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A Polling Free-Fall Among Blacks (Blanco Sabotage of a whole race against Gop)
washington post ^ | October 13, 2005 | Dan Fromkin

Posted on 10/13/2005 3:17:33 PM PDT by johnmecainrino

A Polling Free-Fall Among Blacks In what may turn out to be one of the biggest free-falls in the history of presidential polling, President Bush's job-approval rating among African Americans has dropped to 2 percent, according to a new NBC/Wall Street Journal poll. The drop among blacks drove Bush's overall job approval ratings to an all-time low of 39 percent in this poll. By comparison, 45 percent of whites and 36 percent of Hispanics approve of the job Bush is doing.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: blanco; katrina
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For everyone in favor of state rights Blanco sabatoged a whole race of people against republicans for a generation.

Blanco blocked aid from the red cross and salvation army and then came out screaming blaming the feds.

Blacks see those pictures and the blacks starving and blame Bush. But in truth it was Blanco who blocked food and water to the people at the convention center. She wanted people out of there and felt food and water would keep them there. So she let them go hungry.

You had a democrat governor in her actions turn a whole race against a national party.

Bush needed to come out screaming telling the american people that it was Blanco that ordered the red cross and salvation army not to come in. The white house communications office is a joke.

Blacks are against the dems on gay marraige. Bush has hired many african americans to his cabinet. Bush has even appointed supreme court justices that will uphold affirmative action. Blacks are more in favor of some business policies with the gop than the dems.

All the work the Gop did to persuade blacks thrown out by a fat ugly democrat governor.

1 posted on 10/13/2005 3:17:35 PM PDT by johnmecainrino
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To: johnmecainrino

Blanco had to have a lot of MSM help. It's slander.


2 posted on 10/13/2005 3:20:36 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (The sacrifices of God are a broken and contrite heart. Ps. 51:17)
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To: johnmecainrino

Does this mean that the hapless LA GOP will be too afraid to offer a candidate against Blanco in 2007?


3 posted on 10/13/2005 3:21:57 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Cowardice is forever!)
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To: johnmecainrino
You believe anything printed in the ComPost, especially a poll?

You've been here long enough to know better.
4 posted on 10/13/2005 3:23:11 PM PDT by decal (Mother Nature and Real Life are conservatives; the Progs have never figured this out.)
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To: johnmecainrino

Get used to this BS. We will have polls on everything about Bush and the GOP. The feeding frenzy of the MSM will go on and on until they overplay their hands just like all leftists eventually do.


5 posted on 10/13/2005 3:23:44 PM PDT by PISANO (We will not tire......We will not falter.......We will NOT FAIL!!! .........GW Bush [Oct 2001])
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To: johnmecainrino
LOL, who cares. Bush, Republicans, and conservatives, cannot control Oprah, Farrakhan, Nagin, the Black caucus, Black radio, and Black rappers.

If they believe conspirazoid crap, they are hopeless.
6 posted on 10/13/2005 3:24:21 PM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: johnmecainrino

The MSM (including FauxNEWS) did a bang up job here...

I don't know what's worse... the blantant lies spewed from the the MSM, or the SHEEPLE that actually fall for it...


7 posted on 10/13/2005 3:24:34 PM PDT by fhlh (Polls are for strippers and liberal spin.)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

Now I know why Blanco blocked Jeb Bush's offer of Florida National Guard days before the hurricane.

When the American people believe the President is responsible for everything you have a situation like this.


Either change the laws and allow the President to be able to make the decisions if he is going to take the heat or expect more of this.

There is a disconnect between the American people and understanding of our laws. Bush had very little power in Louisiana. The commander and chief of that state is Blanco.

If the laws are going to stay the same then the President should be called commander and chief of ourseas troops. Because people believe that he is the commander and chief on the ground in Louisiana when it is really Blanco.

Federal troops couldn't go into New Orleans. How can you send in troops where there is violence when they have no law enforcement power. They become sitting ducks.


