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Spanish judge orders arrest of three US soldiers
Jerusalem Post ^ | Oct. 19, 2005 | AP

Posted on 10/19/2005 6:47:04 AM PDT by ScaniaBoy

A Spanish judge has issued an international arrest order for three US soldiers whose tank fired at a Baghdad hotel during the war in Iraq, killing a Spanish journalist, a court official said Wednesday.

Jose Couso, who worked for the Spanish television network Telecinco, died April 8, 2003, after the tank crew fired a shell at the Palestine Hotel in Baghdad where many journalists were staying to cover the war.

The Spanish judge said he issued the arrest order because of a lack of judicial cooperation from the United States regarding the case.

US officials insist the soldiers believed they were being shot at when they opened fire.


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KEYWORDS: dondeestaelcommies; iraqwar; spain; spainsucks; ussoldiers
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To: gridlock

Exactly. Chances are, the reporter was standing next to the shooters to get a "story". Screw em. It's a war zone and they knew that. Bush warned them and told them all to leave.


51 posted on 10/19/2005 8:51:00 AM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: ScaniaBoy
In 2003, some moonbats filed a criminal complaint in Belgium against Tommy Franks for genocide in Iraq. The Belgians took this seriously for a while - until Washington threatened to pull U.S. investments and move NATO headquarters. There was some speculation that this would cost about 50,000 jobs in Belgium. A Belgian appeals court then dismissed the complaint on technical grounds. I could carve a stronger backbone out of a banana. I predict a similar outcome here.
52 posted on 10/19/2005 8:58:27 AM PDT by Airborne1986 (Well, you can do what you want to us. But we're not going to sit here while you badmouth the U.S.A.)
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To: ScaniaBoy

The Spanish can't forget their problem with the Maine in Cuba. Too bad they don't have to pay for the rape of Central and South America.

I'd hope the indigenous population, the descendents of those peoples would sue Spain for the pillaging and murders of their ancestors.


53 posted on 10/19/2005 9:04:34 AM PDT by hgro (A)
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To: ScaniaBoy

ahh...Spain has joined the fatwa crowd.


54 posted on 10/19/2005 9:06:17 AM PDT by evad ( PC KILLS-)
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To: wideawake
At which point we invade Cartagena.
55 posted on 10/19/2005 9:07:29 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: wideawake

Sad but true. Until this is resolved and the arrest warrant dropped, these soldiers will have to be very careful when traveling abroad, if they want to risk it at all.


56 posted on 10/19/2005 9:15:19 AM PDT by Tatze (I voted for John Kerry before I voted against him!)
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To: Snickersnee
The incident is retold in Thunder Run. The unit had arrived in the heart of Baghdad. They were pinned down and taking heavy fire, which appeared to be directed from the hotel. They had no idea there were any journalists there. This is a bunch of bull.

The Eurotrash needs to be told forcefully that if they try to abduct any U.S. citizens over actions taken in uniform it will not only be considered a criminal act by those involved but an act of war by their government.

57 posted on 10/19/2005 9:17:56 AM PDT by colorado tanker (I can't comment on things that might come before the Court, but I can tell you my Pinochle strategy)
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To: ScaniaBoy
Ha! You and what Army judge?

The Spanish?

Better hide and run away before we say "Neeeeh!" to you a second time.

58 posted on 10/19/2005 9:25:18 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: RetiredArmy
This of course would be the scenario if we had a president with a set to threaten this

Which we do not, as we have flaccid and impotent "leaders".

Since we were at war, anybody threatening to "arrest" our soldiers should be considered an enemy combatant and shot if necessary to defend ourselves, if (as you say) our president had a set, which Bush does not, as proven by the Miers pick.

60 posted on 10/19/2005 9:36:35 AM PDT by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (Bush's #1 priority Africa. #2 priority appease Fox and Mexico . . . USA priority #64.)
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To: MARKUSPRIME

I dont blame the soldiers its your life or the enemies in a hot zone, only idiots would think otherwise.

Exactly...
idiots = Spanish judges (and their govt leader too)


61 posted on 10/19/2005 9:42:13 AM PDT by BushisTheMan
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To: WilliamWallace1999

Hello? Can you hear me? Can you hear me now?


62 posted on 10/19/2005 9:43:34 AM PDT by nfldgirl ("I love a good rant every now-n-then!")
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To: ScaniaBoy

War with Spain? I can dig it...


