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Bill Kristol Rips Miers Nomination: W "Flinched"
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Posted on 10/03/2005 6:31:17 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest

In a just-completed interview on Fox News, Weekly Standard editor Bill Kristol made no effort to sugar coat his criticism of President Bush's selection of Harriet Miers as his Supreme Court nominee.

Among Kristol's comments:

There is no way to say she is the best-qualified.

It really looks like W, faced with pressure and criticism, "flinched."

This is an insult to the well-qualified conserative women W has appointed to the federal bench.

W could have appointed Miers to a federal judgeship before but didn't do so. Could reflect his views on her qualifications up till now.

He's spoken with a number of leading conservatives already this morning and they are disappointed.

Kristol stated more than once that he was surprised by the pick and was obviously disappointed, to the point of seeming almost angry.


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To: dennisw

Harriet Miers.... the positive case for her is that GWBush knows her well since she has been his personal lawyer when he was Texas governor. He knows she is conservative. He knows her mind. I see the Karl Rove behind this sly calculus

Little paper trail (obviously)

She's a woman (obviously) making it harder for Chucky and the gang to trash her

The unpleasant fact is GWBush's poll numbers are down, thus giving him less leverage over the Donks. Harriet Miers is as good as we can get at this time and place.


I agree with you 150%


101 posted on 10/03/2005 7:04:39 AM PDT by TTRR
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To: piperpilot

Chucky Schumer is on FNC talking about Miers right now and he seems very happy!


102 posted on 10/03/2005 7:04:44 AM PDT by hags
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To: piperpilot
According to Drudge, she also gave money to Gore.

The fact that she gave money to Al Gore when he could actually win in Tennessee is not such a terrible thing.

103 posted on 10/03/2005 7:05:13 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (I ain't got a dime, but what I got is mine. I ain't rich, but Lord I'm free.)
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To: piperpilot

I'm done sticking up for this President-what a disappointment! Bush has no b*lls-just like his DAD


104 posted on 10/03/2005 7:05:21 AM PDT by ground_fog
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To: patriciaruth

"You know the Senate would have ground to a halt if JRB or Priscilla had been appointed. "

You say this like it's a bad thing! :-)

I'm disappointed with this pick ... Edith Jones would have been far better... so would Luttig or Karen Williams.


She's another O'Connor. A politician-lawyer.

phoooey.

No sense dreaming. We had a shot at 4 Thomas/Scalia judges on the courts, and we are not getting them.


105 posted on 10/03/2005 7:05:32 AM PDT by WOSG (http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com/)
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To: JackTom

This may have been a major turning point in her life. Once you see the liberal tactics at work its a life changing experience.


106 posted on 10/03/2005 7:05:33 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: All

Very bad news:

Chuck Schumer now giving press conf and being mildly positive about Miers:

"President Bush apparently didn't nominate someone from the right wing of his party. He knows that the country doesn't agree with those far-right policiesl."

He called today a day of "some hope; a good first day."

So for those who distrust Kristol, shouldn't you in any case be concerned by Schumer's praise, particularly when coupled with similar remarks from Geraldine Ferraro?


107 posted on 10/03/2005 7:05:40 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (check out my posts on Today show bias at www.newsbusters.org)
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To: hags
That is bad news!
108 posted on 10/03/2005 7:05:53 AM PDT by hags
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
I think she probably is the best candidate, if you consider the fact that she is, first and forement, absolutely and utterly loyal to the President. If that hasn't been a hallmark of this administration, I don't know what has.
109 posted on 10/03/2005 7:06:29 AM PDT by uberPatriot
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To: ground_fog

Your remarks show me that you don't follow President Bush very well if you think he is going against his base. He knows just what he is doing.


110 posted on 10/03/2005 7:06:38 AM PDT by TTRR
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To: TomGuy

You said: FoxNews just reported that Harry Reid likes Miers.
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Biden said he "liked" Roberts, too. How did he vote?


111 posted on 10/03/2005 7:07:57 AM PDT by NCLaw441
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To: mosquitobite
It's why we have elections. Each election we go out and open a can of whoop arse on the demoncrats. We have the Presidency, the Senate and the House. This is the best the party can do? They would be setting a precedent however, if they didn't screw us, so I imagine that went into their thinking.
112 posted on 10/03/2005 7:08:14 AM PDT by conservativecorner
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Sad to say, Kristol-- a guy I thoroughly dislike-- is right.


