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600 barrels of loot found on Crusoe island
The Guardian ^ | Monday September 26, 2005 | Jonathan Franklin

Posted on 09/25/2005 7:30:39 PM PDT by Candor7

The archipelago is named after Robinson Crusoe, but perhaps it should have been called Treasure Island. A long quest for booty from the Spanish colonial era appears to be culminating in Chile with the announcement by a group of adventurers that they have found an estimated 600 barrels of gold coins and Incan jewels on the remote Pacific island.

"The biggest treasure in history has been located," said Fernando Uribe-Etxeverria, a lawyer for Wagner, the Chilean company leading the search. Mr Uribe-Etxeverria estimated the value of the buried treasure at US$10bn (£5.6bn).

The announcement set off ownership claims. The treasure hunters claimed half the loot was theirs and said they would donate it to non-profit-making organisations. The government said that they had no share to donate. It also prompted speculation about the contents of what is considered to be one of the great lost treasures from the Spanish looting of South America. Chilean newspapers were filled with reports that the stash includes 10 papal rings and original gold statues from the Incan empire.

The hoard is supposedly buried 15 metres (50ft) deep on Robinson Crusoe island, also known as the Juan Fernández island, home to Scottish sailor Alexander Selkirk, the adventurer immortalised by Daniel Defoe as Robinson Crusoe. Selkirk was dumped on the island and lived alone for four years before being rescued. His exploits brought worldwide attention to the islands.

For centuries treasure hunters have scoured the island in search of booty which was reportedly buried there in 1715 by Spanish sailor Juan Esteban Ubilla y Echeverria. Using everything from old Spanish ship manifests to teams of islanders with shovels and picks, foreigners have made so many claims of discovering the lost treasure that islanders are usually sceptical of the proclamations.

This most recent announcement, however, deserves greater credence because of the equipment used by the treasure hunters: a mini robot that can scan 50 metres deep into the earth. The robot, dubbed "Arturito", was invented by Chileans and over the past year has grabbed headlines by breaking some of the country's biggest criminal mysteries.

First, the robot detected the buried arsenal of a rightwing sect known as Colonia Dignidad. The guns and rocket launchers were buried at some 10 metres and while the authorities had searched for years, the robot found the buried weapons almost instantly. Then, in the case of missing businessman Jose Yuraszeck, Arturito was able to analyse the soil and identify the molecular composition of human bones, allowing investigators to dig straight to the body of the murder victim.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Political Humor/Cartoons
KEYWORDS: alexanderselkirk; archeology; arrr; artefacts; avast; chile; crusoe; goldcoins; hunters; inca; peru; pirates; robinsoncrusoe; spanishpirate; treasure
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Wow! We need a robot like "Arturito" on Oak Island, and in the search for missing teen Natalie Holloway in Aruba! Just think how many Clinton closet skeletons might be found! ( LOL)
1 posted on 09/25/2005 7:30:42 PM PDT by Candor7
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To: Candor7; blam

BTTT


2 posted on 09/25/2005 7:32:01 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Candor7

awesome story but don't trust a thing off the guardian


3 posted on 09/25/2005 7:33:11 PM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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To: Candor7

estimated the value of the buried treasure at US$10bn
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That's a lot of Booty!


4 posted on 09/25/2005 7:33:42 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear
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To: Candor7

Ten billion dollars. That's a lot of dinero, if true.


5 posted on 09/25/2005 7:34:36 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Fiddlstix
"awesome story but don't trust a thing off the guardian."

Ditto.

6 posted on 09/25/2005 7:35:10 PM PDT by blam
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To: Candor7

Or at Fort Marcy Park.


7 posted on 09/25/2005 7:38:29 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Grannyx4; Sarcastic1; TapTap

Incan Booty Ping!


8 posted on 09/25/2005 7:40:00 PM PDT by LongElegantLegs (Fines for excess bleeding.)
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To: Candor7
If I was ever lucky enough to find even one barrel of loot, I can guarantee there would not be a press release.
9 posted on 09/25/2005 7:40:10 PM PDT by 11Bush
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To: blam
"awesome story but don't trust a thing off the guardian."

"10 papal rings"

10 popes visited there????