63 posted on 10/19/2005 9:47:44 AM PDT by Lexington Green (Tell 'em lies and feed 'em candy...)
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

Too bad that Supreme Court Justice Miers would hand these boys over to the tender mercies of the ICC. Thanks, George.

". . . during Miers long affiliation with the American Bar Association, she submitted a 1999 report to the ABA's house of delegates that included recommendations to develop and establish an International Criminal Court and the enactment of laws and public policy providing that the sexual orientation of adults be no bar to adoption of children."

From: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=46641


64 posted on 10/19/2005 9:48:50 AM PDT by Iconoclast2 (Two wings of the same bird of prey . . .)
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To: ScaniaBoy

This was battle in the midst of a war. If you aren't one of the combatants or you don't live there you don't belong there. If you are there and get your stupid head blown off its your fault.


65 posted on 10/19/2005 9:53:49 AM PDT by vladog
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To: gridlock

"The enemy was, in fact, firing from the Palestine Hotel.

A clue to our friends in the press. If you are standing next to somebody who is firing at US troops, then you are, at best, acting as a human shield for their operations. Do not be surprised when you receive return fire." You wrote




In 2004 when fighting against Sadr and his merry men, French journalists were with his militia. They reported how horrible we were because we were actually shooting towards them! Can you believe that??!! We were actually shooting at the bad guys!

I guess for a French "man" that is a hard concept to understand: Shooting at the enemy.

Red6


66 posted on 10/19/2005 9:55:19 AM PDT by Red6
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To: ScaniaBoy

A spanish judge is threatening our boys and girls
in uniform, serving our nation.
Sounds like a declaration of war by the spanish judge.
Is it proper to threaten a judge from another country?
For this case .... I think so!


67 posted on 10/19/2005 9:55:36 AM PDT by From One - Many (Able Danger - No Intelligence Failure - Media Lied Again)
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To: gridlock

"The enemy was, in fact, firing from the Palestine Hotel.

A clue to our friends in the press. If you are standing next to somebody who is firing at US troops, then you are, at best, acting as a human shield for their operations. Do not be surprised when you receive return fire." You wrote




In 2004 when fighting against Sadr and his merry men, French journalists were with his militia. They reported how horrible we were because we were actually shooting towards them! Can you believe that??!! We were actually shooting at the bad guys!

I guess for a French "man" that is a hard concept to understand: Shooting at the enemy.

Red6


68 posted on 10/19/2005 9:55:49 AM PDT by Red6
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To: ScaniaBoy

Them and what Armada?


69 posted on 10/19/2005 9:55:50 AM PDT by Bogey78O (Live from Hurricane Katrina- Western St. Tammany Division)
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To: ScaniaBoy

Any assault upon our GIs or veterans who were once GIs will be considered an assault upon the USA, Judge, you shi*t for brains SOB!

The insane now reign in cowardly Spain,
all across that foggy, soggy plain,
up to their necks in Islamic nuts,
they hope to appease by kissing their butts.




70 posted on 10/19/2005 9:56:36 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Our soldiers are us and there's nothing left to discuss-you touch them, you die!!!!!!)
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To: Former Dodger; Fred Nerks; jan in Colorado; USF

Hmmm...

I am still in BeNeLux at this writing...and I was going to Krakow...perhaps Slovakia next week - do I need to schedule a visit to Spain? See a man about a judge? do a little extra wet work on the side?

*Sigh* All these sudden changes in my plans...

A.A.C.

"Dirty deeds done dirt cheap"

"Let the Final Crusade commence!"


71 posted on 10/19/2005 9:57:04 AM PDT by AmericanArchConservative (Armour on, Lances high, Swords out, Bows drawn, Shields front ... Eagles UP!)
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To: ScaniaBoy
So the terrorists hide in hotels, with noncombatants, in violation of several tenants of organized warfare, and when they draw fire, the U.S. soldiers are blamed? This is exactly the sort of rank double standard that Israel has had to bear with the Eurotrash; the claim is utterly empty and reveals nothing but the hatred of the U.S.
72 posted on 10/19/2005 10:02:51 AM PDT by giobruno
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To: ScaniaBoy

I don't think Spain has the guts to arrest our soldiers even if they walked up to the court house and told the judge to F**K OFF.

They are a gutless bunch who gave-up to the face of terror moments after their train bombings.

They are not even a country anymore. They gave up their rights to the EU not to long ago. Spain doesn't matter or even exist.


73 posted on 10/19/2005 10:03:45 AM PDT by JeffersonRepublic.com (There is no truth in the news, and no news in the truth.)
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To: wideawake

The problem with your scenario is that for international flights...the only way you'd get to Europe from an island in the Caribbean is via Miami or Havana. Most of these islands have few if any flights to Mexico City or South America...so getting that GI out to Spain will be very difficult.

