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Despite explosion, no security changes for OU-Texas
ESPN.com ^ | 05 Oct 2005 | AP

Posted on 10/06/2005 5:51:28 PM PDT by MikefromOhio

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To: Dumb_Ox

Interesting point -- maybe in his hurry he accidentally detonated the bomb for which all of us Sooner fans are very grateful or he was late.


81 posted on 10/06/2005 9:05:22 PM PDT by PhiKapMom
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To: Hattie
Now why would a guy who was going to commit suicide leave all that?

Maybe the materials in the apartment belonged to the roommate.

82 posted on 10/06/2005 9:47:53 PM PDT by WhatWouldReaganDo
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To: PhiKapMom

Would you happen to know where they found the 2nd bomb?

Thank you, BTW, for your info on this. Please add me to your pinglist if you have one on this topic.


83 posted on 10/06/2005 10:14:36 PM PDT by cgk (Bennett: If we are surrounded by the trivial & vicious, it is all too easy to make our peace with it)
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To: MikeinIraq
nice little beard you've got there Mister jihadi wannabe.
84 posted on 10/06/2005 11:40:18 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Understand islam understand evil - read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf see link My Page)
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To: indcons

Football in the old big eight and now the current league has been huge money creation/attractions for the Universities, the host cities and the states for over 50 years.


85 posted on 10/06/2005 11:48:41 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Jamie Gorelick is responsible for more dead Americans(9-11) than those killed in Iraq.)
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To: 2Jedismom

BTTT


87 posted on 10/07/2005 3:00:39 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: MikeinIraq
University of Oklahoma President David Boren said Tuesday that authorities continue to believe that Hinrichs did not try to get into the stadium and that he acted alone.

They also believe strongly in the toothfairy and Easter bunny....

susie

88 posted on 10/07/2005 5:38:00 AM PDT by brytlea (All you need as ID to vote in FL is your Costco card...)
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To: olde north church

Hmm I didn't think of that. But it DID occur to me, while watching wall to wall coverage of a possible bomb threat in NYC, and fuming that the media has ignored a real bombing in little Norman OK that at least part of the problem is they could care less about news that doesn't happen in their own back yard.
susie


89 posted on 10/07/2005 5:39:53 AM PDT by brytlea (All you need as ID to vote in FL is your Costco card...)
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To: indcons; PhiKapMom; hispanarepublicana; Rte66

Tulsa World's latest leftist soft-serve apologia regarding the OU bombing. Calls it a 'suicide' throughout as though that were a known fact. I'll also post their editorial from this morning's edition calling for better mental health services to help depressed people like Hinrichs.

Student recounts talk with worker

OU officials deny Joel Henry Hinrichs III ever tried to enter the stadium before the bomb went off.
NORMAN -- An incident related by a ticket taker at Saturday's OU-Kansas State game raises questions about whether a student who died in a suicide explosion tried to gain entrance to Oklahoma Memorial Stadium.

But University of Oklahoma officials continue to deny that Joel Henry Hinrichs III tried to enter the stadium before dying about 100 yards away.

OU student Adam Smith said Thursday that he was approached as he was leaving the stadium Saturday by a ticket taker from Gate 6 who wanted to know what had happened.

Smith said he told the gate worker that there had apparently been an explosion outside the stadium and someone had been blown up.

"He gave me a wide-eyed look, and said: 'Oh, that's really strange,' " Smith said. The ticket taker recounted that a young man who looked strange and was wearing a backpack that looked full tried to get into the stadium.

However, when he was asked to open his backpack, "the guy didn't say a word and sprinted away," Smith said he was told.

Vice President of Communications Catherine Bishop said OU officials have "been assured that there is no validity to the Gate 6 rumor." Bishop said the story has been checked out by the university's athletic department.

Meanwhile, the FBI continued to have no new comments on the case Thursday.

Hinrichs, a 21-year-old, third-year engineering student described by his father as a loner and a depressed and troubled son, died Saturday in what officials have called a suicide explosion that occurred during the second quarter of the OU-Kansas State football game. The explosion was sizeable enough to leave a large burned-out area surrounding a park bench in front of a campus building, prompting concern from the public about what would have happened if the blast had occurred inside the stadium amid a crowd of 84,000 fans.

Hinrichs' roommate was Fazil Cheema, a student from Pakistan. Law enforcement officials late Saturday came to the Parkview Apartments complex where the pair lived, located Cheema at a neighboring apartment, then interviewed him and about a half-dozen others, who are Muslims. However, spokesmen for the local Muslim community say Cheema himself is not a practicing Muslim.

An OU instructor in Arab languages whose native country is Egypt said Thursday that he was among the small group of Muslims handcuffed by Norman police and led to FBI agents, who questioned him for about two hours early Sunday morning.

Instructor Hossam Barakat said Norman police were "really aggressive," but FBI agents were polite and apologized for having to interview Barakat and the others gathered at one of the units of Parkview Apartments.

Hinrichs and Cheema lived in a nearby unit, and Cheema was at the neighboring apartment when police arrived. Cheema has moved from the Parkview Apartments to another apartment in Norman, acquaintances say, but Cheema cannot be reached.

Barakat and others are concerned that the OU explosion could be unfairly connected to the Muslim community. Barakat said he does not know Cheema very well. Members of the Islamic Society of Norman say that Cheema is not a Muslim and does not attend the mosque.

