tax-chick

Your daughter would have a great time if she gets into the right Venturing Crew. I can put her in contact with a few that I got to know while we were in Japan for two weeks together last summer on a cultural exchange with Japanese Venturers.


50 posted on 09/25/2005 8:53:57 PM PDT by RonF
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