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Giuliani Tops List of U.S. Presidential Hopefuls
angus-reid.com ^ | Oct 24 05 | angus-reid

Posted on 10/24/2005 10:50:30 AM PDT by churchillbuff

Many adults in the United States believe Republican Rudy Giuliani should launch a White House bid, according to a poll by the Marist College Institute for Public Opinion. 54 per cent of respondents would like the former New York City major to run for president in 2008.

Republican Arizona senator John McCain is second on the list of prospective candidates with 52 per cent, followed by Democratic New York senator Hillary Rodham Clinton with 48 per cent, and former North Carolina senator and 2004 Democratic vice-presidential nominee John Edwards with 47 per cent.

Less than 40 per cent of respondents support bids by Massachusetts senator and 2004 Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry, and U.S. state secretary Condoleezza Rice.

Giuliani garnered national and international attention in the aftermath of the 9/11 terrorist attacks. The former New York City mayor currently heads Giuliani Partners, LLC—a consulting firm.

In an Oct. 5 speech to business leaders, Giuliani opened the door for a possible White House bid, saying, "I think I’ll return to politics."

Polling Data

Do you want (the following persons) to run for president in 2008, or not?

Yes No

Rudy Giuliani (R) 54% 40%

John McCain (D) 52% 40%

Hillary Rodham Clinton (D) 48% 49%

John Edwards (D) 47% 44%

John Kerry (D) 39% 57%

Condoleezza Rice (R) 37% 57%

Source: Marist College Institute for Public Opinion / WNBC


TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; 2008polls; giuliani; giuliani2008; prezpoll; rinoforprez
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1 posted on 10/24/2005 10:50:31 AM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: churchillbuff

John McCain (D) 52% 40%

Oops, freudian slip? McCain is a Repubbie!


2 posted on 10/24/2005 10:53:05 AM PDT by Danae (Most Liberals don't drink the Kool-aide, they are licking the powder right out of the packet.)
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To: churchillbuff
I am becoming MORE and more confident daily that our 2008 nominee will be Mike Pence-a true Reagan Conservative.
3 posted on 10/24/2005 10:53:09 AM PDT by Gipper08 (Mike Pence in 2008)
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To: churchillbuff

I don't believe that Guilliani will sell in the conservative South. I certainly do not want a man of such low moral character in the White House. We had that with Bill Clinton and we certainly don't want that ever again. Chatacter does count.


4 posted on 10/24/2005 10:53:45 AM PDT by texgal (end no-fault divorce laws return DUE PROCESS & EQUAL PROTECTION to ALL citizens))
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To: churchillbuff

If Republicans nominate a pro-gay pro-abortionist they can say goodbye to the churchgoing conservatives who form the base of the party.


5 posted on 10/24/2005 10:53:52 AM PDT by JohnnyZ ("She was appointed by a conservative. That ought to have been enough for us." -- NotBrilliant)
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To: churchillbuff

Wretch....gag....vomit...

as much as think Rudy is just fine for the peoples republic of NY City...he is not to be trusted as a presidential hopefull or even NY Governor.
As a Senator from NY, he can only improve things and thats as far as he should go.


6 posted on 10/24/2005 10:53:57 AM PDT by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" R. A. Heinlein)
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To: churchillbuff

Many adults in the United States believe Republican Rudy Giuliani should launch a White House bid, according to a poll by the Marist College Institute for Public Opinion. 54 per cent of respondents would like the former New York City major to run for president in 2008.




hmmm. looks like principled conservatives can stay home.


7 posted on 10/24/2005 10:54:45 AM PDT by trubluolyguy (How about them Seahawks!??!)
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To: churchillbuff
Condoleezza Rice (R) 37% 57%

probably such a high no number because no Dem wants to see her run knowing she will offset the votes Hillary will get just because she is a woman

8 posted on 10/24/2005 10:54:50 AM PDT by curtisgardner
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To: churchillbuff

This is going to be an awful boring election.


9 posted on 10/24/2005 10:54:54 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: churchillbuff

...and not a conservative on the list.


10 posted on 10/24/2005 10:55:19 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: churchillbuff

47% for a former one-term Senator from North Carolina???? Who is currently unemployed????

People must be NUTS!


11 posted on 10/24/2005 10:55:27 AM PDT by MarxSux
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To: churchillbuff

Franks and Rice 2008!


12 posted on 10/24/2005 10:55:39 AM PDT by pissant
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To: Danae

I wonder if/when Rick Perry shows up.


13 posted on 10/24/2005 10:56:06 AM PDT by txhurl
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To: churchillbuff

Uh-oh...Can't talk this subject here... Need a blue-blood, elite candidate...