10 posted on 09/25/2005 7:41:27 PM PDT by Sooth2222
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To: SunkenCiv

Treasure!!


11 posted on 09/25/2005 7:42:02 PM PDT by DaveLoneRanger (As long as liberalism and I exist, neither one of us is safe.)
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To: Grizzled Bear
That's a lot of Booty!

The Jennifer Lopez of buried treasure.

12 posted on 09/25/2005 7:42:11 PM PDT by neodad (Rule Number 1: Be Armed)
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To: Candor7
Treasure Hunting Procedures:

1. Find treasure
2. Remove treasure from site to a known disinterested country
3. Announce treasure. Consider lying about source.

Alternate Procedure:

1. Make legally binding deal with all cognizant governments.
2. Find treasure
3. Make sure the agreements will be upheld. Consider showing small pieces, but not hinting at total hoarde.
4. If deal broken, see other procedures.

13 posted on 09/25/2005 7:43:53 PM PDT by alancarp (Will hack code for oil)
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To: Candor7

Now where did I leave that map?


14 posted on 09/25/2005 7:44:24 PM PDT by Lokibob (All typos and spelling errors are mine and copyrighted!!!!)
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To: Candor7
Seems whenever some government hears about things found of value, they ether want to make claim to it or give a near nothing reward.

Maybe the best thing next time is to dumb, take possession and give it to whoever you wish and let the government find out way later.
If the treasure gets converted from a historic piece to cash or equivalent value, declare the income.
15 posted on 09/25/2005 7:44:35 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: blam

Yours: "awesome story but don't trust a thing off the guardian.
Ditto."


Yeah, I know the tabloid scale of the Guardian is "very high" but I resemble that remark!

Note that Aussie ABC news has also picked up the story.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200509/s1467856.htm

Perhaps there is something to it after all.

Imagine, 600 barrels of Incan Treasure! Indiana Jones, move over! I bet that Zacharia Sitchen would like to inspect those artifacts! Perhaps we will learn some of the secrets of where the Toltecs came from, or maybe there is a gold model of a spaceship in them thar barrels! We likely will never know if the Chilean Government confiscates it all.


16 posted on 09/25/2005 7:45:45 PM PDT by Candor7 (Into Liberal Flatulence Goes the Hope of the West)
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To: Candor7

It's no wonder it couldn't be found without advanced equipment. Fifty feet is a damn deep hole in the ground.


17 posted on 09/25/2005 7:45:45 PM PDT by somemoreequalthanothers (All for the betterment of "the state", comrade)
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To: Grizzled Bear

$10 billion? That's not as much booty as Clinton gets!


18 posted on 09/25/2005 7:46:02 PM PDT by Appalled but Not Surprised
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To: Candor7; Ernest_at_the_Beach
Can I borrow the Robot. I've dreamed for 60 years of finding the Lost Dutchman Mine. I buy Lotto tickets as a placebo...
19 posted on 09/25/2005 7:46:13 PM PDT by tubebender (Humboldt County...Where the men are men and so are the women)
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To: alancarp

Good list! In your procedure you forgot step 2, choose one or two really cool pieces for self and store in undisclosed location.


20 posted on 09/25/2005 7:46:40 PM PDT by Moonmad27
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To: Candor7
Excuse me while I hum the theme song from Gilligan's Island.
...like Robinson Caaaaruuuussooo,,,

May Gilligan RIP.

21 posted on 09/25/2005 7:46:54 PM PDT by vox_freedom (Fear no evil)
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To: neodad

Yours:

"That's a lot of Booty!
The Jennifer Lopez of buried treasure."

Bump!

Sunshine Booty....we all dream of it!


22 posted on 09/25/2005 7:48:10 PM PDT by Candor7 (Into Liberal Flatulence Goes the Hope of the West)
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To: Sooth2222

Yours: "10 papal rings"

Did you mean 10 papal pings ?? ( LOL)


23 posted on 09/25/2005 7:49:17 PM PDT by Candor7 (Into Liberal Flatulence Goes the Hope of the West)
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To: Grizzled Bear
"ARRRGGGH...did someone say they wanted to see me booty???"



