Opposing lawyers share thoughts on Schiavo case

Palm Beach Daily News ^ | October 1, 2005 | Michele Dargan

[topher]

The only issue that David Gibbs can ever remember Jesse Jackson and Rush Limbaugh agreeing on was the fact that Terri Schiavo should remain alive.

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Gibbs called removing Schiavo's feeding tube "barbaric and uncivilized." Florida law does not allow the starvation of animals and the constitution does not allow the starvation of convicted murderers, he said.

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Felos said faith-based organizations, religious leaders, priests and rabbis distorted the facts in the Schiavo case.

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[clyffehall]

"I was recently told by a friend, who works at a nursing home, that the elderly were slowly being moved out of the nursing facility and being replaced by aids patients."

Your friend is mistaken. I used to be a social worker for people living with AIDS. By the time they are sick enough to require care, they rarely go to nursing homes, they are usually ready for hospice. Unfortunately, due to the incredible ignorance and bigotry around AIDS patients, many nursing homes/hospices won't accept them.

[Halls]

Look, i believe any natural occurance is an act of God for whatever reason there may be. Personally I do not know if a Hurricane hitting Florida is because of what they did to Terri, but you never know. It was only my opinion and I think that Terri's killers will be punished here on earth or after life one way or the other.

[BykrBayb]

I don't know how Free Republic survived before you showed up a couple weeks ago. Is it very stressful being the one person who knows everything? Why, you even know that a particular nursing home that wasn't named does not admit AIDs patients. How do you know that? And would you mind sharing the name of the nursing home with those of us who don't know everything?

Would you please cut to the chase, and explain your purpose for being here? Are you here to tell us that involuntary euthanasia is good, especially if the patient is tortured to death? If that's why you're here, we don't need you. There are still a handful of surviving moles and trolls who show up periodically to promote torturing disabled people to death. Granted, there aren't very many of them, because this is a conservative forum. It might be a good idea for you to read "Statement by the founder of Free Republic" (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1103363/posts ) before you clearly state your views. If you don't see anything there that you can agree with, maybe this isn't the place for you.

[Dante3]

An investigation of Jim King's handling of contributions sure is needed.

[floriduh voter]

An investigation could be started and such an investigation would lead to an indictment. I make various requests as a constituent. Go ahead and try to be a Mr. Smartypants on a Saturday night.

Greer is known as Amerika's worst judge. There a plenty of web sites with him in full nazi regalia. He's a RINO. He couldn't resist the aroma of the culture of death. Calvary Baptist Church recently gave a sermon about the "Bullies they used to have in their church... but they are gone now." No doubt, they were referring to George Greer.

It takes a real man to kill an innocent women, using the entire police force and judge friends and Fla AG Crist. How manly of all of them to murder an innocent woman and using law enforcement to make sure she'd not get one ice chip for her cracking lips and swelling tongue and she was tortured to death.

FOR SHAME.

[floriduh voter]

The people are already dead who were starved to death at a Largo nursing home. What makes you think our adult protective services would have even bothered anyway? If you understood the culture here of clearing out nursing home beds, you'd know they have taken away forks and spoons.

[floriduh voter]

I have reason to believe that Terri's foundation will be made aware of Jimmy Chambers if they haven't as of this post.

The dear man decided he wanted to live! Let him live! This is like rock v. paper except the game is now paper vs. human and the paper wins?????

[floriduh voter]

Felos blames the courts for it taking so long to kill Terri. Can you imagine? The courts were his best friend. Of course, the courts know Felos is bashing them. They are all on the same team but I guess he needs to show some false outrage at the courts who gave him everything he wanted.

http://toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051022/NEWS21/510220457/-1/NEWS

[floriduh voter]

She's actually a girl after all. I named her FEMA since she came here for Wilma and I didn't want to name a kitten Wilma. Little FEMA is safe from whatever is headed this way. Tampa Bay is STILL in the cone of uncertainty. Tampa Bay has been in it all week long.

[Dante3]

Well stated. Imagine, not allowing a mother to put water on the lips of her dying child and arresting a little boy who want to give her a drink. Who can forget that an innocent person was sentenced to a slow, torturous death? Only sociopaths would permit or defend the things done to Terri.

[floriduh voter]

The judges have no defense. This was a murder plot. I've heard Terri's mom beg to give Terri water. These are memories that will never die.

[floriduh voter]

West Virgninian paper upset that their Governor is pro-life instead of pro-abort and was sharing a dais with Bobby Schindler. That's pretty sick to be so pro-abort that you get upset that Bobby Schindler wanted Terri, his sister to be saved instead of starved and dehydrated to death.

Culture of death members: be careful what you think you believe in because it may kill you.

http://wvgazette.com/section/Editorials/200510213

[Dante3]

I agree. Many of us will never forget the horrible things done to Terri.

[8mmMauser]

It just keeps flowing...

Mercy Killing Storm Brewing

WASHINGTON — U.S. Chief Justice John Roberts presided over the Supreme Court for the first time Oct. 5, and the issue was a hot one: assisted suicide.

Consider how much assisted suicide has been in the news:

— An attorney who helped the family of Terri Schindler-Schiavo claims euthanasia is “happening every day.”

— Authorities in New Orleans are investigating hospitals and nursing homes for reports of “mercy killings” of elderly and infirm patients in the hours before Hurricane Katrina approached

8mm

[8mmMauser]

Gorgeous George feels cheated. Death dealing is not so much fun when you have to wait so long for your thrill.

blames courts for prolonging case

George Felos, the attorney who represented Mr. Schiavo in the legal tug-of-war to disconnect Terri Schiavo's feeding tube, said the judiciary contributed to the perception that the courts were broken and were unable to reach a decision in the case.

[clyffehall]

First let me say thank you for the warm welcome. It's so gratifying to exchange ideas with people who think deeply about the issues of the day. ;)

However, I do need to clear up a couple of things.

"Why, you even know that a particular nursing home that wasn't named does not admit AIDs patients. "

I invite you to read my post more carefully. Nowhere did I say this about any specific facility.

"Are you here to tell us that involuntary euthanasia is good, especially if the patient is tortured to death?"

"Involuntary euthanasia" is a very vague term. There are certainly situations in which euthanasia, defined by Dictionary.com as

" 1. The act or practice of ending the life of an individual suffering from a terminal illness or an incurable condition, as by lethal injection or the suspension of extraordinary medical treatment.

2. A quiet, painless death",

is good. In fact, euthanasia comes from two Greek words which mean "good death", so in that sense all euthanasia is good. If the patient in question is actually "tortured to death", then euthanasia was not in fact practiced, since the death was neither good or painless. I certainly do not approve of torture.

As to my "purpose for being here", in an existential sense it is to seek enlightenment and reach Nibbana. In a more mundane sense, I thought it would be enjoyable to discuss certain matters with others with a view to learning something and perhaps imparting some things.

I believe there is nothing in the founder's statement that contraindicates asking questions, clearing up misinformation, sharing knowledge, or verifying sources.

Are there any other concerns I can address for you?

[clyffehall]

"The people are already dead who were starved to death at a Largo nursing home. What makes you think our adult protective services would have even bothered anyway? If you understood the culture here of clearing out nursing home beds, you'd know they have taken away forks and spoons."

So are you saying you have no verifiable source for this assertion?

[floriduh voter]

I don't name my sources on internet forums.

[Halls]

ping myself

[floriduh voter]

But if the felon can crash airplanes with his mind, why did he need the judges in the first place? Why did he need them to bump Terri off for him and HINO? I still think somebody's going to jail, I just don't know when. It's only a perfect crime until they are caught.