14 posted on 10/24/2005 10:56:09 AM PDT by dakine
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To: churchillbuff
This is a pre-election season poll of no consequence.
Let's hope that Rudy goes against Hillary in 2006 to make her the ex-Senator of NY. That would be perfect IMO.
15 posted on 10/24/2005 10:56:45 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: churchillbuff

I doubt Rudi can win the GOP nomination. Even if he did, he wouldn't get my vote or the votes of a majority of conservatives.


16 posted on 10/24/2005 10:57:08 AM PDT by Reagan Man (Secure our borders;punish employers who hire illegals;stop all welfare to illegals)
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To: trubluolyguy

They are trying to get us to nominate someone for whom the base will not vote. Don't fall for it.


17 posted on 10/24/2005 10:58:42 AM PDT by Bahbah (Tony Schaffer is a hero)
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To: texgal
Giuliani will not be the GOP nominee in 2008 -- you can take that to the bank.

Polls taken three years in advance of an election reflect nothing more than public name recognition, which explains why people like Giuliani and McCain consistently rank at the top of any list of GOP contenders.

18 posted on 10/24/2005 10:58:47 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (I ain't got a dime, but what I got is mine. I ain't rich, but Lord I'm free.)
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To: Reagan Man
he wouldn't get my vote

So you would abstain and let Hillary win? Rudy would be much better than the alternative (Hillary) if he does turn out to be the nominee, which wont even happen IMHO.

19 posted on 10/24/2005 10:59:26 AM PDT by curtisgardner
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To: JohnnyZ

Agreed, but if they nominate a real social conservative, they lose moderate urban and suburban voters. Darned if you do, darned if you don't.


20 posted on 10/24/2005 11:00:09 AM PDT by pa mom
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To: churchillbuff

I think I'll vote for Giuliani, just to tick off the anti-Miers people.

They will have screwed up the stealth anti-abortion candidate, then all their conservatives choices will be tied up until 2008 -- when either Hillary or Giuliani get to pick. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot.


21 posted on 10/24/2005 11:00:40 AM PDT by BushisTheMan
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To: churchillbuff
Giuliani Tops List of U.S. Presidential Hopefuls

And Howard Dean was the front runner for the Dems last time too. That was before the primaries.

22 posted on 10/24/2005 11:00:52 AM PDT by P8riot (When they come for your guns, give them the bullets first.)
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To: Reagan Man

How many times has Rudy been married?


23 posted on 10/24/2005 11:02:58 AM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: Danae
Oops, freudian slip? McCain is a Repubbie!

Coulda fooled me.

24 posted on 10/24/2005 11:03:48 AM PDT by P8riot (When they come for your guns, give them the bullets first.)
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To: churchillbuff

This is his third. Oh by the way did you know he was a cross dresser and gay lover? (well that is going to come out in this and every Giuliani thread ya know) LOL


25 posted on 10/24/2005 11:04:30 AM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers, Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason!)
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To: Gipper08
I am becoming MORE and more confident daily that our 2008 nominee will be Mike Pence-a true Reagan Conservative.

Pence doesn't have the national name recognition & he's just a House member.

I know a lot of FReepers dislike Rudy's views, but consider this:

Rudy will repackage himself as a social and fiscal conservative and run for President. If asked why he suddenly became pro-life after years of being pro-abortion, he'll explain that as mayor of NYC, his views were more suited to the people he represented.

If there's one thing about Rudy, it's that he can take a complex issue and explain it so succinctly and break it down in plain, everyday English that even ardent opponents will be nodding their heads in agreement.

I'm not a fan of RINOs or most of the GOP, but if Rudy's the only GOP presidential candidate in 2008 (and if he exhibits genuine conservatism) it'll probably be best to throw our support behind him.

26 posted on 10/24/2005 11:05:09 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Harmful or Fatal if Swallowed)
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To: Gipper08
I am becoming MORE and more confident daily that our 2008 nominee will be Mike Pence-a true Reagan Conservative.

I know Pence is your guy and it makes sense to keep dropping his name but not he wasn't even polled here. Of course being unknown at the national level is sometimes helpful as everyone can project the candidate they really want on an unknown - it worked for Carter, Clinton and probably Dubya so maybe your crystal ball will hold. Of course that's the "stealth strategy" that is being roundly trashed here lately.