My guess is that they will wait this out until Hillery takes office...which you may have a good laugh on...but its a 50 percent chance that she will win. Within 30 days of taking office, she will likely pull out a list of things to make European allies happy about, and this will be in the top ten. She will probably direct DOD (if they are still in the military)...to transport them to a stockade where a Spanish escourt would take them to Spain after a brief manufactured legal process (likely created by White House terms under President Hillery...don't laugh now...because it is possible).

After DOD refuses to hand these guys over...she will demand the secretary of defense to fire the top general and appoint someone to take her orders. The second guy will likely refuse the order, thus requiring some old formerly retired general (from Bill's years) to be brought back on duty to accomplish "impossible" task.

Meanwhile, the one guy who is likely out of the military and a civlian....will be sought by FBI agents (ordered again by President Hillery). The sought-after guy will likely show up in Texas or Oklahoma...where local law enforcement will gather with some national guard guys to encircle and protect "their local citizen". Hillery will "order" the guard guys to stand down, and will bring in heavy government officials to convince the state to just give up. By this time...around 5,000 locals will have joined up in this mess creating a mega force for the Feds to deal with. The Spanish, by this point, will be laughing because they achieved all this by just a simple Spanish legal request. And Hillery looks like a fool on Fox for her amusing orders to government officals. Retired president Bush then offers his healthly criticism of her "regime".

By the end...the Bush-stacked supreme court will weigh in, and by a margin of 5-4...strangely enough...they tell Hillery she doesn't have the authority to hand US troops over to foreign governments. She gives up her quest...but then sets to a mind to restack the entire supreme court in her favor as each retires...which 3 will likely come up during the next 4-year term.


74 posted on 10/19/2005 10:18:04 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: pepsionice

See Post #64. Bush's pick supports the ICC.


75 posted on 10/19/2005 10:38:33 AM PDT by Iconoclast2 (Two wings of the same bird of prey . . .)
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To: Red Badger

Very interesting..


76 posted on 10/19/2005 10:55:54 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: ScaniaBoy

Of course, there's no mention of what Spanish media guy did to earn a tank shell in his grille. When you run around a war zone as a non-combatant, you do so at your own peril.


77 posted on 10/19/2005 11:02:50 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity ("Sharpei diem - Seize the wrinkled dog.")
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

This has been my fear all along. That American soldiers would be brought before kangaroo courts around the world and found guilty, if not by foreign governments, than by the ICC. What a brave new world we live in.


78 posted on 10/19/2005 11:06:26 AM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife ("Death is better, a milder fate than tyranny. "--Aeschylus)
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To: untrained skeptic
Looks like Spain has their Ronaldo Earlesto.
79 posted on 10/19/2005 11:29:14 AM PDT by auboy ("Don't get stuck on whiny")
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To: ScaniaBoy

FYI. The family of Jose Couso traveled to the US in Setember to be with Cindy Sheehan.


80 posted on 10/19/2005 11:58:36 AM PDT by Between the Lines (Be careful how you live your life, it may be the only gospel anyone reads.)
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To: ScaniaBoy

Frankly, I'm sick and tired of this misplaced idea that "the press" is some sort of sanctified, protected class.

It's a business, however there are constitutional protections against government meddling in that business.

But because someone's a "member of the press," they have no rights or protections greater than any other citizen.

And any citizen who's stupid enough to plant themselves in the middle of a war zone, and claim that they're neutral had better be prepared for the consequences.

Frankly, I have no problems at all with reporters being shot and killed in a war zone, given their "neutrality."

The sad thing is that they claim the protections granted by the military that they demean.

Mark


81 posted on 10/19/2005 12:12:55 PM PDT by MarkL (I didn't get to where I am today by worrying about what I'd feel like tomorrow!)
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To: Thombo2
With friends like Spain,who needs enemies?

Let's remember that "Spain" has not done anything.

A liberal judge in Spain has done something and liberal judges, whether they be in Spain or in the U.S., do all sorts of crazy things every day.

A Texas court on Wednesday issued an arrest warrant for former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, R-Texas

82 posted on 10/19/2005 12:13:41 PM PDT by Polybius
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To: ScaniaBoy

Just a reminder, Kerry & Clinton both supported our entry into the World Court. What a fiasco that would be.


