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What Is To Be Done?. . . about the Harriet Miers nomination.
Weekly Standard ^ | 10/17/2005 | William Kristol

Posted on 10/12/2005 3:09:32 PM PDT by indcons

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To: Don'tMessWithTexas
Would you be willing to take an oath that you will never again refer to a Kristol article or have anything good to say about anything that Kristol has to say?

I could do that. Bill Kristol resents the hell out of not being invited to have some sort of "insider role" in the Bush administration. He fancies himself as a GOP seer, what with his insight into geopolitics (he wants the US to impose Democracy everywhere we can) and his keen political advice (Kristol thought Bush ought to pick Colin Powell for his VP choice back in 2000).

So, yeah. I could go through the rest of my life and never have anything good to say about Bill Kristol again.

21 posted on 10/12/2005 3:31:13 PM PDT by sinkspur (If you're not willing to give Harriett Miers a hearing, I don't give a damn what you think.)
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To: indcons; Hushpuppie

Prejudging before the facts are all is a quality that we would IMPEACH a sitting judge for...why should we allow it before we hear all the facts?

Let the period of discovey work and the hearings take place. Then let the emails rain and phone calls rain down on your Senators for a fair up or down vote. It she blows it...and is not confirmed, the President can nominate someone else.

Of course the furor over the next nominate is already waiting in the wings. I can't imagine many people would even accept the nomination because of all the BS that they have to take. Especially if they take it and don't get confirmed!

Bill Kristol is no great sage...just another opinion with a taller flag pole. Remember he supported a loser in McCain...so his instinct and judgment are not infallible.


22 posted on 10/12/2005 3:32:08 PM PDT by Colonial Warrior ("I've entered the snapdragon part of my life....Part of me has snapped...the rest is draggin'.")
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To: indcons
Actually, the best scenario is for the Democrats to threaten to fight the nomination via filibuster (or filibuster) because "she has no judicial experience." Bush can then withdraw her without making it look like it was his mistake, but rather their fault. Then he could then replace her with a 100% real conservative with judicial experience. The Dems, having already played their veto card would now be unsuccesfull in an attempt to filibuster the new pick. Republicans would have just cause (in public opinion) for the nuclear option or at least the threat of it. Everyone wins, except the Dims.
23 posted on 10/12/2005 3:33:30 PM PDT by right-wingin_It
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To: WinOne4TheGipper

Finger slip:

Annoring=Annoying.


24 posted on 10/12/2005 3:33:39 PM PDT by WinOne4TheGipper (I'd never question a DUmmie's patriotism. Even after 14 years, they're still loyal to the USSR.)
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To: indcons

But this is a moment where it is more important that conservatives stand for core principles than that they stand with the president.




Perfectly said. I sometimes believe that if the President decided to enact every plank of the DNC platform, too many Repubs elected and non-elected would kiss his @$$ and follow along because he is George W. Bush, President. And to hell with conservative principles.


25 posted on 10/12/2005 3:33:59 PM PDT by trubluolyguy (I am conservative. That is NOT the same thing as Republican. Don't place party over principle.)
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To: sinkspur
What reasoned discourse. What lofty logic. What dispassionate analysis. What cerebral rumination.

Or not.
26 posted on 10/12/2005 3:34:04 PM PDT by jobim
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham
I'd take Big Blue over Harriet Miers any day of the week.

Your side has been reduced to idiotic, unserious comments. You got nothing.

27 posted on 10/12/2005 3:34:42 PM PDT by ez (W. quells 2 consecutive filibusters and gets 2 religious people on the court. Bravo!!)
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To: indcons

"There has been an extraordinarily energetic and vigorous debate among conservatives"

You mean like calling anyone who disagrees w/ Bush's pick a DUmmie troll?


28 posted on 10/12/2005 3:35:15 PM PDT by Pessimist
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To: mom-7
If we trusted President Bush enough to vote for him, why can we not trust his nomination of Miss Miers?

Because his nomination of Miss Miers shows we shouldn't have trusted him enough to vote for him?