As for those predicting doom if a RINO is nominated, in RINO land it should be noted that they are also predicting doom if an anti-abortion, anti-gay, "grumpy-old" "in your bedroom" conservative is nominated. The logic (and please don't shoot me as the messenger) is that soccer moms will never vote for the right-wing hard liner. Of course people will hold Reagan up as the example where they did vote for a Conservative but then Reagan had the advantage of running against Carter and then Mondale. Hopefully the Dems will be as generous to us in 08 but I wouldn't count on it - yet again.

27 posted on 10/24/2005 11:05:09 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: curtisgardner

I don't vote for pro-choice liberals. Whether they're Rudi or the Beast.


28 posted on 10/24/2005 11:05:55 AM PDT by Reagan Man (Secure our borders;punish employers who hire illegals;stop all welfare to illegals)
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To: P8riot

LOL!


29 posted on 10/24/2005 11:06:16 AM PDT by Danae (Most Liberals don't drink the Kool-aide, they are licking the powder right out of the packet.)
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To: EagleUSA

...and not a conservative on the list.



Hmmmmmmmmm.... wonder what that says? Got any ideas?

No conservative well known enough?
Conservatives aren't a large percentage?
Poll only selected a few names to use excluding conservatives?


30 posted on 10/24/2005 11:06:29 AM PDT by deport
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To: churchillbuff

Have no idea.


31 posted on 10/24/2005 11:06:44 AM PDT by Reagan Man (Secure our borders;punish employers who hire illegals;stop all welfare to illegals)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Rudy will repackage himself as a social and fiscal conservative and run for President. If asked why he suddenly became pro-life after years of being pro-abortion, he'll explain that as mayor of NYC, his views were more suited to the people he represented.

If there's one thing about Rudy, it's that he can take a complex issue and explain it so succinctly and break it down in plain, everyday English that even ardent opponents will be nodding their heads in agreement.

I'm not a fan of RINOs or most of the GOP, but if Rudy's the only GOP presidential candidate in 2008 (and if he exhibits genuine conservatism) it'll probably be best to throw our support behind him.

YIKES do you have your flame suit on?

32 posted on 10/24/2005 11:07:12 AM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers, Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason!)
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To: churchillbuff

Rudy Giuliani (R) 54% 40%

John McCain (D) 52% 40%

Hillary Rodham Clinton (D) 48% 49%

John Edwards (D) 47% 44%

John Kerry (D) 39% 57%

Condoleezza Rice (R) 37% 57%


uhhhhhh................

I vote "NO"


33 posted on 10/24/2005 11:08:21 AM PDT by WhiteGuy (Vote for gridlock)
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To: Reagan Man
I don't vote for pro-choice liberals. Whether they're Rudi or the Beast.

So you and all the rest of the hard liners can abstain and Hillary's minions will get her elected while you sit around because the Republican candidate doesnt represent everything you stand for. There are more issues than abortion and gay marriage.

34 posted on 10/24/2005 11:09:39 AM PDT by curtisgardner
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To: BushisTheMan

They will have screwed up the stealth anti-abortion candidate, then all their conservatives choices will be tied up until 2008 -- when either Hillary or Giuliani get to pick.



Naw....... The President will have to move up his Gonzales nomination.


35 posted on 10/24/2005 11:10:27 AM PDT by deport
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To: Bahbah

They are trying to get us to nominate someone for whom the base will not vote. Don't fall for it.



I'm not. Simply stating a known fact. If this man or Mclame are the nominee, they will lose because anyone with conservative principles worth a damn could not vote for them. I will not vote for a RINO for any reason, at any time, for any office.

Might as well vote democrat, no damned difference.


36 posted on 10/24/2005 11:10:46 AM PDT by trubluolyguy (How about them Seahawks!??!)
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To: pa mom
Agreed, but if they nominate a real social conservative, they lose moderate urban and suburban voters.

Nah, if those people really care about being pro-abortion and stuff they're voting Democrat. They want government to be effective, efficient, and shut the hell up while doing it. Pragmatism is the way to reach them. Common sense solutions. If we really believe we have conservative solutions to problems of government, we should be able to sell them to the middle.

37 posted on 10/24/2005 11:10:58 AM PDT by JohnnyZ ("She was appointed by a conservative. That ought to have been enough for us." -- NotBrilliant)
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To: curtisgardner

"So you would abstain and let Hillary win? Rudy would be much better than the alternative (Hillary) if he does turn out to be the nominee, which wont even happen IMHO"

You know, that's a question I have been wrestling with of late. There is no easy answer anymore, at least not in my mind.

If, and it's a big "if", Rudy were to get the nomination, and if Hill got the dem nomination, what would I do?

Considering the lessons I have learned lately, namely RINO's and what they have done to general morale, and the consequences of their actions, I would have to think long and hard about voting for someone simply because they have an "R" after their name.

