Posted on 10/01/2005 7:05:29 PM PDT by blogblogginaway
Edited on 10/01/2005 7:21:56 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
The explosion happened at the courtyard near the George Lynn Cross Hall, Botany-Microbiology Building on OU's campus, which is west of the stadium, according to Sgt. Gary Robinson of the University police department. The explosion happened during the second quarter of Oklahoma's game against Kansas State. After the explosion, police set up a perimeter of several blocks and made fans exit the stadium to the east.
NORMAN -- An explosion near the University of Oklahoma's Gaylord Family-Memorial Stadium killed one person Saturday, OU officials said.
yeah, or Rahmitupurassman
THE OKLAHOMA SUICIDE BOMBER -- FNC doing a big piece on this right now - crediting "bloggers" for pushing this story!!
Its getting out folks, here we go.
Appreciate the link, and am looking over it now. This is looking more & more sinister.
That's my story and I'm stickin to it :^)
Hi there.
Please don't link to that site on this thread, or others. There apparently was a problem between the owners of that site and the owners of this site a while back and it has been requested by Jim Robinson to not link there or print their information here. This is a legal matter, and not a "cover up" type request.
Thanks!
ON THE NET...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1498540/posts?page=25#25
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1498397/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1498353/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1498353/posts#6
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1498353/posts#58
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1498353/posts?page=122#122
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1495058/posts?page=4562#4562
"Student recounts talk with worker"
Tulsa World ^ | 10/07/2005 | Mick Hinton
Posted on 10/07/2005 7:04:52 AM PDT by indcons
ARTICLE SNIPPET: "NORMAN -- An incident related by a ticket taker at Saturday's OU-Kansas State game raises questions about whether a student who died in a suicide explosion tried to gain entrance to Oklahoma Memorial Stadium.
But University of Oklahoma officials continue to deny that Joel Henry Hinrichs III tried to enter the stadium before dying about 100 yards away.
OU student Adam Smith said Thursday that he was approached as he was leaving the stadium Saturday by a ticket taker from Gate 6 who wanted to know what had happened.
Smith said he told the gate worker that there had apparently been an explosion outside the stadium and someone had been blown up.
"He gave me a wide-eyed look, and said: 'Oh, that's really strange,' " Smith said. The ticket taker recounted that a young man who looked strange and was wearing a backpack that looked full tried to get into the stadium.
However, when he was asked to open his backpack, "the guy didn't say a word and sprinted away," Smith said he was told.
Vice President of Communications Catherine Bishop said OU officials have "been assured that there is no validity to the Gate 6 rumor." Bishop said the story has been checked out by the university's athletic department.
Meanwhile, the FBI continued to have no new comments on the case Thursday."
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1494800/posts?page=1362#1362
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1494800/posts?page=1385#1385
http://michellemalkin.com/archives/003685.htm
"OKLAHOMA BOMBER UPDATE"
By Michelle Malkin · October 07, 2005 12:22 PM
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=17792_Islamic_Terrorism_in_Oklahoma
http://edition.cnn.com/2002/US/08/30/terror.hunt/
I contacted Jayna, and she is indeed on this story...She points me to her newest post at worldnetdaily..Nothing much new, but at least she's sticking with it. IMHO this story is bigger than this subway scare...
BTTT! Thanks for all of your work on this harwood!
Finally found a notice about the memorial for Hinrichs. I thought it was supposed to have been yesterday, but it's tomorrow. No obit, so I can't ascertain/confirm family member names; and no time for the memorial is shown, so I guess it's by invitation only. Probably for the best, even in CO Springs.
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http://www.legacy.com/gazette/LegacySubPage2.asp?Page=LifeStory&PersonId=15307712
http://www.legacy.com/gazette/Guestbook.asp?Page=Guestbook&PersonID=15307712
Joel H. Hinrichs III
February 2, 1984 - October 1, 2005. Joe's Memorial Service will be held Saturday, October 8th at First Lutheran Church, 1515 N. Cascade in Colorado Springs. The family asks that any memorial gifts go to the First Lutheran Church Memorial Fund.
Published in The Gazette on 10/7/2005.