8 posted on 10/13/2005 3:25:57 PM PDT by johnmecainrino
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To: johnmecainrino

it wouldn't have been so bad if he hadn't blew up the levee
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1501946/posts


9 posted on 10/13/2005 3:26:18 PM PDT by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: johnmecainrino
Uh, how many Freepers told me to settle down when I said you don't allow the President to be called a racist murderer (literally) by the dems without responding? Black Americans are total suckers for this race baiting and the dems know it. So they said Bush let blacks die because of their color (reality being anyone dead is the fault of the dems before Bush) and the republicans were mum and acted defensive and now American blacks believe that a pretty decent guy like Bush wants them dead.

It's scary but so is the fact the only notable defense of the President came from a liberal republican, Peter King of NY.

This is the only way dems win elections, and they know it.

10 posted on 10/13/2005 3:26:42 PM PDT by Williams
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To: Williams
"36 percent of Hispanics approve of the job Bush is doing.

Guess it didn't pay to pander to that community and allow illegals to take over this country.

11 posted on 10/13/2005 3:29:36 PM PDT by stopem
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To: johnmecainrino

Fine..Let Blanco take care of them. Feed and clothe them.
Provide shelter for them. Not one thin dime of Federal money for them, that would kiss the asses of their DemoKlan slavemasters and their porch StepnFetchits like
Dirty Jessie, Nagin, Maxine Waters and the rest, and
call the people who've done most of the law passing
and saving of their asses szince before the Civil War
the "bad" ones...talk about biting the hands that feed you, and licking the boots of your abusers...

What a load of crap! They *deserve* the crap that they are
gonna get, while Blanco and Landrieu and alll the frest of their criminal racist cabal get fat off of all the money they steal, that should have been going to help *them*
(black americans)...Seems like they, (the Dims) *did*
learn something from Saddam..Never steal anything small.

I am thouroughly disgusted


12 posted on 10/13/2005 3:29:57 PM PDT by NickatNite2003
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To: johnmecainrino

The blacks that support the President are not going to leave him because of the BS in New Orleans. They are not the kind that fall for the race baiting, lying, and other crap being spewed by Calypso Louie, Nagin, and Blanco. They are the ones who have risen above the level of the plantation and aren't going to look back.


13 posted on 10/13/2005 3:30:41 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Cindy Sheehan, Pat Buchanan, John Conyers, and David Duke Are Just Different Sides of the Same Coin.)
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To: COEXERJ145

BFD


14 posted on 10/13/2005 3:33:39 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Nothing fills the void of a passing hurricane better than government)
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To: johnmecainrino



I trust the real 'poll' done by black evacuees in Houston by I think some ABC reporter. Black after black NO evacuee blamed Blanco and Nagin.


15 posted on 10/13/2005 3:36:10 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: AmericaUnited

Exactly


16 posted on 10/13/2005 3:39:02 PM PDT by CajunConservative
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To: johnmecainrino
"All the work the Gop did to persuade blacks thrown out by a fat ugly democrat governor."

Bad assumptions made even easier by the Repubs who just do not want to fight the Dems on their turf. . .He knew they would go there; grab their soundbite and run. . .

17 posted on 10/13/2005 3:44:28 PM PDT by cricket (No Freedom - No Peace)
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To: johnmecainrino
a p.s. oops . . .He knew they would go there; grab their soundbite and run. . .

That would be President Bush; when he accepted 'responsibility' for the Louisana generated fiasco. . .

18 posted on 10/13/2005 3:48:08 PM PDT by cricket (No Freedom - No Peace)
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To: johnmecainrino

Sadly, this type of politics will continue as long as Democrats remain a vital political party. There is no low that is low enough for them anymore. Nothing short of God or death will stop them.


19 posted on 10/13/2005 3:51:36 PM PDT by KStorm (The lib idea of national security is thus: which fox do we want to guard us hens?)
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To: johnmecainrino
Well, the headline caught my attention...but it didn't seem to match with the unscripted surprise ABC received from the black family from New Orleans after Bush's speech...they clearly had their local & state democratic leaders as the targets of their totally justified wrath.

Remembering that interview, and seeing the source as the Washington Post, motivated me to read the article...which states This latest poll included 807 people nationwide, and only 89 blacks.