Just as I promised myself many years ago that I would never vote for a democrat again, I have promised myself I will never vote for a RINO again.

This is a question that many of us will have to deal with sooner or later.


38 posted on 10/24/2005 11:11:53 AM PDT by alarm rider (Irritating leftists as often as is humanly possible....)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist; Reagan Man
"I don't vote for pro-choice liberals. Whether they're Rudi or the Beast."

Ditto.I do not vote for socialists.period.Even if I like them personally.It is better to lose one battle than to put the overall "war" in jeopardy.The conservative movement and its survival is more important than even preventing a Clinton presidency.After all, I can imagine 4 years of Hillary would wake up alot of complacent and apathetic conservatives.
39 posted on 10/24/2005 11:11:58 AM PDT by Gipper08 (Mike Pence in 2008)
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To: churchillbuff

I remember the debate in 1992 with the pony hair guy. The guy and the question that Rush used as fodder against Liberals for a long time.

Seems Republicans also want a nanny as their President. How many time has he been married? Who gives a damn.

I want a guy who gets things done. Who will fix the mess.

Only Giuliani has a proven record of accomplishment.

Vote for a saint when everything is fixed.


40 posted on 10/24/2005 11:12:24 AM PDT by Sabramerican (Islam is to Peace as Rape is to Love)
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41 posted on 10/24/2005 11:12:44 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: churchillbuff
Giuliani Tops List of U.S. Presidential Hopefuls

Sounds good to me... and the idea that McCain is number two is also hopeful.

Normal pendulum swing of politics would indicate a switch to a Democrat this election, and I fear for the outcome of the war in Iraq if that happens. Therefore, we must put a very popular and attractive candidate up on the platform this time, one who will continue the fight. For that.... Guiliani is a super choice. Perhaps paired with Condi.

42 posted on 10/24/2005 11:12:46 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: trubluolyguy
Might as well vote democrat, no damned difference.

What an ignorant statement. Look at the voting record. McCain is not the same as Hillary. He is much more to the right and things would not be the same under both. McCain talks like a RINO around the media but when it comes time to vote, he is undeniably right of center.

43 posted on 10/24/2005 11:13:05 AM PDT by curtisgardner
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To: areafiftyone
YIKES do you have your flame suit on?

I think most people will agree with me. Of course, I'm just speculating here. But if Rudy runs on a center-right platform throughout the 2008 GOP primaries and general election, I think he'll win.

44 posted on 10/24/2005 11:13:08 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Harmful or Fatal if Swallowed)
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To: areafiftyone
YIKES do you have your flame suit on?

I think most people will agree with me. Of course, I'm just speculating here. But if Rudy runs on a center-right platform throughout the 2008 GOP primaries and general election, I think he'll win.

45 posted on 10/24/2005 11:13:15 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Harmful or Fatal if Swallowed)
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To: Reagan Man
Even if he did, he wouldn't get my vote....

Good for you! Principle over party!

or the votes of a majority of conservatives....

Are you serious? The conservatives who kneel before the gop elite will march single file into the voting booth holding their noses all the way..........

On the other hand, three years is a long time to put up with the BS coming from our current bunch.........

There may be hope yet.

46 posted on 10/24/2005 11:13:47 AM PDT by WhiteGuy (Vote for gridlock)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Psst! I agree with you. (shhhh don't tell anyone) But I"ve been flamed for even thinking that way.


47 posted on 10/24/2005 11:13:48 AM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers, Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Rudy will repackage himself as a social and fiscal conservative and run for President. If asked why he suddenly became pro-life after years of being pro-abortion, he'll explain that as mayor of NYC, his views were more suited to the people he represented.




IOW, he has no principles? Or they aren't strong enough tnot to be thrown overboard in a grasp atthe brass ring.


48 posted on 10/24/2005 11:14:13 AM PDT by trubluolyguy (How about them Seahawks!??!)
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To: JohnnyZ

I personally do not know one person, democrat or republican, that wants to see Roe overturned. (I am considered a freak in that sense.) A strong social conservative will alienate "suburban" (ie, highly educated, well-off, not super religious) voters. May not matter to most people, but it is a fact.

FYI, I am in the philly burbs.


49 posted on 10/24/2005 11:15:04 AM PDT by pa mom
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To: churchillbuff
Giuliani Tops List of U.S. Presidential Hopefuls

...don't you have to announce your intentions before becoming a hopeful?

Doogle

50 posted on 10/24/2005 11:15:28 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF...7thAF ..4077th TFW...408th MMS..Ubon Thailand.."69",,Night Line Delivery..AMMO)
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