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UPDATE - OKLAHOMA - Interesting Links ON THE NET...
http://www.normantranscript.com
http://www.newsok.com
http://tapscottscopydesk.blogspot.com/
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/2005/10/008463print.html
October 07, 2005
zz'Oklahoma bombing search warrant sealed"
ARTICLE SNIPPET: "This is a very strange case. He was a Muslim, he wasn't a Muslim. He went to the mosque, he didn't go to the mosque. The accounts vary so widely, depending on who is speaking, that no firm conclusions can be drawn."
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/keyword?k=oubombing
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1498857/posts
Security Tapes Lack Blast Clues
The Oklahoman ^ | 10/08/05 | Nolan Clay & Randy Ellis
Posted on 10/08/2005 12:16:38 AM PDT by LibertyRocks
ARTICLE SNIPPET: "NORMAN - The FBI has finished a review of University of Oklahoma stadium surveillance tapes and did not spot student Joel “Joe” Henry Hinrichs III trying to get inside, The Oklahoman has confirmed.
The OU junior died Oct. 1 when a bomb exploded about 100 yards from the football stadium.
Friday, a bus driver who was the last man to see Hinrichs alive released a statement saying Hinrichs appeared to be asleep on a bench when the driver walked by him just moments before the explosion."
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1498353/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1495058/posts?page=4567#4567
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1495058/posts?page=4570#4570
http://michellemalkin.com/archives/003685.htm
http://www.aim.org/guest_column/4077_0_6_0_C/
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=17792_Islamic_Terrorism_in_Oklahoma&only
http://www.thenewamerican.com/artman/publish/article_135.shtml
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&ie=UTF-8&ncl=http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/124832.php
Thanks for the compilation!
CORRECTED COPY...
UPDATE - OKLAHOMA - Interesting Links ON THE NET...
http://www.normantranscript.com
http://www.newsok.com
http://tapscottscopydesk.blogspot.com/
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/2005/10/008463print.html
October 07, 2005
"Oklahoma bombing search warrant sealed"
ARTICLE SNIPPET: "This is a very strange case. He was a Muslim, he wasn't a Muslim. He went to the mosque, he didn't go to the mosque. The accounts vary so widely, depending on who is speaking, that no firm conclusions can be drawn."
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/keyword?k=oubombing
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1498857/posts
Security Tapes Lack Blast Clues
The Oklahoman ^ | 10/08/05 | Nolan Clay & Randy Ellis
Posted on 10/08/2005 12:16:38 AM PDT by LibertyRocks
ARTICLE SNIPPET: "NORMAN - The FBI has finished a review of University of Oklahoma stadium surveillance tapes and did not spot student Joel “Joe” Henry Hinrichs III trying to get inside, The Oklahoman has confirmed.
The OU junior died Oct. 1 when a bomb exploded about 100 yards from the football stadium.
Friday, a bus driver who was the last man to see Hinrichs alive released a statement saying Hinrichs appeared to be asleep on a bench when the driver walked by him just moments before the explosion."
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1498353/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1495058/posts?page=4567#4567
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1495058/posts?page=4570#4570
http://michellemalkin.com/archives/003685.htm
http://www.aim.org/guest_column/4077_0_6_0_C/
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=17792_Islamic_Terrorism_in_Oklahoma&only
http://www.thenewamerican.com/artman/publish/article_135.shtml
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&ie=UTF-8&ncl=http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/124832.php
You're very welcome Jet.
This morning I emailed a complete outline on this story to a friend and was going to reformat it taking out my personal comments and repost here on why this is a "COVER UP". Very few witnesses/reporters have gone on the record about facts. Being a 'virgin Freeper' (my 1st post here), are there any URLs that are off limits. I'll post the beginning below and reformat the remaining 19 paragraphs after I get some sleep.
1. The FBI and Joint Terrorism Task Force are the lead agencies on the case.
2. The bomber had inquired about buying "a significant amount of ammonium nitrate, the primary ingredient used in the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing".
3. He apparently attended the same mosque as Zacarias Moussaoui.
4. His roomates had islamic fundamentalist beliefs.
5. Investigators found a huge cache of weapons in his apartment....
6. He was "bright and lonely"... just the kind of kid terrorists like to recruit.
by Mark Tapscott
UPDATED (10/08) "Cliff Notes" summary...