It's the dread pirate thomas!
24 posted on 09/25/2005 7:50:27 PM PDT by flashbunny (Do you believe in the Constitution only until it keeps the government from doing what you want?)
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To: Candor7
BTW...don't get caught between this Booty and Jerry Rivers...
25 posted on 09/25/2005 7:50:56 PM PDT by tubebender (Humboldt County...Where the men are men and so are the women)
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To: Candor7
"Spanish sailor Juan Esteban"


26 posted on 09/25/2005 7:51:04 PM PDT by Rebelbase ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." --Hillary Clinton)
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To: Candor7

Fer later


27 posted on 09/25/2005 7:51:19 PM PDT by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: SunkenCiv; blam; FairOpinion; Ernest_at_the_Beach; StayAt HomeMother; 24Karet; 3AngelaD; AntiGuv; ..

GGG PING


"A long quest for booty from the Spanish colonial era appears to be culminating in Chile with the announcement by a group of adventurers that they have found an estimated 600 barrels of gold coins and Incan jewels on the remote Pacific island. "


28 posted on 09/25/2005 7:53:17 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: Candor7

Rrrrrr!


29 posted on 09/25/2005 7:54:04 PM PDT by MontanaBeth
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To: Candor7

I don't suppose there's any move to give back to the Incans that which was stolen. Didn't think so.


30 posted on 09/25/2005 7:57:04 PM PDT by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
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To: gcruse


Keep the treasure, just gimme one of those robots !
( LOL)


31 posted on 09/25/2005 8:01:15 PM PDT by Candor7 (Into Liberal Flatulence Goes the Hope of the West)
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To: Candor7
"The announcement set off ownership claims.

It's mine, I tell you, mine!

32 posted on 09/25/2005 8:02:23 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.The medias job is too stir emotion into people to create a wide awareness of a)
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To: Sooth2222
10 popes visited there????

Typically stuff went from the New World to Europe not the other way around.

33 posted on 09/25/2005 8:02:52 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Mesocons for Rice '08)
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To: alancarp
Here, I fixed it for you.

1. Find treasure
2. Remove treasure from site to a known disinterested country secure site known only to you.
3. Announce treasure. Consider lying about source.

34 posted on 09/25/2005 8:04:23 PM PDT by PeaceBeWithYou (De Oppresso Liber! (50 million and counting in Afganistan and Iraq))
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To: Candor7
<grain_of_salt>
Then, in the case of missing businessman Jose Yuraszeck, Arturito was able to analyse the soil and identify the molecular composition of human bones, allowing investigators to dig straight to the body of the murder victim.
<'/grain_of_salt>
35 posted on 09/25/2005 8:05:29 PM PDT by solitas (So what if I support an OS that has fewer flaws than yours? 'Mystic' dual 500 G4's, OSX.4.2)
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To: Eagles6

bttt


36 posted on 09/25/2005 8:05:29 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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To: Candor7

Wow! We need a robot like "Arturito" on Oak Island

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Oak Island? Are you nuts? Get it over to Iraq! Uncover some WMD's and the whole National Media empire of the Democratic Party, and the democratic party itself will go nuclear! The radioactive fallout would make the democrats and their media propaganda arm the most hated people on the planet! Add to that find specific plans related to attacks on the U.S. and ties to Al Quida, maybe even a few French, German, and Russian parts and the U.N. Collapses too!!!!

A guy can dream can't he??

ANTI-DNC Web Portal at ---> http://www.noDNC.com


37 posted on 09/25/2005 8:06:09 PM PDT by woodb01 (ANTI-DNC Web Portal at ---> http://www.noDNC.com)
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To: alancarp

Treasure:

1) Find treasure.
2) Lose treasure.


Reality sucks. :-)


38 posted on 09/25/2005 8:06:10 PM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: Minus_The_Bear

"awesome story but don't trust a thing off the guardian"

thanks. we get a lot of it posted here. It's just a tabloid?


39 posted on 09/25/2005 8:06:15 PM PDT by strategofr (What did happen to those 293 boxes of secret FBI files (esp on Senators) Hillary stole?)
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To: Candor7
Don't count on any vast discoveries off parts of the coastal US as the Abandoned Shipwreck Act laws dictate that... " abandoned shipwreck in or on the public lands of the United States is the property of the United States Government. Any abandoned shipwreck in or on any Indian lands is the property of the Indian tribe owning such lands".

