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The trouble with men
Spectator ^ | Issue: 15 October 2005 | Molly Watson

Posted on 10/13/2005 7:02:45 AM PDT by Eurotwit

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1 posted on 10/13/2005 7:02:46 AM PDT by Eurotwit
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"How many young women do you know, happily married or the equivalent, who are wilfully refusing to have children now at the risk of running the gauntlet of IVF in five years time?"

I guess Molly Watson would be surprised to hear this answer ..... quite a few.


2 posted on 10/13/2005 7:08:18 AM PDT by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR) [there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: Eurotwit; Campion
we’re only interested in having babies if they are fathered by men we love and who are going to stick around and enjoy bringing the little brutes up.

What a loving attitude. I'm sure she'd be a wonderful mother. (/retch)

(More of this stuff :-)

3 posted on 10/13/2005 7:09:09 AM PDT by Tax-chick (When bad things happen, conservatives get over it!)
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To: nuconvert
happily married or the equivalent,

What's the "equivalent" of happily married? Married "in a state of tolerant resignation"?

If she thinks any form of unmarried relationship is "equivalent," she's on Planet Zongo.

4 posted on 10/13/2005 7:10:47 AM PDT by Tax-chick (When bad things happen, conservatives get over it!)
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To: Eurotwit
The situation: There are many women like this out there.
The problem: Sensible men have no desire to marry a woman like this.
The solution: Modern notions of how a woman should behave need to change. The whole "shrill-as-a-harpy" thing is passe.
5 posted on 10/13/2005 7:11:11 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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"What can Dr Bewley and co. do to get them ready for fatherhood before their mid-forties?"

How about you try not to be such a needy biatch? You're already laying the ground work to whine about how your career has suffered and how you change more of the diapers. Yeah, sign me right up. NOT.


6 posted on 10/13/2005 7:12:41 AM PDT by mad puppy ( The Southern border needs to be a MAJOR issue in 2006 and 2008)
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can you imagine spending a week with doc bewley? man oh man alive, even if this woman was playboy material, she would get tiresome after a couple of days, let alone every day as in marriage. lots of doc bewleys out there, good thing is many are not reproducing, thank god


7 posted on 10/13/2005 7:18:26 AM PDT by son of caesar (son of caesar)
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To: nuconvert

In another 10-15 years she will sound just like Maureen Dowd does now -- bitter, resentful, self-pitying, blaming everyone but herself for where she is in life -- she will be absolutely pathetic.


8 posted on 10/13/2005 7:19:30 AM PDT by webstersII
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I wondered whether women will be the only losers in this epidemic of delayed pregnancies. Isn’t it possible that, just as I have no interest in a relationship with someone significantly older than me, when the men of my generation get to the dark side of 40 they’ll tire of dating girls who are now revising for their GCSEs?

LOL. Uh, no?

9 posted on 10/13/2005 7:19:41 AM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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I don't know many men who would want to marry an old, bitter and quite obvious man hating woman...
10 posted on 10/13/2005 7:20:11 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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To: Eurotwit

Women...are you willing to submit to your husband? If not, don't get married.

Men.....are you willing to give up your life for your marriage? If not, don't get married.


11 posted on 10/13/2005 7:22:29 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Eurotwit

Must be the moon, but every thread today has me thinking...

"Seperate continents for each gender,
little bridge for visits...

Raise kids together,
kids grow up,
split, and THEN live a happy life!"

Geez,
And people wonder why I think God is sadistic ;)


12 posted on 10/13/2005 7:22:53 AM PDT by najida (The internet is for kids grown up-- Where else could you have 10,000 imaginary friends?)
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Gosh, that's sad. Can those of us who actually get along with our spouse and can't imagine life without him or her have a continent for ourselves (and our numerous kids)?


13 posted on 10/13/2005 7:25:44 AM PDT by Campion (Truth is not determined by a majority vote -- Pope Benedict XVI)
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To: Campion

Only if you'll do the laundry.


14 posted on 10/13/2005 7:27:29 AM PDT by Tax-chick (When bad things happen, conservatives get over it!)
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To: Campion

Yes,
but my bet is it would be an itty bitty continent...

Understand, the venom seems to come from both sides on these threads... I'm just amazed that the human race has made it this far! ;)


15 posted on 10/13/2005 7:27:43 AM PDT by najida (The internet is for kids grown up-- Where else could you have 10,000 imaginary friends?)
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To: Eurotwit

She didn't mention women being selfish, did she?


16 posted on 10/13/2005 7:28:34 AM PDT by Finalapproach29er (Americans need to remember Osama's "strong horse" -"weak horse" analogy. Let's stop acting weak.)
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To: 2banana

Over the past 100 years, men have gradually, but inexorably, given females total freedom and independence. Granting females political power and financial independence ultimately put them in control of marriage and family, the institutions of our civilization which governing the propogation and upbringing of the human species.

That has created a monumental catastrophe and unfathomable destruction. How do we men now get the toothpaste back in the tube?

DA740


17 posted on 10/13/2005 7:29:26 AM PDT by DA740
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To: Eurotwit

Molly and her father were obviously not close. Booo Hooo


18 posted on 10/13/2005 7:29:37 AM PDT by DogBarkTree
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To: 2banana

Over the past 100 years, men have gradually, but inexorably, given females total freedom and independence. Granting females political power and financial independence ultimately put them in control of marriage and family, the institutions of our civilization which governing the propogation and upbringing of the human species.

That has created a monumental catastrophe and unfathomable destruction. How do we men now get the toothpaste back in the tube?

DA740


19 posted on 10/13/2005 7:29:55 AM PDT by DA740
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To: najida; Campion

My pal (and fellow belly-dancer) Najida is a bit of a cynic, but FR does that to all of us sometimes :-).

One theory I've developed recently is that the best way to find out what a potential spouse is really like would be to "meet" him or her on FR, like Petronski and Cyborg, or HairoftheDog and Ecurbh. People are very straightforward about what they actually think on all kinds of issues, not like in Real Life.

That nice woman at the office could be the bride of your dreams, or she could have clobbered her boyfriend with a shovel before breakfast and be planning to dispose of the remains after her shift. You'll probably never know ... but on FR, you'd know what she's really like!


20 posted on 10/13/2005 7:32:23 AM PDT by Tax-chick (When bad things happen, conservatives get over it!)
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