Laughable statistically. Unfortunately, the MSM will probably be "discussing" the issue very seriously. Makes me wonder what "internal" data the liberal media has been collecting which shows an increased number of black individuals moving towards Conservative candidates....also interesting how this "poll" appears shortly after speculation last week about the "black" vote if Rice becomes the Republican Presidential candidate in 2008....

20 posted on 10/13/2005 3:54:17 PM PDT by SergeantsLady (I support my soldier by supporting the mission he believes in...)
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To: johnmecainrino

And they say Cristians are "easily led." Pikers compared to the blacks in the US.


21 posted on 10/13/2005 3:54:40 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty ( 2005, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
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To: johnmecainrino

Think about it. If you are inclined to believe that Bush blew up the levees, and if you believe that Bush (and not Blanco) withheld help from Louisiana, you weren't going to vote Republican anyway.

People who vote Republican, white, black, or indifferent, do so against all odds, they do so in spite of the Washington Post and the dominant media. This has always been true and it is still true.

I would say that it is Blanco who will lose her job next term, although she will probably lose it to another Democrat. Her days as a politician are numbered. Nagin will not be reelected.

And the folks who rioted in the streets after the hurricane weren't the kind to reliably turn up at the polls for anyone, but if they do vote, they'll likely be voting in Texas next time.


22 posted on 10/13/2005 3:55:21 PM PDT by marron
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To: johnmecainrino
Why exactly is it that when interviewed all those blacks that appeared in front of of the dome and an open camera no longer wanted to return to N.O.
Recall the ones that already had plans to start a new life in Texas.
So, was it really heaven in Louisiana for blacks under Blanco and "their" Mayor Naagi.
Looks like the Reverend appeared just in time on the scene to shore and patch things up.
Who needs polls with such leadership, they're these long lasting caretakers by boast and just talk.
23 posted on 10/13/2005 3:56:22 PM PDT by hermgem
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To: roses of sharon

If they believe conspirazoid crap, they are hopeless.

That bears repeating.


24 posted on 10/13/2005 3:57:37 PM PDT by jwh_Denver (Politics just plain sucks.)
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To: johnmecainrino

When ABC did their interviews after Bushs NO speach, all the blacks said it was the govs and moyors fault. This is a BS poll.


25 posted on 10/13/2005 4:05:17 PM PDT by Ron in Acreage (It's the borders stupid! "ALLEN IN 08")
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To: everyone

Pathetic. I think the RNC has much better things to do with its time. Will they wake up and smell the coffee?
It's about the BASE, guys!


26 posted on 10/13/2005 4:12:00 PM PDT by California Patriot
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To: jwh_Denver
Let em go, After 40+ yrs. the Dem's have purchased them, there in worse shape now than they've ever been, (barring slavery)If thats the house they chose to live in, so be it. We have done what we can, shown the differences between us an them, some have come, good, but we can't compete for them by seeing who throws more goodies. This has to stop.
27 posted on 10/13/2005 4:13:13 PM PDT by reefdiver
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I could care less. Blacks have rendered themselves politically irrelevant by voting 90% Dem every time. We can win without them and have for the last decade. I don't care if 0% of them like the President.


28 posted on 10/13/2005 4:13:56 PM PDT by SmoothTalker
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To: johnmecainrino

Let'em keep voting Democratic, they have and will continue to reap what they have voted. They deserve what they get. Soon only crooks, gays, Nambla, wacko enviros, PETA, Commies, and blacks will be the Dem. Party. Almost there now.


29 posted on 10/13/2005 4:18:02 PM PDT by right right
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To: roses of sharon

Exactly. They're being told things, and good numbers believe things, about the CIA and NO levees that could come straight out of the Middle East.

The problem isn't us.


30 posted on 10/13/2005 4:21:55 PM PDT by Joseph_CutlerUSA (New blogspot at "http://yankeestation.blogspot.com". Mostly military and political affairs.)
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To: johnmecainrino
The La.Blacks are so stupid they will believe anything a democrat says.
31 posted on 10/13/2005 4:24:52 PM PDT by solo gringo (Liberal democrats like Cindy Sheehan and Flori-duh judges are parasites)
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To: Joseph_CutlerUSA
As I have said for over a decade, if we continue to let the political media write the script for this country any longer, we are truly doomed.

