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Most awful movies (in celebration of Hollywood's fourth declining revenue year in a row)
9/28/05 | ltn72

Posted on 09/28/2005 9:11:34 AM PDT by pabianice

Movie theater revenues are down 10% in the past three years because of home video technology and because movie quality has objectively continued to decline. We Freepers occasionally review a movie here for fun and to warn others not to waste their money.

So, for a change of pace, let's discuss really bad movies we've seen for one reason or another. I propose three classes of bad movie:

Class 1. A bad movie you sit through because of peer pressure

Class 2. A really bad movie you force yourself to watch because, darn it, you paid for it!

Class 3. Horrifyingly bad movies you simply leave, dragging yourself up the aisle with your arms because your legs have gone numb from shock.

Examples:

Class 1: "The Incredible Lightness of Being" -- stupifyingly bad writing and performances, polished off by a plot involving a serial adulterer physician ruining the lives of all around him for his own sexual gratification – won numerous awards in Europe

Class 2: "The Strawberry Statement" -- I still remember the poster: "The Vibes Were Good, but the Times Were Bad" -- horrifyingly bad performances around a story of beautiful, gentle hippies going to college in San Francisco and lovingly protesting the Vietnam War, only to have the experience ruined by Cylon-like police in riot gear gassing and clubbing them to death during a sit-in for peace; also includes some of the worst dehumanization of women ever portrayed on the screen

"Coming Home" -- what can you say about a movie with Jane Fonda that tells the tale of a maimed vet coming home from the Illegal Vietnam War on Terror to win the heart of a military officer's wife who realizes that her Marine husband is actually a monster (who's also lousy in bed, of course) and so leaves him for the maimed (but good in bed despite the loss of most of his appendages) and virtuous war-protesting vet; movie ends with Marine drowning self by walking into the ocean to atone for his evil acts of national defense

“War of the Worlds” (2005) – This is one big mess of a movie; Aliens have already visited Earth in the distant past to leave their Tripods but then wait until we have atomic weapons and armies before they decide to come back and wipe us out; they arrive at nearly the speed of light in capsules that burrow underground and would be instantly vaporized by the impact; they need human blood to fertilize their Martian Kudzu (“Soilent Red is People!”); it never occurs to the Martians that they need to get flu shots before invading another planet; as the aliens sicken, they conveniently lower their shields so as to be suddenly defenseless against anti-tank rockets; the list is almost endless; the 1954 movie was far superior

"Getting Straight" -- yet another Vietnam vet comes home to attend college and is faced with a school faculty who are all repressed homosexuals and psychotics who determine to drive him out of college; he's saved by heroine who encourages him to Stiock it To the Man!; story ends with the vet kissing his male teacher on the mouth, creating a riot on campus, and then having sex with the heroine on the staircase as the riot and tear gas swill about them in a wonderful collage of color and self-congratulation -- ah!

Class 3: "The Happy Hooker" -- no plot, no production, no acting, but lots of frontal nudity and smashed beds

"Darling" -- critically acclaimed piece of crap about a beautiful, talented, rich woman with the IQ of an end table struggling to make her way in a world of rich men who throw themselves at her feet and take her to fabulous vacation spots

Special Category – What Would Have Been Good Movies But Ruined by One Bad Scene: “A Few Good Men” – Very entertaining story about good and evil in uniform ruined in the courtroom climax, when LTJG Caffee says to the colonel: “I’m a Navy officer, and you are under arrest, you son of a bitch!” Those last five gratuitous words by a screenwriter clueless about the military instantly makes Caffee guilty of disrespect towards a superior officer (a court martial offense) and lower him to Jessup’s level


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To: dead

The Blair Witch Project was the most profitable movie ever made.


101 posted on 09/28/2005 9:41:42 AM PDT by Grand Old Partisan
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To: Pharmer
Titanic. This film was a disaster (get it?).

I remember watching it, thinking "Just sink already."

102 posted on 09/28/2005 9:42:01 AM PDT by dfwgator (Flower Mound, TX)
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To: uncbob

I would respectfully disagree. In "A Few Good Men," the military was portrayed as, for the most part, an ethical institution (Cruise, Bacon, both the younger marines, Moore and Pollack) that was capable of weeding out the corrupt colonel. The only area where I think it strayed into typical liberal agitprop was the need to make Keifer Sutherland's psycho Lt. into a born again Christian.