Whats on board or on site of these ships..goes to the State and/or Government. Even though it is loosely stated the finder be, as stated: " recognize(d)the interests of individuals and groups engaged in shipwreck discovery and salvage". The "finder" would be lucky if even his or her name were mentioned in the State museum to which it would be available to for public view.

There's a lot of great finds out there, maybe not as grand as the "600 barrels of loot"; but artifacts of historical importance (cannons, ivory, artifacts, etc) remain quietly resting in the "deep" and kept a secret by many commercial fishermen/ divers who's occupation has them diving for scallops, sea urchins, etc.

State salvage laws may vary..that I have not researched. Just your story caught my eye and know in the State where I reside..you'd be lucky if you even got a handshake.

40 posted on 09/25/2005 8:09:37 PM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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To: Candor7

It probably was hidden by Ben Gunn...especially if there was no cheese.


41 posted on 09/25/2005 8:22:28 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (I'm sick and tired of being sick and tired!)
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To: fight_truth_decay
What you say is true but then knowing how to deal with the government helps. Its the old," here is a sample of the treasure, which I will let alone forever, unless we can reach some agreement on housing it for posterity in a museum you will build for me and lease to me for 100 years, and I get all of the book rights, film rights, and income from admission at the door." sort of thing. I can't believe that the corporate attorney in this case thought through it well before hand, or as many say, the story may be false. Time will tell. Meanwhile we dream about 600 barrels of things like these:
42 posted on 09/25/2005 8:25:33 PM PDT by Candor7 (Into Liberal Flatulence Goes the Hope of the West)
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To: Grizzled Bear

Aaaaargh, Matey!

Shiver mee Timbers!


43 posted on 09/25/2005 8:32:26 PM PDT by montomike (Gay means happy and carefree...not an abomination against nature's check valve.)
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To: Candor7
The Guardian

I don't think much of this rag.
But it's a fun story for Sunday night.....beats the garbage on the boobustoobus.

44 posted on 09/25/2005 8:33:29 PM PDT by starfish923 (It's never right to do wrong. Socrates)
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To: montomike

Is that a yard arm in your pocket or are you just glad to see me? (International "Talk like a Pirate Day" was September 19th.)


45 posted on 09/25/2005 8:39:44 PM PDT by WIladyconservative (Save us from future Freepathons - set up a monthly donation!)
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To: Candor7

"The hoard is supposedly buried 15 metres (50ft) deep on Robinson Crusoe island"

"Supposedly"....means they have not dug it up yet. So until they do, it is speculation.


46 posted on 09/25/2005 8:39:53 PM PDT by Peace will be here soon (Liberal definition of looting: " Self-help Humanitarian Aid.")
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To: Candor7

WOW .... JUST WOW!


47 posted on 09/25/2005 8:40:31 PM PDT by Walkingfeather
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To: sit-rep; Travis McGee; TEXASPROUD

Wow I wonder if this is the same great great great great great grandfather Juan Esteban Ubilla y Echeverria my old Pappy bragged about ?........:o)


48 posted on 09/25/2005 8:41:12 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. )
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To: woodb01
You are so right in thinking what such a robot could do in Iraq, finding WMD's. Maybe we can let President Bush know he needs to hire the company for a snoop and poop mission in Iraq? Wow, the thing can see 160 feet underground! Must use a real powerful electrical source ? The operators must work in lead lined containers, or maybe thats why it is a robot. It must use ground radar or microwave energy that would be harmful to living organisms. I bet the earthworms wriggle right up out of the soil when that robot is turned on? Here is a picture of "Arturito", not very big is it?
49 posted on 09/25/2005 8:44:57 PM PDT by Candor7 (Into Liberal Flatulence Goes the Hope of the West)
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To: Squantos
Wow I wonder if this is the same great great great great great grandfather Juan Esteban Ubilla y Echeverria my old Pappy bragged about ?........:o)

I'm no relation, but I'm pretty sure sometime in the past I was disenfranchised by someone related to this treasure. Therefore Jesse Jackson and I demand reparations!

50 posted on 09/25/2005 9:12:07 PM PDT by cryptical
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