First, the MSM is still following the AP and Official Story as well as keeping the lid on things for the most part - Several local media outlets in both CO and OK are not buying the official line and have done their own in-depth reporting. Channel 9 and Channel 4 in particular are doing a better job than ANY of the other channels/papers. The local station in CO Springs - KKTV Ch. 11 deserves a plug here too.
Agencies investigating are reported as: Homeland Security, Joint Terrorism Task Force, FBI, Norman and OU PD, ATFE (BATF). FBI has officially taken the lead in this investigation although they are not releasing details at this time.
1.) Someone set off a bomb sometime between 7:20 and 8pm outside the OU/Kansas State game on Oct. 1, 2005. There are discrepancies on the exact time and we are working on getting a definitive time right now. The blast itself according to those at the game reportedly shook the walls of the stadium itself and the noise was heard over the crowd and gameplay. There are reports that the explosion could be heard for a fair distance from the location itself.
FReeper PhiKapMom overheard witnesses telling police that they saw "two Middle Eastern" men running from the scene. The witnesses were an Iranian (Persian) girl, and her boyfriend who is a member of the same Frat as PhiKapMom's son. PhiKapMom also states that the male witness' face was still red from the heat of the blast...
2.) One person reportedly killed. He has tentatively* been identified as 21-year-old Joel Henry Hinrichs III of Colorado Springs, a mechanical engineering student at OU. He was a member of the Triangle Fraternity. He graduated from Wasson High School. He was a National Merit Scholar although he lost that scholarship (Ch. 4 OKC)
Although his father and the MSM media (AP) and one local channel (ch.5) adamantly maintain he was not associated with muslims, and was not one himself he was living with a Pakistani roommate who is(more on him later...). Boren (OU Pres.), FBI and others are trying to play this off as an "isolated incident" and a suicide by a "mentally unstable" young man. Connecting the dots in this story does NOT lead to that conclusion.
Please note his father on 10/07 stated that Joel was "conservative" - earlier the Father said he was "apolitical". It has already been established by the CO Gazette that the last time his father saw him was in Jan. of '05 when Joel stopped by for a half-hour on his way through town on a "road trip".
It is reported that Mr. Hinrichs had a ticket to the game and attempted to enter the stadium (containing approx. 84000 people) with a backpack through at least 2 gates** before running away when asked to allow a search of his bag. (confirmed by several different media outlets). He then went and sat at a bench by the bus loading area.
Some reports state he was taking stuff out of his backpack and trying to put it on his person or fiddling with it somehow and it went off. (Many articles have stated the bomb that exploded was strapped onto the person's body).
The bus driver reported on 10/07 in an interview that when he saw Hinrichs on the bench shortly before the blast he was "bent over" and he said he assumed the person was sleeping.
Seeing as there was a large amount of explosives found in his apartment (see below) it might be assumed that this was an "accident" of some sort and he probably didn't mean to be killed... Report from KKTV Ch. 11 in Colorado Springs reporting on 10/06/05 that the bomb that went off was a "remote-controlled" device.
(* After reports of his identity and comments from his family were obtained by various media outlets in CO and OK they are now saying that there must be DNA testing and it could take a while.
**Report of attempted entry attributed to OU student Adam Smith via several news interviews. States that a gate security guard told him someone ran off after the guard tried to search the backpack he was carrying.)
3.) Five others reported injured and then the 5 injured "disappeared" from the reporting with articles only mentioning that one was killed. I personally followed up with the media outlet (CFRA.com) that was running the story with the 5 injured report. They state that the original report came from usaradio.com. After I contacted them they removed the "5 injured" statement. (I have screen shots to confirm this).
5 "accomplices" were mentioned in reporting on 10/05 out of Oklahoma (Ch. 4 or 9) - reporter says may have been involved with the bombing or taking stuff out of suspected "suicide's" apartment.