113 posted on 10/03/2005 7:08:45 AM PDT by faithincowboys
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To: frankjr

Kristol is a Bush hater and a McCain lover...can't trust this guys judgement.


114 posted on 10/03/2005 7:09:32 AM PDT by nyconse (a)
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To: pabianice

"I suspect she's a sacrificial candidate and she knows it. She's agreed to be beated to death in Senate hearings, after which Dems will proclaim victory. Bush then nominates a true constitutionalist, and an exhausted Senate Dem club doesn't have the energy or will to oppose him/her."

Since the only people who want that to happen are conservatives ... it will never happen.

I bet she has a very easy nomination, the Dems secretly smiling that the conservatives got screwed again and knowing that it could have been a lot worse for them.


115 posted on 10/03/2005 7:09:35 AM PDT by WOSG (http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com/)
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To: Howlin
And when you don't vote Republican, you get who?

When you don't vote Republican, for now, you get a party that increases spending every year. When you vote Republican, you get the same thing, only in this case, moreso. At least Billy Boy knew how to spell "veto." When you don't vote Republican, for now, you get Ginsberg and Breyer (who may actually be a tad less liberal than Justice Brennan was.) When you vote Republican, you get Souter and Stevens and Kennedy and Blackmun and Brennan and Warren, and so forth.

Voting Republican to change the courts or to achieve any other conservative goal is falling for a lie.

We need to build a real conservative party in this country. The GOP isn't it.

116 posted on 10/03/2005 7:10:23 AM PDT by TBP
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To: piperpilot

She donated to Gore back in 1988, when he was not so bad.


117 posted on 10/03/2005 7:10:52 AM PDT by Grand Old Partisan
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To: Pondman88

"I agree with you, Roberts had his share of naysayers in the beginning as well, now he is Chief justice. I trust W on Miers."

You know nothing about how Roberts will carry out his duties. All you have is conjecture about him, so don't act like we are all happy about him now.


118 posted on 10/03/2005 7:10:52 AM PDT by webstersII
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
That settles it. If Kristol is against her , she must be a good pick.
119 posted on 10/03/2005 7:11:03 AM PDT by golfisnr1 (Democrats are like roaches, hard to get rid of.>)
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To: TBP

You have a "real" conservative party: it's the Reform Party; vote for their candidate.


120 posted on 10/03/2005 7:12:27 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Auntie Toots

What like securing our borders and cutting waste fraud and abuse???????


121 posted on 10/03/2005 7:12:57 AM PDT by chris1 ("Make the other guy die for his country" - George S. Patton)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
I don't think either Bill Kristol or Tony Snow could be classified as paleo-conservatives or radical right types. They are clearly in the conservative mainstream, more so than are Ann Coulter or Michael Savage. If both of them are disappointed at Bush's nomination of Harriet Miers, the GOP's conservative base will not be supportive of the nomination.
122 posted on 10/03/2005 7:13:16 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Its really too early for the rats to attack a female pick. They would appear irrational at this point (sorta like the freepers who will never vote for a republican ever, ever again) in taking a stand without reason and logic.

They need to be presented with something "NEW", something they had discovered while doing their due dillegence that will raise "QUESTIONS", questions which cannot be answered and then they can safely "REJECT" her because of "FEARS", that cannot be satisified.


123 posted on 10/03/2005 7:13:46 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
I'm guessing the thinking is:

1) The Democrats want to stage a fight and defeat a nominee, no matter who it is.

2) Miers is moderate enough and lacks a paper trail - i.e., the Democrats will look ridiculous if they stage the collective hissy fit they have promised their left wing.

3) If Miers gets rejected, the Democrats will have exhausted themselves, and they will end up facing a Lutting or Brown with zero credibility left to argue against them, especially since Miers' lack of judical experience is the only card they have to beat her. If they predictably overplay it, how are they going to subsequently fight off a Luttig?

4) If Miers gets confirmed anyway, Bush has managed to get a more conservative nominee onto the Court than would have seemed likely in the current political environment.

5) Stevens and Ginsburg aren't going to make it to 2008, so more openings are imminent.

124 posted on 10/03/2005 7:14:01 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (Speaking several languages is an asset; keeping your mouth shut in one is priceless.)
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To: MAD-AS-HELL

"Bush is not conservative".

