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Dinosaur-Bird Flap Ruffles Feathers
Yahoo!News ^ | October 10, 2005 | E.J. Mundell

Posted on 10/11/2005 4:07:11 AM PDT by mlc9852

MONDAY, Oct. 10 (HealthDay News) -- Head to the American Museum of Natural History's Web site, and you'll see the major draw this fall is a splashy exhibit on dinosaurs.

And not just any dinosaurs, but two-legged carnivorous, feathered "theropods" like the 30-inch-tall Bambiraptor -- somewhat less cuddly than its namesake.

The heyday of the theropods, which included scaly terrors like T. rex and velociraptor, stretched from the late Triassic (220 million years ago) to the late Cretaceous (65 million years ago) periods.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: bambiraptor; cretaceous; dinosaur; dinosaurs; godsgravesglyphs; hitchcock; paleontology; science; theropods; triassic; tyrannasaurusrex; velociraptor
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1 posted on 10/11/2005 4:07:12 AM PDT by mlc9852
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To: mlc9852
They are marxists.

Bambiraptor? Love their sense of humor.
I prefer to think of the chicken sandwich I had yesterday as a “dinosaur” sandwich, not a bird sandwich.
2 posted on 10/11/2005 4:12:59 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: mlc9852
Dinosaur = Bird = Chicken. ...Fried Chicken Dinosaur Tonite :)
3 posted on 10/11/2005 4:13:55 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :^)
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To: mlc9852
Dinosaurs became birds, yup, that's worth taking about, that's real news.

Of course in our polite, politically correct society we no longer laugh at the insane, we call them "Doctor" and shake our heads knowingly or is it condencendlingly, when they say, with a straight face, "Billions and billions of years ago, after the acid rained on the rock and diosaurs got tired of having diaosaurs they started branching out and had birds.

They had these birds by mating with other dinosaurs, but they had gold finches isntead of T-Rex's.

Well I guess we should thank God they haven't tried to convince us that it was birds that came first.

Could be these guys are the answer to 2 Timothy 3:1-5. And Peters scoffers.

4 posted on 10/11/2005 4:27:29 AM PDT by newsgatherer
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To: newsgatherer
diosaurs got tired of having diaosaurs they started branching out and had birds.

Your Nobel prize in genetics awaits you, sir.

5 posted on 10/11/2005 4:28:55 AM PDT by RogueIsland
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To: RogueIsland

There is a suburb of Bejing China whre you can buy reproduced, hand-crafted, authentic DinoBird fossils for $39.95 - just like the pros have.

Seriously, there are entire cities in China which survive on the cottage industry of "Fossil Reproduction" which supplies anthropologists around the world.


6 posted on 10/11/2005 4:42:22 AM PDT by joeclarke (Wrong Place, But Right Time)
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To: RogueIsland
Your Nobel prize in genetics awaits you, sir.

You know if those that believe in evolution were not so funny, they would, in all probability, be ignored. But the things they come out with are so outlandish that it is hard not to egg them on.

We went to a museum and the kids, all 5-7th grade homeschooled, had a ball with the guide, this guy did not even know he was being shown to be the fool, he just smiled and in his highhanded manners said things like. "Well, little lady, we aren’t sure exactly when the dinosaurs died, but from the fossil record, we know it had to be between 16.7 million and 100 million years ago." She said "How do you know that?" and he said "Why from the location of the fossil remains of these giant extinct animals of course."

Later he got talking about the age of the earth, so. our cute little sixth grader said: "Sir, how do you know how old that area is?" and he said "Why little lady we know it from the fossil remains we find, we know that the animals remains we find at that level all died off in 12-60 million BCE." Note the new politically correct BCE instead of BC.

The kids caught on right away that dating bones by layers and layers by bones is a bit stupid, but being the polite kids that they are, they just shook their heads up and down as you would to an imbecile.

I love those who believe in evolution, it is so much fun to watch them go in circles and defend their empty theory by attacking the Word of God and Creationist rather than taking a hard look at their theory and it's foolish assertions.

7 posted on 10/11/2005 4:44:57 AM PDT by newsgatherer
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To: newsgatherer

It's been proven over and over again!
Everybody in "Science" knows that the little dinosaurs became birds so they could get away from the big mean T-Rex's!
Why don't you believe the scientists? They're always right!


8 posted on 10/11/2005 4:48:09 AM PDT by GadareneDemoniac
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To: joeclarke
Seriously, there are entire cities in China which survive on the cottage industry of "Fossil Reproduction" which supplies anthropologists around the world.

At least they aren’t still having Australian Aborigines murdered for their skulls. For too long, back 80 years or so ago, museums in the civilized west paid serious money for Australian Aborigines skulls, claiming them to be the “missing link” racist bastards.