103 posted on 09/28/2005 9:42:23 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: pabianice
Okie:

Class 1: Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind. Ugh.

Class 2: Stone Mountain. Double Ugh.

Class 3: Legends of the Fall, Adventures of Baron Munchausen (1988). Shootmenow Ugh.

104 posted on 09/28/2005 9:42:25 AM PDT by Lil'freeper
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To: Pharmer

I'm still wondering how the Aviator won the Oscar. Worst winner in some time...


105 posted on 09/28/2005 9:42:35 AM PDT by gopwinsin04
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To: pabianice

"The Choirboys": One of the first of the "Take a Decent Book Then Hack And Slash It Into Irrlevance" Movies.

Joe Wambaugh was absolutely right to have his name removed from this poorly written, acted and directed piece of cinematic dreck that even James Woods, Don Stroud and Louis Gossett Jr. couldn't pull up from the sewer!

Special Category: "Full Metal Jacket": Kubrick should have stayed stuck to Gus Hasford's "The Short Timers" as he had for 3/4 of the novel (Which is superb!) as it was written!

Having Joker, Cowboy and the Lust Hog Squad sent to Khe Sahn. Where the squad falls victim to another ambush where Doc is shot. Cowboy goes after him and is shot. Joker takes charge, decides not to risk any more men and shoots Cowboy dead!

"Hedwig and The Angry Inch": A very popular IFC film. Though, I just can't get the hang of a rock band with John Cameron Mitchell in drag leading it. Far too pretentious for its own good.

Jack.


106 posted on 09/28/2005 9:42:43 AM PDT by Jack Deth (Knight Errant and Disemboweler of the WFTD Thread)
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To: pabianice
BTW... my "moments" based on the classes:

  1. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles -- College. Trying to impress cute girl who liked the "Turtles". 'Nuff said.

  2. The Bourne Identity -- After faithfully following the book for about 15 minutes, they throw the rest of it out the window, turn the good guys into the bad guys, and completely replace the major point of conflict in the story. Would have been a class 3 if Mrs. kevkrom (who never read the book) hadn't been enjoying herself.

  3. None -- I can't recall ever walking out of a theater; if the movie is that bad, I stay to mock it.

107 posted on 09/28/2005 9:42:48 AM PDT by kevkrom ("Political looters" should be shot on sight)
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To: I still care

I just watched Canstantine last night. I like dark movies, and it's pretty much all about dark.


108 posted on 09/28/2005 9:42:49 AM PDT by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: Borges

I don't remember the novel saying anything about the pre-positioned war machines.


109 posted on 09/28/2005 9:42:53 AM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (Pray Daily For Our Troops and President Bush and the Gulf Coast.)
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To: pittsburgh gop guy
good song by coolio though.


110 posted on 09/28/2005 9:43:06 AM PDT by Sloth (We cannot defeat foreign enemies of the Constitution if we yield to the domestic ones.)
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To: pabianice

The worst movie ever made: AMERICAN MOVIE
Amazon.com essential video
Struggling filmmaker Mark Borchardt is the subject of American Movie, and he may also be the most determined man you'll ever meet. The straggly haired, fast-talking, Menomonee Falls, Wisconsin, native lists his greatest influences as Dawn of the Dead, Night of the Living Dead, and The Texas Chainsaw Massacre. He began making horror movies as a gangly adolescent, and is now set on finishing Coven (which he pronounces like "woven"), the "35-minute direct market thriller" he has worked on for two years. In the process, he steadfastly battles immense debt, the threat of losing his kids, and birds chirping gleefully through scenes set in the dead of winter. His mother would rather do her shopping than be an extra, his brother contends he's best suited for factory work, and his father just wants him to "watch the language."
Standing by him through it all is Mark's childhood buddy, Mike Schank, who is the strongest weapon against drug use a task force could ever hope for, and Uncle Bill, begrudging financier of Coven, who appears to be wasting away before our very eyes. In less perceptive hands these two could easily become caricatures--the burnt-out stoner and the crotchety old coot--but through director Chris Smith's lens we see why Mark loves them, why they love Mark, and why each of these stories is uniquely compelling.