If they were serious professionals who cared about the citizens of their country getting true information, they would not give shysters the time of day.

But alas, it serves their purpose to incite hate by dehumanizing their political opponents.
32 posted on 10/13/2005 4:27:15 PM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: johnmecainrino

Go to the site and you'll see they've got an update to a Pew poll that shows 12%.

So it's bad, but it isn't THAT bad.


33 posted on 10/13/2005 4:30:39 PM PDT by Joseph_CutlerUSA (New blogspot at "http://yankeestation.blogspot.com". Mostly military and political affairs.)
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To: roses of sharon

I agree with you, and was one of those people who thought the time was right for a push-back when the usual players tried to turn it into a racial thing. I thought it was the chance of a lifetime to nip the demagogues in the bud.


34 posted on 10/13/2005 4:32:01 PM PDT by Joseph_CutlerUSA (New blogspot at "http://yankeestation.blogspot.com". Mostly military and political affairs.)
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To: All

So what? Blacks don't vote Republican anyway...and the ones that do are smart enuff not to fall for this crap


35 posted on 10/13/2005 4:37:53 PM PDT by fifthestate
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To: reefdiver

A good percentage of blacks have not gotten over their slave mentality. So be it.


36 posted on 10/13/2005 4:38:44 PM PDT by jwh_Denver (Politics just plain sucks.)
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To: mhking

This thread needs your attention.


37 posted on 10/13/2005 4:51:37 PM PDT by Jalapeno
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To: johnmecainrino

Blanco, Nagin, Landrieu, and all those Democrat scumbags kept those people in New Orleans as long as they could. They knew if those people left--their voting base--many would never return.


38 posted on 10/13/2005 5:16:09 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (Stop the ACLU - Support the Public Expression of Religion Act 2005 - Call your congressmen.)
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To: johnmecainrino

We have been subjected to weeks of non-stop news coverage accusing Bush of being at fault for the disaster in Louisiana. Amazingly, we don't believe it, because we don't believe everything the news media tells us.

So why would be believe the news media when it cites a poll claiming that Louisianans of whatever stripe also believe Bush to be at fault?

First, if it were true, it wouldn't be surprising, since the media have been claiming it to be so non-stop; but secondly, if everything else they say is distorted or flatly false, why would we accept this poll as legitimate?

Again, the people of whatever stripe who really believe that Bush is out to get Louisiana, are Democrats and will likely be until the day they die. They aren't going to vote Republican, and never would have. This may include the people in the 9th Ward, but it also includes most academics. Most of the people who believe Bush blew up the levees are academics. If the poll had separated them out as a group, the percentage would have been 98%.


39 posted on 10/13/2005 5:27:54 PM PDT by marron
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To: Williams
Using a qualifier when making such statements would be helpful.

This American black is not a total sucker. I don't judge a group by the actions of those who share similar physical distinctions and I'd appreciate the same in return.

SOME people, race aside, will believe anything that absolves them of responsibility for making a decision. Yes, a high percentage of blacks tow the demo line--but not all of us.

I've lost many friends and have strained relations with some family members over my embrace of conservatism. I fight consistently the maintain my individuality and for what?

I may not post to FR often but I do make my voice heard--I know other conservative blacks who do the same.

No anger, just a suggestion.
40 posted on 10/13/2005 5:44:46 PM PDT by Kitten1 (12/23/1898; 12/25/1901; 3/6/36; 6/25/39; 9/11/55; -- Your sacrifice is not forgotten.)
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To: johnmecainrino

But how many blacks supported bush BEFORE Katrina?


41 posted on 10/13/2005 5:56:42 PM PDT by phatoldphart (Do Not Fold, Spindle or Mutilate)
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To: PISANO
Get used to this BS. We will have polls on everything about Bush and the GOP. The feeding frenzy of the MSM will go on and on until they overplay their hands just like all leftists eventually do.

There is a percentage of people that will believe whatever the MSM reports.

