Birthright Citizenship Under Attack

Atlanta Journal-Constitution ^ | 09/29/05 | MARY LOU PICKEL, EUNICE MOSCOSO

[Just mythoughts]

This goes to the heart of the dilemma for President Bush, there are millions of children citizens and how does one toss out the parent(s) and leave the children citizens here.

Congress is the one who has overseen an illegal invasion and it is they who need to take action, as well as be held responsible, the fact they have not and do not cannot be ignored.

[GladesGuru]

"Here is my plan,

If you have no ancestors who were in the "New World" in the year 1776, your children are not entitled to citizenship at birth."

If I may borrow a bit from your About Page, you seem to have been "Looking for intelligence in all the wrong places."

Even my first girl friend at college, whose ancestor had signed the Mayflower Compact, would find your post to be the maundering of a pro-immigration apologist.

The issue isn't the "New World", it is whether one is both a legal immigrant and has fully and completely accepted the American way of life. To a disurbing level, all too many Mexicans, Muslims, ad nauseam, do not accept the historic American way of life.

As proof of the seditious, if not outright treasonous beliefs of such immigrants I respectfully bring to your attention the La Raza racist whackos among the Mexicans in America (and among Mexican officials, too!).

And we can't ignore any longer the Muslims who are commanded by their faith to force Sharia Law on America.

Buh bye, anchor babies! And I shall refrain from expounding on the fact that all too many of the anchor baby population are what are technically known as "bastards".

And as such, they are statistically certain to be a greater burden on America.

Isn't Liberalism grand?

[gubamyster]

ping

[Carry_Okie]

Yup. WAY past time to get rid of the "anchor baby" statute.

Especially because it is unconstitutional by the original intent of the 14th Amendment.

[getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL]

No more anchor babies!!!!

[Carry_Okie]

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the states wherein they reside." -- 14th Amendment of the U.C. Constitution, 1868

Clearly you do not understand the distinction between being "subject to the jurisdiction" and being within the jurisdiction.

[Redcloak]

I think that I qualify under that plan. Some of my ancestors who were here at that time may have been fugitives from the law, however. Does that pose a problem? (It's not like the stole a lot of cattle...)

[Happy2BMe]

America's Anchor Baby Syndrome

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The UnConstitutionality of Citizenship by Birth to Non-Americans

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The 1965 Immigration Act: Anatomy of a Disaster: When will we value our national interest?

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FADE TO BROWN

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Until 1965, people admitted to the country legally had no automatic right to bring their families; skilled professionals came before wives and children.

The new law gave the top preference to unmarried adult children of US citizens but the very next preference category was spouses, minor children and unmarried adult children of immigrants.

This was a huge change.

Under the old law, only citizens had the right to sponsor immigrants.

Now, as soon as he got here, any newcomer could send for his family.

This is what produced the chain migration that has emptied entire Mexican villages.

America's Anchor Baby Syndrome

* * *

The UnConstitutionality of Citizenship by Birth to Non-Americans

* * *

The 1965 Immigration Act: Anatomy of a Disaster: When will we value our national interest?

* * *

FADE TO BROWN

* * *

Until 1965, people admitted to the country legally had no automatic right to bring their families; skilled professionals came before wives and children.

The new law gave the top preference to unmarried adult children of US citizens but the very next preference category was spouses, minor children and unmarried adult children of immigrants.

This was a huge change.

Under the old law, only citizens had the right to sponsor immigrants.

Now, as soon as he got here, any newcomer could send for his family.

This is what produced the chain migration that has emptied entire Mexican villages.

[Happy2BMe]

As the nation sleeps, watches CNN and the brush fires in California - illegal alien parents of ANCHOR BABIES CASH IN . .

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Millions of families (who are illegal aliens) like Scarlett's will be the focus of a hearing today before a U.S. House subcommittee in Washington to discuss birthright citizenship, dual citizenship and its effect on national sovereignty.

As President Bush opens the debate on a temporary worker program that could allow immigrant laborers to come into the United States, the issue of what happens to their children has come to the forefront.

[Little Ray]

Still a No.

A child should be an American citizen if one of his parents was an American citizen at the time he was born. That's it. Period.

[CatoRenasci]

If you have no ancestors who were in the "New World" in the year 1776, your children are not entitled to citizenship at birth.

Oh, you're letting too much riff-raff in that way.... why not insist that one must have ancestors who were here before Bacon's Rebellion, or before the Glorious Revolution (to keep out the royalist riff-raff). < /snarkasm>

[longtermmemmory]

Actually it was done in the 1996 immigration reform law.

At that time the objective was to make the illegals go home and take the minor child with them. When the child was 18, it could return as an adult citizen.

This is PURE AJC botching the legal reporting.

What happened post reform was that the immigration lawyers started up with the BS "hardship" return cases. Baby needs medical care, the child is ADD, or some other excuse.

You also see these "anecdote" stories when some immigration lawyer sends out a press release to try and get free PR and do PR pressure on the immigration service.

[Vigilanteman]

Rep. Nathan Deal (R-Ga.) wants to amend the Immigration and Nationality Act to limit automatic citizenship at birth to children of U.S. citizens and lawful residents. Rep. Mark Foley (R-Fla.) introduced a constitutional amendment that also would limit birthright citizenship. Such an amendment would require ratification by three-fourths of the states.

The Deal bill sounds like a reasonable solution; the Foley bill sounds like a pipe dream. Currently, there are two legal exceptions to those granted citizenship at birth: (1)Children of those born here on official diplomatic postings and (2)Children of those born to invading or occupying enemy combatants.

The simple and quick solution is to add a third category: (3)Childern of those born to those who are illegally present in the country. In many cases, there is an overlap between category (2) and (3) anyway, whether it be a Al Qaida cell or a reconquistadora La Raza type.

[CatoRenasci]

A child should be an American citizen if one of his parents was an American citizen at the time he was born. That's it. Period.

That works for me. Although I'd also be inclined to add children of green card holders as an incentive to be legal.

[CatoRenasci]

A child should be an American citizen if one of his parents was an American citizen at the time he was born. That's it. Period.

That works for me. Although I'd also be inclined to add children of green card holders as an incentive to be legal.

[subterfuge]

Did your mother come here illegally?

Where was your father born? You don't say. Go back to DU troll.

[Vigilanteman]

"The only thing that this kind of change gets you ... is stateless people, which doesn't solve any problem," said Cecilia Munoz, vice president for policy at the National Council of La Raza, a Hispanic civil rights organization.

It is not the obligation of the United States to pass laws to accomodate the convenience of illegal immigrants. This problem could be easily addressed by Mexico granting citizenship to children born abroad of Mexican parents. They seem to have no problem issuing them Consular cards.

[ctdonath2]

It's not the birthright citizenship that's the problem, it's the unconstitutional welfare "rights" hung from it.

If you're born here, you're an American - period.

Get rid of the welfare state.

[longtermmemmory]

here is how the illegals don't get citizenship will work.

The democrats and the immigration lawyer lobby will demand that illegal born children be given legal residence for "humanitarian medical birth" reasons. The illegal will not get citizenship but a green card.

The green card will then be converted to citizenship after five years.

Immigration lawyers will figure out a way to make this work for them. IOW a $2,000 case has just become a $5,000 case. (per person)

We have to think this out 10 or 20 steps ahead because eliminating the anchor babies before did not work.

(also BEWARE the "dream act"! That is another back door for illegals)

[RightWhale]

Birthright Citizenship

Anchor Baby has a stronger visceral appeal and points up the abuse of Constitutional intent. This ought to be a major issue in '06 and '08. Would require a Constitutional amendment to repair and restore intent.