Winner of the Grand Jury Prize at the 1999 Sundance Film Festival, the film has been compared to Spinal Tap and Waiting for Guffman--two unquestionably hilarious mock-documentaries--and, indeed, American Movie has plenty of laugh-out-loud moments. But in the spoofs, we feel encouraged to point and giggle at the poor slobs trying to get a piece of the action. Smith, however, offers us a funny and overwhelmingly affectionate portrait; you may sit down expecting to laugh at Mark's pie-in-the-sky hopes, but you soon find yourself bursting with admiration. "The American dream stays with me each and every day," Mark says, and by the end, we want nothing more than for it to come true. (The DVD version includes the complete short film "Coven.") --Brangien Davis


111 posted on 09/28/2005 9:43:22 AM PDT by Tugo (The worst)
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To: Central Scrutiniser

Two favorite scenes from Sid n Nancy:
Nancy calling her mother from a pay phone in London telling her she's married and to send money and the part where the kid is getting picked on in the vacant lot, Sid comes to save the day, and ALL the kids run away when he sayd "I'm Sid Vicious".

Someone stole my copy of Sid and Nancy a long time ago and I ache for it to this day. Sighs while waxing nostalgiacally.

BTW, Central Scrutinizer, is that screen name a throw to Zappa's Joe's Garage??? It's got some lazy neurons snapping in my head and I'm not so sure.


112 posted on 09/28/2005 9:43:42 AM PDT by Woman on Caroline Street (Go sell crazy somewhere else. We're all stocked up here.)
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To: Woman on Caroline Street
How bout this category- "The Date Killer". This is a movie that is so bad, you feel guilty that your date paid 8.50 for you to see it, and what makes the situation "killer" is that they recommended something else but deferred to your "good" judgment.

"Mystery Men." She suggested it, I paid. Never went out with her again.

113 posted on 09/28/2005 9:43:53 AM PDT by Clemenza (Giuliani endorsed Clinton and Cuomo)
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To: pabianice

Class 3: Can't remember the title but it was the movie 3-4 years about a reunion of a folk singing group. I rented it but it was so bad I pulled it out after about 30 min. Whole story line was the same tedious joke or it seemed like it to me.


114 posted on 09/28/2005 9:44:03 AM PDT by nomorelurker (wetraginhell)
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To: Borges
WOTW was also superb though.

Superb? Maybe if you have the hots for Tom Cruise.

I went to see it with some friends, and told others to rent the video. The 1950s version, that is. End to end, it was so chock full of ludicrous happenings (scientific impossibilities, continuity problems, unexplained scenes) that I thought Ed Wood had directed this thing.

115 posted on 09/28/2005 9:44:10 AM PDT by ssaftler ("Where are the Greyhound Buses?" - Ray Nagin)
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To: gopwinsin04

It didn't win.


116 posted on 09/28/2005 9:45:03 AM PDT by Borges
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To: pabianice

I agree, the original was a metaphor for the Post War/Cold War world. A warning which we have failed to heed.

The remake would have been a good movie had the original never existed.


117 posted on 09/28/2005 9:45:03 AM PDT by Conservomax (There are no solutions, only trade-offs.)
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To: nomorelurker

"A Mighty Wind" or "Waiting on Guffman"....something like that? Both total parodies...bad, but funny.


118 posted on 09/28/2005 9:45:49 AM PDT by americanMel
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To: pabianice

Prelude to a Kiss - was on a date (thought it would be a good date movie) zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Chariots of Fire - Heard all the hype, then stunned by the sheer boredom of it!

Most anything with Will Smith in it. Talk about ham-handed acting! And that black ghetto schtick is getting really old. Hey Will, that was funny 20 years ago in that TV sitcom, now get over it!


119 posted on 09/28/2005 9:45:53 AM PDT by Obadiah (Deuteronomy 6:5)
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To: Conservomax
Class 3: XXX State of the Union - Sequel with Ice Cube, one of the worst most degenerate movies I have ever seen. it was so shamelessly overly targeted to inner city blacks that I almost went on welfare after i saw it on my plane

BWAHHHAAA! Reminds me of how I felt about "2 Fast, 2 Furious" which I "watched" with my nephews.

120 posted on 09/28/2005 9:45:53 AM PDT by Clemenza (Giuliani endorsed Clinton and Cuomo)
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To: LilDarlin; Clemenza
Class 3 - The Babe Ruth Story starring William Bendix

Oh no way!

Possibly the greatest unintentionally hysterical movie of all time!