The MSM/Socialists complex needs those believers in order to maintain it's critical mass.

Look for the lies to get more outrageous and shrill as they continue to lose ground.

42 posted on 10/13/2005 5:59:07 PM PDT by oldbrowser (A living, breathing constitution is a usurpation of the people's sovereignty)
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To: cricket
I think Bush has caused much of this. He seems to be a very gentle and forgiving man. I have never heard him say hateful things or even snide comments about any of those that oppose him.

Sometimes I think he turns the other cheek to much. He has stood up for both Blanco and Nagin, instead of pointing out where the REAL blame lies.

He has not taken the responsibility for the Louisiana fiasco, he took only the responsibility for the Fed.Gov. lack of response.
43 posted on 10/13/2005 6:07:18 PM PDT by frannie (Be not afraid of tomorrow - God is already there!)
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To: Kitten1
I agree entirely and you have my personal apology. Assuming the 2% figure is true, unfortunately it seems as though my generalization was more true than not.

I remember in 2000 they were running those "it was like Bush murdered my daddy all over again" commercials because he vetoed some hate crimes legislation (even though the murderer in the case got the death penalty and Texas already had a hate crimes law). I was in a store and decent enough young white guy was talking to decent enough young black guy. Young black guy says he will never vote for George Bush because george Bush vetoed hate crimes legislation. The dem approach on this works.

By the way I ultimately blame the republicans. They sit around while dems accuse them of horrible things and say "tut tut" and are sure people will understand.

It's really a shame because George Bush has avoided anything smacking of racism his whole life. Witness for example his quick abandonments of Trent Lott and Bill Bennett. This is the reward he gets.

44 posted on 10/13/2005 6:11:36 PM PDT by Williams
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To: frannie

Bingo


45 posted on 10/13/2005 6:12:15 PM PDT by Williams
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To: Ron in Acreage

Blacks in New Orleans blamed the governor, this is national. Maybe blacks hate Blanco too, but who cares? Her ststus will not affect national elections.


46 posted on 10/13/2005 6:13:46 PM PDT by Williams
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To: johnmecainrino

A lie is halfway around the world before the truth catches up but it does.


47 posted on 10/13/2005 6:15:36 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Kitten1

What a nice post. It's a shame that many on here have only negative or crude remarks in their comments.

I sometimes think civility and concern for all CITIZENS is never going to happen.

What I think is heart breaking is some of these remarks won't help those who need truths about what we as a nation should be trying to do. Not just for a certain group. But for all our families.


48 posted on 10/13/2005 6:22:01 PM PDT by frannie (Be not afraid of tomorrow - God is already there!)
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To: frannie
Thank you, Frannie. I appreciate your comments as well.

My husband and I devotedly raised a daughter who is currently studying to be a pediatric cardiologist. Yes, we're proud of her. And she is a vocal conservative.

We try to be a living example that conservatism and the values it espouses are not race-defined. Two of my nephews and one niece actually listen when I talk to them about personal responsibility and sacrifice. Both nephews are in the Navy. My niece is studying to be a physical therapist. This is progress for a family overrun by liberals--some of whom won't speak to me.

Then I read some of the comments in this thread and others, all I can do is shake my head and say a prayer.
49 posted on 10/13/2005 6:43:39 PM PDT by Kitten1 (12/23/1898; 12/25/1901; 3/6/36; 6/25/39; 9/11/55; -- Your sacrifice is not forgotten.)
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To: frannie
He has not taken the responsibility for the Louisiana fiasco, he took only the responsibility for the Fed.Gov. lack of response.

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Agree with your assessment of President Bush. . .an honorable and humble man. . .and while there is genuine strength in being a statesman; a gentleman. . .when you have real enemies; you have to find a way to effectively 'deal' with them. Do not think he really goes there. ..

. . ..not the way many of us would like him to, for sure.

As for the Fed.Gov lack of response. . .yes, it was the Fed.Gov. problem; but thought according to every Demrat; that was the Louisiana fiasco ;^) . . .

50 posted on 10/13/2005 7:01:58 PM PDT by cricket (No Freedom - No Peace)
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