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The Miers Blunder
Wall Street Journal ^ | October 21, 2005 | Editorial

Posted on 10/20/2005 9:05:37 PM PDT by gpapa

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To: gpapa
Instead of a fight over judicial philosophy, we're having a fight over one woman's credentials and background. Instead of debating the Kelo decision's evisceration of private property rights, we are destined to learn everything we never wanted to know about the Texas Lottery Commission.

What a wasted opportunity.

Thanks a hell of a lot, George. I'm sure those you were begging to vote for you exactly a year ago ("because it's all about the judges!") are real pleased about how you've squandered their support.

41 posted on 10/21/2005 1:30:44 AM PDT by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: MNJohnnie
Well, I'm glad you showed up again. It seemed odd not to have any retarded Bushbot nonsense on the thread. So read this paragraph again, genius:

Especially in the wake of his success with John Roberts, President Bush had a rare opportunity to fulfill his campaign pledge to change the Court by nominating someone in the mold of Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas. In the process, he would have rallied his most fervent supporters and helped to educate the country about proper Constitutional interpretation.

Think about it, Einstein. President Bush's credibility was boosted tremendously by the John Roberts success, while the 'Rats came off looking like petulent dimwits under the sway of the most radical elements of their party. Had the President nominated Michael Luttig, the conservatives and the Republicans would be united, the 'Rats would be sounding the same as before, and we would be having a national discussion about whether Schumer, Leahy, Kennedy, and co. are entitled to declare a certain judicial philosophy (our judicial philosophy) unsuitable for the bench; a fight we would have readily won. Instead we have a too-old, under-qualified enigma, who can only be defended through insults and obstinance directed at our political base. Congratulations on being too stupid to understand this, jerk!

42 posted on 10/21/2005 2:33:05 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: gpapa

A recess appointment is possible. What if the liberal Democrats and rino Republicans all vote against her because they believe she would rule against Roe vs. Wade? Bush says something to the effect of "I'll show all of them" and recess appoints the one he wants to serve the next year...........Harriet Miers.


43 posted on 10/21/2005 2:47:28 AM PDT by Oklahoma
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To: no dems
...who might his next choice be?

If Miers does withdraw or bombs at the hearings, my guess is that Bush will ask O'Connor to stay on for the remainder of the term, and start over with a new pick next summer.

44 posted on 10/21/2005 2:48:41 AM PDT by IndyTiger
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To: Stellar Dendrite

Stellar, we need to start tracking all of those Pro-miers folks who have been yelling how we are all going to look stupid when she is confirmed, and remind them of what they said when she is not confirmed.


45 posted on 10/21/2005 5:48:22 AM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: IndyTiger
If Miers does withdraw or bombs at the hearings, my guess is that Bush will ask O'Connor to stay on for the remainder of the term, and start over with a new pick next summer.

Or at least next year sometime. The closer the nomination fight is to election day, the greater its potential impact on the election. One third of the senate seats are up for grabs and each side will be weighing the imapact of the fight on their respective bases against the risk of alienating the undecideds.

I hope and pray Bush picks someone who nomination will fire up the Republican base. In recent history, unlike the Democrats' base, we've shown the ability to deliver elections when we're fired up.

46 posted on 10/21/2005 5:55:50 AM PDT by JCEccles
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To: no dems

"Well, it is definitely possible that she will surprise a lot of people during the hearings"

I think so. It's not like the bar is very high now. I mean if she doesn't drool on herself, she will probably beat expectations at this stage.


47 posted on 10/21/2005 6:12:19 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: rogue yam

Your post might have been a bit long for the person you replied to to read it....


48 posted on 10/21/2005 6:14:45 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: phelanw
It's gotten so bad that her supporters here have to wonder how long the farce can continue, or how many more lumps they can take.

It's like a FReeper 'Survivor' show.

49 posted on 10/21/2005 6:15:19 AM PDT by johnny7 (“What now? Let me tell you what now.”)
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To: no dems
"Perhaps Ms. Miers will prove to be such a sterling Senate witness that she can still win confirmation."