4.) Police responding with bomb squad found and detonated a second package containing what is now said to have contained materials or "parts" of a bomb (Ch. 9 - OKC - 10/06). This was originally reported as a second device by authorities (including OU Pres. Boren). Reports state this package was found in the lower-level of the nearby parking garage (early newspaper reports). This claim was later refuted by Boren (10/02).
Authorities on the scene cordoned off the area around the park bench where the explosion occurred and PADLOCKED the gates of the Stadium and did not let people leave until the end of the game. At that time they let everyone out of gates away from the crime scene.
5.) FBI cleared out apartment building on 10/02 and such and hauled away explosives deemed very volatile and exploded them on the local PDs test range before notifying others. People report hearing that explosion some 4-5 miles from the range. Also found in the apartment was Islamic papers and such (THIS REPORT OF PAPERS IS "RUMORED" at this time).
FBI also confiscated items out of Hindrich's car - clearly seen paperwork left in the car which is still parked outside his apartment complex indicate 12 plastic bottles. Reports that came out before the search warrant was sealed also state that they confiscated his hard-drive.
The FBI also took the bench in question which was replaced on Sunday (I think) - I do know it was replaced very quickly after authorities took down the tape and such.
6.) The device used and presumably stuff detonated the next day were TATP - "mother of satan" is the name the Islamic Jihadists call it. Very volatile substance. Again KKTV Ch. 11 is now reporting that this was a remote control device located on Hindrichs back.
7.) Roommate of Joel Hinrichs is named Fazal M. Cheema and is reportedly MIA at this time. There were reports he was brought back in for questioning and then released back to his apartment but this has been reported as not accurate. Ch. 5 is reporting he has "relocated" somewhere in Norman.
Reports state that an airline ticket belonging to this person for a date in the future was for a trip to Algeria (Confirmed reported on KKTV11 out of CO Springs 10/06 & local OK stations).
Cheema was taken into custody by the FBI and released along with several others in the apartment he was seen emerging from the night of October 1st.
8.) There are reports of Joel being seen at a local mosque on numerous occassions (Ch.9 or 4 reported this - can't remember which off-hand - doing this summary from memory). (THERE ARE CONFLICTING REPORTS COMING OUT ABOUT THIS "ASSERTION" ) . It is known that his roommate visited the mosque.
9.) Hinrichs attempted to buy Ammonium Nitrate several days before the blast at the local feed store (Ellison's). The owner of the feed store states that Joel came in asking to purchase a large amount. When asked why he needed it the owner of the feed store said he mumbled an answer. The owner reports that Hindrichs was dressed in a green vest with many pockets (photographer's type).
Norman PD verified today (10/06) that an undercover police officer was in the store at the time and got a license plate number. The Norman PD officer called in the tag numbers and Joel came back "clean" on paper. Norman PD held a press conference today (10/06) and stated that the officer followed procedure and would've alerted others when he returned to work on the following Monday - two days after the bombing.
10.) Jayna Davis, author of "The Third Terrorist" reported in an interview today on the (10/06) that she called the Attorney General requesting a copy of the search warrant used by the FBI. The AG stated that the file was sealed. When she asked him why - if this was a lone suicide - the file was sealed she said he became uncomfortable. She further pressed and he was forced to admit that there was still an ongoing investigation. The AG refused to speculate on whether the file would ever be opened or when.
Suffice to say that most of us who have been following this story agree that it stinks to high heaven as far as the "official line" goes.
This is especially true considering the history of Norman, OK, OKC, OU, and the presence of Hamas and Al Qaeda groups which are known to law enforcement. (Massoui(SP?), Atta, Nick Berg, et al...)
Some early reports that couldn't be necessarily relied upon (verboten site to FR & WND using their info) are now being confirmed and reported in bits and pieces by local media in CO & OK as well.
Probably the most remarkable thing about all of this is the lack of coverge in the MSM nationwide. Fox originally broke the story and then pulled it. A google search of news (on 10/03) showed only 300 or so articles the other day vs. over 6,000 for Bali and over 1600 for the NY boating accident which took place on the 2nd.
This is slowly changing over the last day or so (10/08) as several editorial writers have commented on this and the AP has released another updated article.