29 posted on 10/12/2005 3:35:40 PM PDT by Grut
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To: trubluolyguy
Nothing is to be done!

She is the most qualified!

Bush necessarily knows more than you.

30 posted on 10/12/2005 3:36:05 PM PDT by ez (W. quells 2 consecutive filibusters and gets 2 religious people on the court. Bravo!!)
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To: WinOne4TheGipper

Bad spelling is anoring too.


31 posted on 10/12/2005 3:36:21 PM PDT by sine_nomine (CBS' Mary Mapes: "It dawned on me that I was present at the birth of a political jihad.")
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To: indcons
But the reaction of conservatives to this deeply disheartening move by a president they otherwise support and admire has been impressive. There has been an extraordinarily energetic and vigorous debate among conservatives as to what stance to take towards the Miers nomination, a debate that does the conservative movement proud.

Agree 100%. This debate has revived and strengthened a conservative movement previously listless and disspirited because it was torn between dismay over GW's unconservative ways and its deep sense of loyalty to someone who owes his election and re-election to his overtures to conservatives. It has not hurt the conservative movement at all.

32 posted on 10/12/2005 3:36:27 PM PDT by Map Kernow ("I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing" ---Thomas Jefferson)
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To: mom-7

She has no judicial experience, you do not have to have experience to be nominated to the Supreme Court.




So if you ever need neurosurgery, are you going to go out of your way to request a podiatrist perform it?


33 posted on 10/12/2005 3:37:03 PM PDT by trubluolyguy (I am conservative. That is NOT the same thing as Republican. Don't place party over principle.)
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To: sinkspur

How about taking an oath never to rely on anything mentioned by anyone else that does not support Miers? Why not cry out for a purge of FR and the party of anyone who is against Harriet?


34 posted on 10/12/2005 3:37:29 PM PDT by Don'tMessWithTexas
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To: q_an_a

"Do you think Mc Cain would ahve been as conservative as GWB?"

Actually, I'm not a McCain supporter, but in retrospect, Yeah. I think he would have.


35 posted on 10/12/2005 3:39:30 PM PDT by Pessimist
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To: trubluolyguy

But he's not. He appointed a judge, and I think he's done pretty damned well at that in the past, so maybe you might give, or maybe just loan, him the benefit of the doubt? Or is that too much to ask?


36 posted on 10/12/2005 3:39:33 PM PDT by WinOne4TheGipper (I'd never question a DUmmie's patriotism. Even after 14 years, they're still loyal to the USSR.)
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To: indcons

Kristol is a McCain loving,elitist, sexist Bush hater...to heck with him-no interest. You are not President Kristol- run for the Presidency and if you win you get to pick the judges.


37 posted on 10/12/2005 3:39:48 PM PDT by nyconse (a)
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To: right-wingin_It

Unfortunately, I don't think the Dims will threaten a fillibuster. The list of Dims supporting the Miers nomination reads like the who's who? of the liberal movement - Susan Faludi, Harry Reid, and Feinstein among others. The Dims are waiting for this nomination to implode.


38 posted on 10/12/2005 3:39:52 PM PDT by indcons (Let the Arabs take care of their jihadi brothers this time around (re: Paki earthquake))
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To: trubluolyguy
I sometimes believe that if the President decided to enact every plank of the DNC platform, too many Repubs elected and non-elected would kiss his @$$ and follow along because he is George W. Bush, President.

I think from now I'll restrict myself to echoing your side's sillier statements.

39 posted on 10/12/2005 3:40:06 PM PDT by ez (W. quells 2 consecutive filibusters and gets 2 religious people on the court. Bravo!!)
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To: WinOne4TheGipper

Or is that too much to ask?




Have you seen the border?

How do ya like that spending in Washington?

Campaign Finance Reform anyone?

Ted Kennedy wrote the education bill.


Yes. Yes it is too much to ask.


40 posted on 10/12/2005 3:41:23 PM PDT by trubluolyguy (I am conservative. That is NOT the same thing as Republican. Don't place party over principle.)
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