83 posted on 10/19/2005 12:21:38 PM PDT by KenmcG414
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To: ScaniaBoy

At least these Spaniards didn't have to witness the torment and beheading of one of their journalist.


84 posted on 10/19/2005 12:23:41 PM PDT by Fruit of the Spirit
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To: sheik yerbouty
Spain needs another El Cid.

El Cid was a simple mercenary, who'd work for anybody given the right price. Why exactly dose Spain need another Cid?

85 posted on 10/19/2005 12:23:57 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Whatever tears one may shed, in the end one always blows one’s nose.-Heine)
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To: ScaniaBoy
A Spanish judge has issued an international arrest order for three US soldiers whose tank fired at a Baghdad hotel during the war in Iraq, killing a Spanish journalist, a court official said Wednesday.

Hey Spain! You want those soldiers?

Molon Labe.

86 posted on 10/19/2005 12:27:27 PM PDT by Knitebane (Happily Microsoft free since 1999.)
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To: ScaniaBoy

Wonder if this moronic "judge" would like it if we responded to his request with a B-52 bombardment of his courthouse.


87 posted on 10/19/2005 1:27:17 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (De gustibus non est disputandum.)
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To: F15Eagle
We are talking about Spain after all. Just set a few firecrackers off in the Madrid transit and they'll cave on this.
88 posted on 10/19/2005 1:38:25 PM PDT by daybreakcoming (May God bless those who enter the valley of the shadow of death so that we may see the light of day.)
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To: ScaniaBoy

SPAIN...the OTHER France


89 posted on 10/19/2005 1:39:18 PM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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To: Between the Lines
FYI. The family of Jose Couso traveled to the US in Setember to be with Cindy Sheehan.

Thanks for that information!

Scum is attracted by scum apparently.

90 posted on 10/19/2005 1:40:33 PM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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This can all be solved if we would just nuke the whole EU already! First Paris, then Madrid...of course, we'll take our good friend Tony Blair out first.


92 posted on 10/19/2005 1:55:51 PM PDT by confederate_infidel (Tunafish: taste like dolphin.)
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To: ScaniaBoy

Not suprised by this at all. Spain was defeated by Al Quaeda.


93 posted on 10/19/2005 2:04:52 PM PDT by Godebert
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To: From One - Many

Issue travel advisory for Spain. Boycott Spanish products. Cancel Sergio Garcia's visa.


94 posted on 10/19/2005 2:18:33 PM PDT by slyfoxvirden
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To: wideawake
cuffs him and escorts him on the next flight to Barcelona.

Shortly thereafter, the Barcelona lock-up facility finds its doors being destroyed, and the facility overran by a small team of U.S. Marines from Rota NAS, who are provided full air support from the same facility. Ten or so marines should be able to kick all the butt needed to spring the unfortunate GI.

The whole idea of a Spanish (or any other nationality) judge issuing an arrest warrant for an American GI is ludicrous! I doubt even Spain could find anyone stoopid enough to try and enforce that warrant!

95 posted on 10/19/2005 2:27:54 PM PDT by Don Carlos (.45ACP - larger entry wound, more air in, more blood out)
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To: slyfoxvirden
"Boycott Spanish products"

No WAY dude! I'm going there next month and plan to drink large quantities of CruzCampo cerveza!

96 posted on 10/19/2005 2:35:26 PM PDT by Don Carlos (.45ACP - larger entry wound, more air in, more blood out)
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To: Red Badger
"Spain needs another Ferdinand and Isabella......."

Spain needs another Sir Francis Drake...
97 posted on 10/19/2005 3:12:00 PM PDT by decal (Mother Nature and Real Life are conservatives; the Progs have never figured this out.)
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To: ScaniaBoy

The family came to the US and was sponsored by Amy Goodman.

The family wants compensation from the US. I'm surprised the DoD didn't just pay them off to end this.


98 posted on 10/19/2005 3:23:29 PM PDT by Patriot from Philly
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To: ScaniaBoy

A Spanish judge has issued an international arrest order for three US soldiers whose tank fired at a Baghdad hotel during the war in Iraq, killing a Spanish journalist, a court official said Wednesday.

Screw the Spanish Cowards, One train bomb and they fold like the bastard children of some Drunken French child molester.
I dont give a damn what these Communist pinkos say or do.
Let Allah take them.


99 posted on 10/19/2005 4:09:23 PM PDT by LtKerst (Lt Kerst)
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To: ScaniaBoy

He was one of the greatest presidents.


100 posted on 10/19/2005 4:17:28 PM PDT by exdem2000
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