Absolutely correct.


125 posted on 10/03/2005 7:14:08 AM PDT by LongsforReagan (Dick Cheney is the best elected official in this country. Period.)
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To: Sam Cree

"I'm wondering if Bush thinks or knows that he couldn't get even enough Republican support for a true constitutionalist like Brown."

That's true. With losers like Specter in there he probably knows that it just ain't gonna happen.


126 posted on 10/03/2005 7:14:15 AM PDT by webstersII
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To: Alberta's Child
Also if you look at her donations in recent years, she not only donated 100% Republicans, but she supported well known conservative Republicans like Phill Gramm or Pete Sessions (98% lifetime rating from ACU -can't get much better than that).

What I find quite interesting is that her only donation to non-Texan in recent years was a year 2000 donation to Donald Sternberg for Senate campaign. Donald Sternberg was (or I think stil is) Nebraska Attorney General who defended his State partial-birth abortion ban before the Supreme Court.

127 posted on 10/03/2005 7:15:08 AM PDT by JackTom
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To: pabianice

"I suspect she's a sacrificial candidate and she knows it. She's agreed to be beated to death in Senate hearings, after which Dems will proclaim victory."



I believe you are incorrect in this. I predict a fairly easy confirmation, with a 75-25 margin in the Senate.


128 posted on 10/03/2005 7:15:25 AM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: LongsforReagan

interesting take on pick by Hugh Hewitt...

http://www.hughhewitt.com/


129 posted on 10/03/2005 7:15:25 AM PDT by MAD-AS-HELL (Put a mirror to the face of the republican party and all you'll see is a Donkey.)
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To: TTRR

I'm Bush's base.... Harry Reid and Chuckie Schumer are happier about this pick than I am. that should tell you who this plays to.

I know the names that would have made me happy: The known Judicial conservatives that have proven themselves on the Federal bench. Luttig, Jones, Williams, etc. or even better, Janice Rogers Brown.

He didnt pick a known conservative. He picked a White House operative from Texas with no time on the Federal bench.

This was a pick to keep Arlen Specter and the mods happy, not me happy.


130 posted on 10/03/2005 7:15:28 AM PDT by WOSG (http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com/)
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To: pabianice

"I suspect she's a sacrificial candidate and she knows it. She's agreed to be beated to death in Senate hearings, after which Dems will proclaim victory. Bush then nominates a true constitutionalist, and an exhausted Senate Dem club doesn't have the energy or will to oppose him/her."

I think you may be dreaming. The Dems never give up.


131 posted on 10/03/2005 7:15:57 AM PDT by webstersII
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To: zook
She gave Gore money back in 1988. Lots of people thought he was a conservative back then.

Few thought Gore was conservative. Many did like Bentson, and wished he was the nomination. This makes me wonder if she is just another women who makes choices by emotion.

132 posted on 10/03/2005 7:16:07 AM PDT by aimhigh
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To: Echo Talon

Well, I was wrong. I had the good gut feeling President Bush would choose Louisiana Judge Edith Clement. Oops!

I have to think President Bush considers her a good conservative choice, but the best possible pick? I don't think so.

Maybe he's pulling a fast one, thinking she will be rejected in committee so he would then get to name his real choice, a staunch conservative judge that will warm all our hearts.


133 posted on 10/03/2005 7:16:49 AM PDT by YaYa123 (@ God Bless President Bush As the MSM and Democrats Seek To Destroy Him.com)
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To: dennisw

The unpleasant fact is GWBush's poll numbers are down, thus giving him less leverage over the Donks.

The numbers are down because of many on this thread obviously.


134 posted on 10/03/2005 7:17:27 AM PDT by BushisTheMan
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To: aimhigh

This makes me wonder if she is just another women who makes choices by emotion.

Idiot statement of the day.


135 posted on 10/03/2005 7:18:20 AM PDT by BushisTheMan
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To: Howlin

He is going to let the Dems win one by claiming she has no experience, then he will nominate someone with experience who he expects to pass.


136 posted on 10/03/2005 7:18:24 AM PDT by spyone
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To: Sgt_Schultze

"Just hold on. Sean Hannity will be on later this afternoon to recite the talking points he has already been faxed. His laudatory comments will include the argument to make to disaffected conservatives. I will be shocked if it goes otherwise."



LMAO! Truer words have never been spoken... good one.