9 posted on 10/11/2005 4:48:19 AM PDT by newsgatherer
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To: newsgatherer; PatrickHenry
Of course in our polite, politically correct society we no longer laugh at the insane, we call them "Doctor" and shake our heads knowingly or is it condencendlingly, when they say, with a straight face, "Billions and billions of years ago, after the acid rained on the rock and diosaurs got tired of having diaosaurs they started branching out and had birds.

Dinosaurs didn't even exist "billions" of years ago. So who's the crazy one?

They had these birds by mating with other dinosaurs, but they had gold finches isntead of T-Rex's.

As is usually the case on these threads, what you don't understand about biology would fill volumes. And yet, also as usual, that doesn't stop you from unjustly ridiculing the people who *do* know the field or work in it, and have good reasons (and evidence) for their positions.

Why do you continually feel compelled to display your ignorance, and to belligerently attack those who aren't?

10 posted on 10/11/2005 4:50:05 AM PDT by Ichneumon (Certified pedantic coxcomb)
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To: GadareneDemoniac
Why don't you believe the scientists? They're always right!

I know, they like olympia snowe, teddy kennedy, susie collins and johnnie kerry are all true leginds in their won minds, why they maybe even be the missing link.

You know, For too long, back 80 years or so ago, museums in the civilized west paid serious money for Australian Aborigines skulls, claiming them to be the “missing link” racist bastards.

Maybe if we could convince these museums that kenndy, kerry, snowe, collins, biden and others of their ilk are really missing links, they, the museums would solve our social and political problems. Could be some of those hunters are still around.

11 posted on 10/11/2005 4:52:03 AM PDT by newsgatherer
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To: mlc9852

Why did the Archaeopteryx get the worm?


12 posted on 10/11/2005 4:53:45 AM PDT by Rebelbase ("There are millions of mediocre Americans, and they, too, deserve to be represented in the USSC. -RH)
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To: newsgatherer
Later he got talking about the age of the earth, so. our cute little sixth grader said: "Sir, how do you know how old that area is?" and he said "Why little lady we know it from the fossil remains we find, we know that the animals remains we find at that level all died off in 12-60 million BCE." Note the new politically correct BCE instead of BC. The kids caught on right away that dating bones by layers and layers by bones is a bit stupid

Well, that museum guide was using circular reasoning and should probably polish his presentation to avoid that. However, I think it's great that your cute little sixth grader has studied stratigraphy to the point where he is able to publish monographs critiquing the current state of the field. Look forward to reading the abstracts.

13 posted on 10/11/2005 4:53:58 AM PDT by RogueIsland
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To: Ichneumon
Dinosaurs didn't even exist "billions" of years ago. So who's the crazy one?

Are you sure? Where you there? How do you know?

14 posted on 10/11/2005 4:54:17 AM PDT by newsgatherer
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To: Ichneumon
Way back in post seven, I said this: I love those who believe in evolution, it is so much fun to watch them go in circles and defend their empty theory by attacking the Word of God and Creationist rather than taking a hard look at their theory and it's foolish assertions. Thanks for proving me right.
15 posted on 10/11/2005 4:56:51 AM PDT by newsgatherer
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To: RogueIsland
Well, that museum guide was using circular reasoning and should probably polish his presentation to avoid that. However, I think it's great that your cute little sixth grader has studied stratigraphy to the point where he is able to publish monographs critiquing the current state of the field. Look forward to reading the abstracts.

Glad to see you read so carefully what I had to say, oops, guess you didn't, "little lady" sure isn't a "he".

But, I agree the museum guide needs to polish up and update his feeble knowledge of evolution, but then again who can keep up with the every changing ‘facts’ of evolution, one day millions, the next day billions, the day after birds from dinosaurs, then it dinosaurs from birds.

Thank God the Word of God hasn't changed, we Christians are way to dumb to keep up with the changes the religion of evolution demands of it's servants.

16 posted on 10/11/2005 5:03:03 AM PDT by newsgatherer
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To: newsgatherer; RogueIsland; PatrickHenry; GadareneDemoniac; mlc9852
You know if those that believe in evolution were not so funny, they would, in all probability, be ignored. But the things they come out with are so outlandish that it is hard not to egg them on.

People always laugh at stuff they don't understand. You're a prime example.

We went to a museum and the kids, all 5-7th grade homeschooled, had a ball with the guide, this guy did not even know he was being shown to be the fool, he just smiled and in his highhanded manners said things like. "Well, little lady, we aren’t sure exactly when the dinosaurs died, but from the fossil record, we know it had to be between 16.7 million and 100 million years ago."

Is there any particular reason you're blatantly lying? You're obviously making things up that never happened. No museum guide anywhere would every be so stupid as to say that the dinosaurs died out "between 16.7 and 100 million years ago". Even most gradeschool kids know that the dinosaurs died out 65 million years ago, at the end of the Cretaceous period. Please don't post your fantasies as if they were actual anecdotes. Bearing false witness is a sin.