"Cheema was an atheist who was angry with God because he had lost much of his hearing," said Tariq Alzoubi, who noted many international students especially from the Mideast region are reluctant to talk about the case.

The Muslims who practice at the Islamic Society of Norman emphasize that they have never seen Hinrichs at the mosque.

In a letter being sent to students and parents, OU President David Boren said he has been "assured that law enforcement officials including federal officers have found no evidence of a conspiracy involving others which creates an ongoing threat to our community."

"We believe that we should not judge others or jump to conclusions about others on the basis of color, race, gender, economic status or freely exercised religious beliefs," Boren said in the letter made public Thursday.

Mick Hinton (405) 528-2465
mick.hinton@tulsaworld.com


90 posted on 10/07/2005 6:09:33 AM PDT by JustaCowgirl
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To: JustaCowgirl; PhiKapMom; hispanarepublicana; Rte66; LibertyRocks
Tulsa World's latest leftist soft-serve apologia regarding the OU bombing. Calls it a 'suicide' throughout as though that were a known fact. I'll also post their editorial from this morning's edition calling for better mental health services to help depressed people like Hinrichs.

The liberals are trying their best to quash this story. The fact that they control the media helps them a lot. These anti-national maroons should be tried for treason. Thanks for the posting, JustaCowgirl. I'll post it as a separate story if you haven't done so already.
91 posted on 10/07/2005 6:15:24 AM PDT by indcons (Please FReepmail PhiKapMom and Indcons if you want on/off the Norman Bombing ping list.)
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To: indcons

I didn't post it separately, indcons. Feel free to do it.

I can't find an online version of the editorial. I'll keep looking.

I agree totally about the liberals trying to put down this story and deny and discredit anything about it that doesn't fit their agenda.


92 posted on 10/07/2005 6:23:30 AM PDT by JustaCowgirl
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To: JustaCowgirl

If you are a print subscriber, JustaCowgil, this link may be useful: http://www.tulsaworld.com/Opinion.asp

Check out the first link ("What Ifs"?)


93 posted on 10/07/2005 6:31:12 AM PDT by indcons (Please FReepmail PhiKapMom and Indcons if you want on/off the Norman Bombing ping list.)
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To: Fred Nerks

Doogie gone bad?

94 posted on 10/07/2005 6:32:58 AM PDT by cspackler (There are 10 kinds of people in this world, those who understand binary and those who don't.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
God, I hope some "crazy" person doesn't wound or kill a future tight end NFL caliber football player. The Bears really need one some.

There, fixed it.

95 posted on 10/07/2005 8:45:26 AM PDT by BlueMondaySkipper (The quickest way of ending a war is to lose it. - George Orwell)
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To: MikeinIraq

I guess I've got to admit that Peterson is a good RB, and he could have been ours! Oh well, at least we've got Jammal Charles... This is the year! Hook 'em!


96 posted on 10/07/2005 9:26:05 AM PDT by WinOne4TheGipper (I'd never question a DUmmie's patriotism. Even after 14 years, they're still loyal to the USSR.)
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To: fatima
It's not an accident that the two aircraft which hit the World Trade Center were spaced far enough apart for the news crews to set up and record the second strike on the south tower.

I think that gives the terrorists a bit too much credit. They were after all dependent on the vageries of the Air Traffic Control system and the normal airline schedule problems.

The military would love to control science, but the very filtering process that generates career officers precludes a large degree of the independent thought necessary for inovation

What in the heck does that mean. By "science", I assume you mean technical information and such things as "troop movements", "Logistics preparations" and so forth. Those are properly controlled, and I don't know what independent thought has to do with it. They can't be completely controlled because so much technology is "dual use", with much modern military technology built on stuff designed for the civilian marketplace, and with an open society, or even a closed one, disguising the movement of large numbers of troops and equipment is pretty impossible.

BTW, you don't know many career officers, do you? They exhibit just as wide a variance in independence of thought as any other group of professionals, at least in my experience. The selection process does tend to favor "Organization Man", but the same can be said of those in upper ranks of corporate management.

Kinetic energy includes potential kinetic energy, and kinetic energy does work. Work can counteract the second law of thermodynamics or it can apply the second law of thermodynamics, but it cannot be legislated out of existence.

As an engineer, I have to say that the attempt at circumlocution via analogy has failed to communicate anything. It also has displayed a remarkable ignorate of terminology. Words mean things, and the two terms kinetic energy and potential energy describe different concepts. Kinetic energy does not include potential energy. One can be converted into the other, but they are not the same. KE is the energy contained in a moving body by virtue of its motion. PE is energy of position in a field of some kind. Water above a dam, a projectile or aircraft at some altitude, both in a gravitational field. Shoot straight up, the bullet has no (relative) PE, but lots of KE as it exits the barrel, at the highest point it has no KE, since for an instant it's not moving, but now has lots of PE because it's higher than it started. The process reverses as it falls.

97 posted on 10/07/2005 1:48:24 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: oursacredhonor
I hope you enjoyed the game as much as I did. Probably more... I missed most of the second half because it got so bad that they dropped national coverage to go to the Minnesotta-Michigan game.

Hook 'em...
98 posted on 10/08/2005 8:00:31 PM PDT by cspackler (There are 10 kinds of people in this world, those who understand binary and those who don't.)
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To: cspackler

One out of the last six ain't too bad.


99 posted on 10/09/2005 4:29:22 PM PDT by oursacredhonor
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