Dumpy old Bendix plays the Babe all the way back in the orphanage for godsakes! He makes a cripple kid walk merely by laying his hands on him! He donates his still-living body for science experiments that one day may save others!

The funniest thing about that movie is that in the movie, the Babe dies his noble death so others might live. But when it was released, Babe Ruth was still alive! He went to the premiere!

I just LOVE everything about that movie.

121 posted on 09/28/2005 9:46:09 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: ianmb

I think we walked out on I Heart Huckabees.


122 posted on 09/28/2005 9:46:15 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Conservomax

Speaking of remakes that shouldn't have been made, last year's "The Manchurian Candidate" immediately comes to mind. And that reminds me, speaking of Denzel Washington (who I usually like), what about that 2-hour DNC ad "John Q."


123 posted on 09/28/2005 9:46:16 AM PDT by dfwgator (Flower Mound, TX)
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To: AxelPaulsenJr

Well that's not related to the 'all in one night' idea you mentioned. It was a great mood piece that could only have been directed by a master. It's a 'Director is the star' movie is there ever was one. The actors and script don't really matter.


124 posted on 09/28/2005 9:46:31 AM PDT by Borges
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To: pabianice
How about a special category for the best movie ever made:


125 posted on 09/28/2005 9:47:00 AM PDT by Conservomax (There are no solutions, only trade-offs.)
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To: Ditter
I think we walked out on I Heart Huckabees.

We did!

126 posted on 09/28/2005 9:47:05 AM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (Pray Daily For Our Troops and President Bush and the Gulf Coast.)
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To: Ditter

That's the movie you are thinking of, but see, that's not really the plot! That's why I said the trailer is deceptive. If I tell you, I'll ruin it for you if you want to see it.


127 posted on 09/28/2005 9:47:24 AM PDT by I still care (America is not the problem - it is the solution..)
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To: Lil'freeper
Class 1: Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind. Ugh.

Ok... am I strange in saying that I liked this movie? I thought it was one of the best pieces of science fiction (as opposed to SciFi/Space Opera) to hit the screen in ages -- the premise of: what would be the social effects of introducing this type of technology.

128 posted on 09/28/2005 9:47:30 AM PDT by kevkrom ("Political looters" should be shot on sight)
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To: ssaftler

The complaints you have are related to script not direction. Mood is more important then logic in a thriller.


129 posted on 09/28/2005 9:47:34 AM PDT by Borges
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To: gopwinsin04

The Aviator was a GREAT flick. It was refreshing to see a movie where the hero is a white male southern capitalist Republican who bashes limousine liberals like Kate Hepburn's family. One of only two Leonardo Di Caprio films I truly enjoyed.


130 posted on 09/28/2005 9:47:34 AM PDT by Clemenza (Giuliani endorsed Clinton and Cuomo)
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To: Borges

I can see that we go to movies for totally different reasons.


131 posted on 09/28/2005 9:48:15 AM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (Pray Daily For Our Troops and President Bush and the Gulf Coast.)
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To: Woman on Caroline Street

Yes, it is, is your screen name about the Jimmy Buffet song?


132 posted on 09/28/2005 9:48:32 AM PDT by Central Scrutiniser (Never pet a dog that is on fire)
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To: pabianice

Class 1:
American Beauty
Pulp Fiction
Jingle All the Way

Class 2:
Event Horizon
Bulworth

Class 3:
The Slums of Beverly Hills


133 posted on 09/28/2005 9:48:42 AM PDT by Sloth (We cannot defeat foreign enemies of the Constitution if we yield to the domestic ones.)
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To: Clemenza

You can add Face/Off to that list.


134 posted on 09/28/2005 9:49:17 AM PDT by 95 Bravo ("Freedom is not free.")
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To: americanMel

"A Mighty Wind" thank you (I think). I know it was a parody but it was a tedious parody.


135 posted on 09/28/2005 9:49:53 AM PDT by nomorelurker (wetraginhell)
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To: AxelPaulsenJr
I can see that we go to movies for totally different reasons.

Actors and writing are paramount in the theater. Cinema is primarily a director's medium (formal manipulation of light, color, space and movement).
136 posted on 09/28/2005 9:50:02 AM PDT by Borges
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To: Grand Old Partisan
The Blair Witch Project was the most profitable movie ever made.

And Titanic was the highest grossing, though both sucked awfully.