She said "How do you know that?" and he said "Why from the location of the fossil remains of these giant extinct animals of course."

Yet again, your own ignorance reveals your dishonest lie. No museum guide would ever say *that*, either, because that's not how dating is done. That's how *creationists* falsely *think* it's done (all their propaganda pamphlets are filled with that goofy but false claim), so you obviously didn't actually hear that from a museum guide, you made it up based on what you have read from your creationist idols. Shame on you for lying.

Later he got talking about the age of the earth, so. our cute little sixth grader said: "Sir, how do you know how old that area is?" and he said "Why little lady we know it from the fossil remains we find, we know that the animals remains we find at that level all died off in 12-60 million BCE."

Again, horse manure. Stop telling fantasy tales that "prove" the standard creationist horse manure, but which bears no resemblance to how things are *actually* done in science.

The kids caught on right away that dating bones by layers and layers by bones is a bit stupid,

It would be if that's how it's done, but it's not. Thanks for lying in order to promulgate a popular piece of creationist bull***t. I don't know why you creationists lie so baldly and unashamedly so often, but you do -- I've seen you guys do it more times than I can count. Please explain how you manage to square such behavior with your alleged Christian principles.

There are many examples of creationists making this false claim (that fossils are dated by strata and that strata are dated by fossils, in a case of circular reasoning). For example: Morris, Henry M., 1974. Scientific Creationism, Green Forest, AR: Master Books, pp. 95-96, 136.

It is, however, horse crap. See for example: Radiometric Dating and the Geological Time Scale: Circular Reasoning or Reliable Tools? .

No museum guide would ever make the mistake of repeating creationist propaganda as if it were actually how the museum and/or scientists conducted dating tests. Newsgatherer is lying to you -- like so many other creationists.

but being the polite kids that they are, they just shook their heads up and down as you would to an imbecile.

The only "imbecile" here is the guy who makes up stories and presents them as if they really happened, and in the process demonstrates his dishonesty and ignorance of how scientists actually do things. That imbecile would be you.

I love those who believe in evolution, it is so much fun to watch them go in circles and defend their empty theory by attacking the Word of God and Creationist rather than taking a hard look at their theory and it's foolish assertions.

Which "foolish assertions" would those be? Be specific.

We "attack creationism" because it richly deserves to be, as you have so well demonstrated. It's a pack of lies, propaganda, and false attacks on valid science. It's Michael Moore tactics, and deserves the exact same kind of scorn and exposure.

Meanwhile, it's the creationists who have such an "empty theory" that they have to lie about it in order to falsely and dishonestly attack actual science. And no one who actually cared about the "Word of God" would be as grossly dishonest and deceitful as you are. So who are you *really* following?

17 posted on 10/11/2005 5:08:02 AM PDT by Ichneumon (Certified pedantic coxcomb)
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To: mlc9852
There's no plausible way for something which can't fly to evolve into something that does. It would have been observed in recorded history if it was possible.

Similarly with fish developing legs and feet and walking. With all the tens of millions of fish we pull out of the ocean every year, if that could happen, we'd see it. Darwinism demands that this stuff be happening all the time, everywhere, and not just once upon a time, every fifty million years or so.

18 posted on 10/11/2005 5:08:26 AM PDT by tamalejoe
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To: newsgatherer
[Dinosaurs didn't even exist "billions" of years ago. So who's the crazy one?]

Are you sure?

Yes I am.

Where you there?

No, but I don't need to be in order to determine ages.

How do you know?

Radiometric Dating: A Christian Perspective

Radiometric Dating and the Geological Time Scale: Circular Reasoning or Reliable Tools?

Isochron Dating

The Age of the Earth

19 posted on 10/11/2005 5:12:19 AM PDT by Ichneumon (Certified pedantic coxcomb)
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To: newsgatherer
Way back in post seven, I said this: I love those who believe in evolution, it is so much fun to watch them go in circles and defend their empty theory by attacking the Word of God and Creationist rather than taking a hard look at their theory and it's foolish assertions. Thanks for proving me right.

You're lying again. Nowhere have I "attacked the Word of God". Retract your slur, or I will take the matter up with the moderators.

And I have indeed "taken a hard look at the theory" for the past thirty years. It holds up incredibly well, and is massively supported by mountains of evidence. It has passed every validation test and every potential falsification test, thousands of times over. Deal with it, and stop behaving like such a jackass.

Finally, I have hardly "proven you right", because I have demonstrated and documented how very wrong you are.

20 posted on 10/11/2005 5:15:01 AM PDT by Ichneumon (Certified pedantic coxcomb)
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