137 posted on 10/03/2005 7:18:24 AM PDT by LongsforReagan (Dick Cheney is the best elected official in this country. Period.)
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To: hags; little jeremiah

The most important issue is pervert marriages, something old subway senator chuckie scummer inadvertently let slip a couple months ago in his initial reaction to the Roberts nomination.

Watch this carefully...


138 posted on 10/03/2005 7:18:58 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Howlin

The Reform Party (aka the Deformed Party) is no more conservative than either of treh two major parties. It's simply an echo of the two major parties, with perhaps somewhat cleaner ethical standards.

The conservative party in this country today is the Constitution Party. I don't agree with all its policies, but I certainly agree with most of them, and they're far closer to mainstream conservatism than any other party.


139 posted on 10/03/2005 7:20:19 AM PDT by TBP
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To: All

Bush, like his father really wants Democrats to like him. Thats what he is a nice guy who wants to be liked more than anything. This served him well as a cheerleader and frat boy. But it makes for a POOR leader.


140 posted on 10/03/2005 7:20:39 AM PDT by LongsforReagan (Dick Cheney is the best elected official in this country. Period.)
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To: JustAnotherOkie
"...there were many others with proven records that were passed over in favor of this homely looking woman."

Well, she is considerably better looking than Justice Ginsberg, I think.

141 posted on 10/03/2005 7:21:20 AM PDT by Sam Cree (absolute reality - Miami)
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To: TBP

Well, you're a poster without a party, then, aren't you?


142 posted on 10/03/2005 7:21:40 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: looky hear

He's right, Bush not only flinched, he bent over, this is disgusting, my father with many other Americans risked their lives for this country, and he can't stand up against a little pressure????? It's time to throw out the gutless moderates who want do nothing than to protect their positions and comfort. Lets not sell out our children's future for our ease! when your house is being broken into, you need a doberman, not a labrador, granted the doberman will make a mess when a burglar comes in, but at least you will still have your stuff!!!!!!!!


143 posted on 10/03/2005 7:21:58 AM PDT by Sword of the Lord ("One man with courage is a majority")
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To: MAD-AS-HELL

The fact that Bush "knows" her says nothing. Presumably, he also "knew" the pro-preferences views of Alberto Gonzales when he appointed him AG.


144 posted on 10/03/2005 7:21:58 AM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: BushisTheMan

Yeah, its our fault he sold out nearly every conservative issue not one year into re-election for which he has the conservatives mostly to thank.


145 posted on 10/03/2005 7:22:20 AM PDT by chris1 ("Make the other guy die for his country" - George S. Patton)
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To: aimhigh

Many thought Gore was a moderate to conservative Democrat. He was pro-life back then. That was his public reputation.


146 posted on 10/03/2005 7:23:40 AM PDT by zook
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
I don't trust Bill Kristol, and I don't trust Chuckie Schumer. Schumer's faint praise is no different than what he said before Roberts' nomination.

Bill Kristol never misses a chance to stick a knife in the President's back. I often think he chooses his words based on what the malcontents post on Free Republic.

Kristol, you will recall, came out and attacked the President over the China Spy Plane settlement...said that he was fnished in foreign policy and was weak. Blah, blah, blah.

Kristol is all about himself, and secondarily about attacking the Bush family. If you want me to go on for HOURS about Kristol's machinations, I will be glad to do so.

Best commment on Fox by Ron Kauffman: A lot of conservative talking heads are concerned about this nomination. Conservatives in general are willing to trust the President.

147 posted on 10/03/2005 7:24:52 AM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's son and keep him strong.)
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To: NCLaw441

"Unless you believe President Bush is not conservative enough, I see no reason not to trust him. "

You broke the code.

Bush hasn't been very conservative. He doesn't believe in smaller gov't and he certainly doesn't believe in limited gov't.

Some of us would be impressed if he would figure out how to use the veto for once, especially on an important issue like CFR.


148 posted on 10/03/2005 7:25:01 AM PDT by webstersII
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To: LongsforReagan

PING!!!!!


149 posted on 10/03/2005 7:25:22 AM PDT by Sword of the Lord ("One man with courage is a majority")
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To: uberPatriot

"she is, first and forement, absolutely and utterly loyal to the President."

That's so far down the list of qualifications for SC justice that it doesn't even register.


150 posted on 10/03/2005 7:26:59 AM PDT by webstersII
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