Dubya Does 'Reagan'

Townhall ^ | 10/23/2005 | Debra Saunders

[cynicom]

Bush aint no conservative.

[KC_Conspirator]

Also, where is Bush's leadership regarding making the tax cuts permanent? Nowhere. In fact, his administration has just created a commision to reform the tax structure and that's a total joke.

I completely agree. Bush has had an awful year.

[MadIvan]

If you really want a blood feud on your hands, then continue to spew Democrat talking points about Reagan. Really, I've had it up to here with people defending every last thing Bush does - but tearing down Reagan is the last, final straw.

Ivan

[sinkspur]

He also pounded Libya into submission.

Yeah. He bombed Khadafi's compound and killed his daughter in 1986.

Khadafi then funded two terrorists to blow up Pan Am 103 over Scotland in 1988.

He really pounded Khadafi, didn't he?

He managed to cut taxes and roll back the role of the state to do so.

Reagan raised taxes in 1984. RAISED TAXES! Then he restructured the tax code in 1986, eliminating the shelters that helped fuel the savings and loan scandal in the Bush I administration.

Ivan, you need to brush up on your history.

And, calling me a "sick twisted bastard" in the first sentence sets the stage for a rant, not a discussion.

[sinkspur]

If you really want a blood feud on your hands, then continue to spew Democrat talking points about Reagan. Really, I've had it up to here with people defending every last thing Bush does - but tearing down Reagan is the last, final straw.

Just the facts, Ivan. Just the facts.

[safisoft]

Ivan, you need to brush up on your history. And, calling me a "sick twisted bastard" in the first sentence sets the stage for a rant, not a discussion.

OTOH, your history comes either from Hollywierd, or DU. Man, you people have sunk to incredible depths in defense of Bush. Sick, sick stuff. Keep it up, and our host man in fact ban you for being such a jerk.

[sinkspur]

OTOH, your history comes either from Hollywierd, or DU. Man, you people have sunk to incredible depths in defense of Bush. Sick, sick stuff. Keep it up, and our host man in fact ban you for being such a jerk.

You can't refute the facts I posted either, huh?

[safisoft]

You can't refute the facts I posted either, huh?

I don't discuss some things with children. Make the leap, and move to DU. I don't care about a 1998 sign up date - you are a troll.

[MadIvan]

Yeah. He bombed Khadafi's compound and killed his daughter in 1986. Khadafi then funded two terrorists to blow up Pan Am 103 over Scotland in 1988.

Which Libya was at pains to deny for years because of fear of retribution (thanks to Reagan). Strange form of revenge, where you don't let the person you're avenging yourself on know who did it. Truly, Libya went to ground.

Reagan raised taxes in 1984. RAISED TAXES! Then he restructured the tax code in 1986, eliminating the shelters that helped fuel the savings and loan scandal in the Bush I administration.

Reagan cut income taxes (the taxes to which you refer are payroll taxes and a petrol tax). Overall, government's share of GDP went down during Reagan's watch.

And, calling me a "sick twisted bastard" in the first sentence sets the stage for a rant, not a discussion.

Give me a break - you've been vile towards anyone who suggests anything untoward about your hero. You shouldn't scream like a little girl when someone kicks you hard in the goolies in retaliation.

Ivan

[Thorin]

>>>>>>You blow off Lebanon as if it was nothing.

On the contrary, it was Reagan acting in the best interests of our country. Reagan managed to bring down the Soviet Union without getting the US bogged down anywhere. Bush might want to consider how Reagan did this. And let's not even talk about government spending. The point is, Reagan solved the problems he was elected to solve, and Bush hasn't solved anything.

[borkrules]

There is nothing. NO-thing that sinkspur won't say to defend Bush from even the most principled and soft-spoken criticism.

Quite simply, he'll brook no negative remarks as regard Mr. Bush and he'll stoop to the lowest levels in his ham fisted efforts to "counter" those criticisms.

When called on it, he invites us to join him in the gutter to debate Reagan's legacy. And this, on a conservative forum. If I wanted to debate the Reagan legacy and counter the half-truths and distortions of a decidely liberal point of view, there are any number of websites and fora that I could point my browser at. But here? Odd, that.

[mysterio]

I like your posts.

[MadIvan]

President Reagan and Mrs. Thatcher were the dynamic duo that defined the 1980's. They pounded the left into submission - till basically Blair was reduced to making his peace with the free market, as was Clinton. (That said, Blair was a better student than Weird Bill).

It's extremely poor that one would speak ill of the dead. It's worse that it would be done in the name of defending the indefensible.

Regards, Ivan

[sinkspur]

YOU CANNOT DISCUSS THE FACTS, sonny. You've proved it now in two posts.

[bamabaseballmom]

Well said, Ivan. It is inconceivable to me that some "conservatives" are now resorting to trashing President Reagan in order to defend some of President Bush's decisions.

[sinkspur]

Reagan cut income taxes (the taxes to which you refer are payroll taxes and a petrol tax).

Raising payroll taxes and gasoline taxes are TAX INCREASES. And eliminating tax shelters in 1986 cost the country billions in bailing out Federally insured savings and loans, which had invested heavily in those shelters.

[Dumb_Ox]

Presidential Libraries reek of caesarism.

[sinkspur]

The point is, Reagan solved the problems he was elected to solve, and Bush hasn't solved anything.

50 million Muslims would disagree.

[Black Tooth]

Too bad GWB cannot hold a candle to Reagan. Too bad for America.

I recall reading that some were implying or suggesting close comparisons of Bush to Reagan after Reagan died, before he was even buried. I found it disturbing and classless.

[sinkspur]

It's extremely poor that one would speak ill of the dead. It's worse that it would be done in the name of defending the indefensible.

LOL! 50 million freed Muslims will appreciate George W. Bush, even if you don't.