To get caught up on Eyewitness reports you may wish to scan through for posts from PhiKapMom on this thread (and others) - she was there and has a lot of relevant information. Rte66 has done some excellent background searching. Cindy has been posting updating links listings and, a few days ago backhoe put up a thread with a compilation of links as well.
Many other Freepers have contributed parts as always - TEAMWORK is key!!! Thanks to all who have been pinging me and freepmailing me and others with info!
For new articles and such the keyword: NORMANBOMBING is being used to tie all threads together.
I will keep editing and adding to this summary and posting on this thread probably once a day. There is more I could add tonight but I'm falling asleep! LOL
Again thanks for everyone's assistance in gathering information on this event!
LibertyRocks
UPDATE - OKLAHOMA - Interesting Links ON THE NET...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/keyword?k=oubombing
http://www.townhall.com/opinion/columns/marktapscott/2005/10/08/170668.html
"There They Go Again"
"Justice Department Clamps Down on OU Suicide Bomber Facts"
Oct 8, 2005
by Mark Tapscott
ARTICLE SNIPPET: "It was only hours after Joel Henry Hinrichs III blew himself up Oct. 1 near 84,000 football fans at the University of Oklahoma when federal officials claimed he was just a troubled young man with no links to terrorists.
But then yesterday the U.S. Department of Justice asked a federal court in Oklahoma City to seal the search warrant officials there used to get into the apartment Hinrichs’ shared with three or four students described by neighbors as “Arab-looking men.”
If Hinrichs acted alone and had no links to terrorists’ organizations or activities, why seal the search warrant? What did investigators find in Hinrichs’apartment that they don’t want the public to know?"
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1498755/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1498755/posts?page=153#153
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1498857/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1498857/posts?page=52#52
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1498857/posts?page=64#64
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1495058/posts?page=4576#4576
http://tapscottscopydesk.blogspot.com/2005/10/dear-president-boren-what-did-you-know.html
http://michellemalkin.com/archives/003685.htm
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/008463.php#comments
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=17792_Islamic_Terrorism_in_Oklahoma#comments
I would like to explain that the reason for doing it this way now first of all is because it has grown too large to keep publishing in it's entirety as a post in a thread! LOL
I have a large number of links (most to articles and posts here at FR) as well as files and images I have made available for download there. Also, it is much easier for me to continuously update it this way. I will continue to put up notification of new updates when I complete them.
Thanks again for everyone's help in collecting information!
Sincerely, LibertyRocks
PS - you may also be interested in the following separate write-ups again, at my blog:
Cover-up in the Norman Bombing Case or just a broken link?
(Details on the missing video report at KOCO Ch. 5)
New Info on Device Used in Norman Bombing
(Details and a partial transcript of the Ch. 11 KKTV report about the "remote controlled bomb")
Mysterious Report of 5 Injured in Norman Bombing
(Follow-up of the original posting of 5 injured in the blast that later disappeared from coverage.)
My local radio station KSFO AM (San Francisco) Barbara Simpson is having a guest on to speak about the OU Bomber on SUN 10/9/05 4 PM (Now).
Jayna Davis interview on KSFO lasted about an hour and she covered all that Liberty Rocks mentioned above.
Thank you Libery Rocks for posting the Cliff Notes. Appreciate that.
Jayna added some things. This is my interpretations...
1. Norman bomb squad confirmed the second package near Hinrich was explosives, yet the FBI who has full control over the investigation now says it was "inert" (dictionary = Not readily reactive with other elements; forming few or no chemical compounds.
2. Confirmed he tried to enter two gates. There was also a security guard who gave a taped interview to KWTV.
[I see new posts on security cameras. Having a cerification to install them (Local 332), depending upon how they are configured could easily miss him if entire area is not covered. Many facilities install a camera that PANs a specific field of view. Out of view, no video. Will look over and see what is being said on this.]
3. Said if he got into event possible 600 might have been killed.
4. He was clean shaven last weekend.
5. She wondered if he visted other feed stores after the 1st one turned it down and if sucessful, might have passed it on. I missed all of her answer, so this looks like something to search on.
6. Why is the national media not covering the story. Jayne figured they might have 'strapped budgets'. Locals were doing a good job initially covering this story and one from ABC in Dallas was investigating.
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