Go figure.

(And actually, I think Deep Throat made a higher return on investment than Blair Witch.)

137 posted on 09/28/2005 9:50:06 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: pabianice

Class 2: Robot Monster. I may be one of the few people alive who actually watched this in a movie theater. The "monster" was an actor in a gorilla suit and wearing a diver's helmet with TV rabbit ears glued to it! I believe they hired him because he was able to supply the costume. This vies with "Plan Nine for Earth" as the all time worst Sci Fi movie.


138 posted on 09/28/2005 9:50:13 AM PDT by Panzerlied ("We shall never surrender!")
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To: Conservomax

I have a friend who is constantly being mistaken for Bruce Campbell, the greatest B-movie actor of all time.


139 posted on 09/28/2005 9:50:33 AM PDT by Clemenza (Giuliani endorsed Clinton and Cuomo)
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To: Conservomax

I have a friend who is constantly being mistaken for Bruce Campbell, the greatest B-movie actor of all time.


140 posted on 09/28/2005 9:50:38 AM PDT by Clemenza (Giuliani endorsed Clinton and Cuomo)
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To: pabianice

The Constant Gardener was absolutely terrible.


141 posted on 09/28/2005 9:51:05 AM PDT by mel
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To: Clemenza

I LOVE THAT FLICK! My husband and I had that in common when we started to date! He picked it up used a week after we met.

"God gave me a gift. I shovel well. I shovel VERY well."

We make it a point to watch it at least every 6 months.
"Ya ya sure, bring ze brewskies"

Great. Now I gotta watch it again tonight. THanks clemenza. And I'm not even half done with my "V" series box set (teenage crush on Mark Singer) and I have to rewatch Mystery Men. (grown-up crush on William H. Macy)


142 posted on 09/28/2005 9:51:30 AM PDT by Woman on Caroline Street (Go sell crazy somewhere else. We're all stocked up here.)
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To: ianmb
Huckabees was a Class 1 for me. Stuck with it only because I had a relative who played a small part in the flick, and I wanted to see him.

Otherwise, it was a stinkeroo!

143 posted on 09/28/2005 9:51:46 AM PDT by ssaftler ("Where are the Greyhound Buses?" - Ray Nagin)
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To: dead
The Blair Witch Project - a thoroughly uninteresting home movie from an unfunded epileptic film school drop-out.

Oh man, forgot that one -- shoulda been in my Class I.

144 posted on 09/28/2005 9:51:52 AM PDT by Sloth (We cannot defeat foreign enemies of the Constitution if we yield to the domestic ones.)
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To: pabianice
Class 3: Minority Report. After 4 hours, I had to eject the disc. It was only 20 minutes into the movie, but it seemed like 4 hours. Boring, pointless, boring.
145 posted on 09/28/2005 9:52:05 AM PDT by savedbygrace ("No Monday morning quarterback has ever led a team to victory" GW Bush)
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To: Uncle Vlad

Alexander was bad indeed. I couldn't figure out Jolie's accent


146 posted on 09/28/2005 9:52:11 AM PDT by mel
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To: Celtjew Libertarian
Class 1: The Big Chill. Not so much peer pressure, but I was about to attend the University of Michigan and I felt it was a responsibility to see it -- the characters are former UM students. Luckily, I saw it on cable.


Not all movies are made for all audiences.

This movie was made for those that were about 10 years (plus) out of college, and reflecting on who they were, and what they became. With all due respect, if you were just entering college, you were looking forward still and perhaps not in the mood to reflect on what could have been.

Dealing with a friends death (especially the way this person died) will cause one to think about ones own life.

I enjoyed this movies, but then, it could just be me.

147 posted on 09/28/2005 9:52:22 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN
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To: pabianice
This movie sucked in every catagory.


148 posted on 09/28/2005 9:52:25 AM PDT by Protagoras (Call it what it is, partial delivery murder)
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To: dfwgator

Okay, I'll bite. Who's Leonard-Pith Garnell?


149 posted on 09/28/2005 9:52:27 AM PDT by Syco
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To: Clemenza

My wife commented when we saw a commercial for 2F2F that the graphics for GTA3 looked better. Never bothered to watch more than the commercial.


150 posted on 09/28/2005 9:52:35 AM PDT by discostu (When someone tries to kill you, you try to kill them right back)
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