I doubt it. Some say expectations are so low she can easily exceed them. I think the opposite may be the case. If she stumbles even once (as she apparently did in the 47 page questionnaire) that's all anyone will talk about about. Fair or not, she's already been branded. It's going to be a steep hill to climb with no support on the right flank and attacks coming from the left.

The WH should pack it in and start over. Whether the WH wants to admit it or not, a fight for Miers is not the court fight the right was expecting (hoping?) for.

50 posted on 10/21/2005 6:17:18 AM PDT by handy (Forgive me this day, my daily typos...The Truth is not a Smear!)
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To: Stellar Dendrite

Thanks, SD. I missed this one!


51 posted on 10/21/2005 6:26:47 AM PDT by meema (I am a Conservative Traditional Republican, NOT an elitist, sexist or cynic!)
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To: MNJohnnie
It has everything to do with the Anti-Miers being mad at Bush.

You don't get mad at bad judgement by someone you support... you become sadly disappointed.

52 posted on 10/21/2005 6:26:58 AM PDT by johnny7 (“What now? Let me tell you what now.”)
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To: MNJohnnie
"It has everything to do with the Anti-Miers being mad at Bush."

That's probably true for some, but not all by any means. While I disagree with W on at least one fundamental issue, I've thought highly of him on others, particularly the WOT. Plus I've always considered him to be a straight shooter, which counts for a lot. And I've thought that he has the ability to see the big picture, to concentrate on what is important to the country.

But this fiasco is making me wonder I'm whether or not Bush might be a dumbass at some level, or at least unfocused.

Maybe time will prove me wrong, you never know when a second stringer called from the bench will turn out to be a hero. But I sure am wondering.

53 posted on 10/21/2005 6:31:11 AM PDT by Sam Cree (absolute reality - Miami)
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To: handy

The political geniuses at the White House thought they were going to avoid a fight....if you hear all the posts around FR, many say that this was a genius strategy because we can't fight a battle we can't win, etc.

So it seems that their genius idea of avoiding a fight has failed...so they are left to fight for this nominee (which seems to be something few conservatives are willing to help out on), or try again.

That is, if the geniuses at the White House can figure out that maybe their political acumen in this instance was not what they thought it was....


54 posted on 10/21/2005 6:51:12 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: johnny7

"It has everything to do with the Anti-Miers being mad at Bush."

All I can say is that if true, then GWB is in pretty bad shape...in other words if all that are piling on against Miers have truly become anti-Bush, then Bush has much bigger issues than just losing this nominee.


55 posted on 10/21/2005 7:01:18 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: ConservativeDude
I didn't say that... I was only referring to it. Only a pee-wit would lump all of Bush's 'perceived' shortcomings into this issue.
56 posted on 10/21/2005 7:17:49 AM PDT by johnny7 (“What now? Let me tell you what now.”)
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To: Piranha
I fail to understand how someone whose job was to protect the President can allow herself to become the lightning rod for this kind of attack against him by his own base.

Mutual admiration society.

57 posted on 10/21/2005 7:18:58 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: no dems
If she she and/or The Prez withdraws her nomination; who might his next choice be?

The answer that typically comes to that question is "somebody worse." The most often mentioned by name is Alberto Gonzales.

One reason given for it being "somebody worse" is that the President will be angry with the opposition to Ms. Mires nomination, and will strike out to get even. I.e., spite.

Who knows what he'll do.

58 posted on 10/21/2005 7:23:11 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt

If he picked Gonzalez, he would go down in history as a small minded who squandered opportunity after opportunity to make any real difference on the court.

Roberts for Renhquist - Status Quo

Gonzales for O'Connor - Status Quo.

He made a specific promise and must be held to account.


59 posted on 10/21/2005 7:26:48 AM PDT by chris1 ("Make the other guy die for his country" - George S. Patton)
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To: johnny7

Yes, I understand...I was only commenting on the idea, not necessarily to you.


60 posted on 10/21/2005 7:27:05 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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