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UNESCO to U.S.: Drop Dead!
The American Enterprise Online ^ | 10/26/05 | Neil Hrab

Posted on 10/26/2005 7:00:59 AM PDT by Valin

Last Thursday, the United States was sucker-punched by an international organization. A majority of countries belonging to the United Nations Educational, Scientific, and Cultural Organization (UNESCO) voted to support a joint French and Canadian initiative aimed at making it easier for foreign governments to limit consumer access to American cultural products.

Most newspapers that covered the story portrayed the vote as a humiliation for the United States. (Indeed, the vote wasn’t even close—only the U.S. and Israel dissented.) The International Herald Tribune, for example, blared in its headline, “U.S. All but Alone in Opposing UNESCO Cultural Pact.” An A.P. story in Newsday trumpeted “U.S. Out in Cold in UNESCO Diversity Pact.” Our friends at the Sydney Morning Herald looked to Ahnold for inspiration: “U.N. Plays Terminator to American Film Industry.”

Just one day later, the Toronto-based Globe and Mail ran an opinion piece by Dr. Michael Byers, who holds a Canada research chair in global politics and international law at the University of British Columbia. His op-ed revealed some surprising means by which the Canadian government worked behind the scenes to ensure the UNESCO agreement would pass. He wrote that, as far back as 1997, “Sheila Copps, then Canadian heritage minister, had already organized an international network of culture ministers and funded the formation of a parallel non-governmental association [italics added],” which subsequently supported the cause of greater cultural protectionism.

This raises some interesting questions. How much did the Canadian government spend on this association? Should it be called “non-governmental” if a government was intimately involved in its creation? Dr. Byers did not name the association, but he may have been referring to the International Network for Cultural Diversity, a self-described “world-wide network of artists and cultural groups” that favors increased cultural protectionism.

Moreover, if Canada hadn’t funded the formation of this non-governmental association, would the pro-treaty campaign have gotten off the ground? Does this detract at all from the UNESCO treaty’s legitimacy?

The U.S. earns about $80 billion a year from the export of its popular culture. While certain global, political, and cultural elites may loathe certain elements of this export, the global masses certainly do not. If hatred of U.S. popular culture had any major traction, that $80 billion figure would shrink all on its own—without any government intervention or UNESCO treaties. That Canada had to fund a pro-cultural protectionism group to build support for the UNESCO treaty is but one sign of the hate-Hollywood crowd’s isolation from mainstream global opinion.

That isolation is further manifested in the alliance required to pass the UNESCO treaty. Canada and France had to win over the despotisms of Iran and Zimbabwe, both of which belong to the Canada-based International Network on Cultural Policy. What wonderful (and increasingly predictable) bedfellows.

Respectable supporters of cultural protectionism feigned surprise when they learned that Canada and France couldn’t turn down help from the mullahs of Tehran or Robert Mugabe. But there’s a lesson here for Ottawa and Paris: when you find yourselves on the same side of an issue as some of the global village’s top thugs, you may want to re-think your position.

Canada and France present themselves as models of cultural achievement and openness. How they can strike this pose while limiting consumer access to foreign cultural goods is a mystery. That they’re willing to cozy up to rogue states in order to get the treaty passed is a disgrace.

Neil Hrab was the 2003 Warren T. Brookes Fellow at the Competitive Enterprise Institute.


TOPICS: Canada; Editorial; Foreign Affairs
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1 posted on 10/26/2005 7:01:00 AM PDT by Valin
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To: Valin

What ever our government is paying to support UNESCO should be reduced by the amount American businesses stand to lose from this measure, or, better yet, just be eliminated entirely.


2 posted on 10/26/2005 7:06:34 AM PDT by Huntress (Possession really is nine tenths of the law.)
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To: Valin

Hey Alec Baldwin, France doesn't want your crappy movies. But move there anyways.


3 posted on 10/26/2005 7:06:46 AM PDT by evolved_rage
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To: Valin
The U.S. earns about $80 billion a year from the export of its popular culture.

If I'm reading the article correctly, the "Cultural products" are mostly movies and music. On one hand, I want to support American businesses, but OTOH the world is kinda sticking it to Hollywierd. Given the amount of crap that passes for "cultural products" these days, it might be nice to limit them here too....

4 posted on 10/26/2005 7:10:38 AM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: Valin
Of course, this takes place while the USA is on a "diversity" bender of an entirely different sort.

While they lock our culture out, we are sponsoring and adopting more and more of outsider's culture - and making it a crime to complain.

5 posted on 10/26/2005 7:10:56 AM PDT by norton (This is not about the DIA or the CIA. This is about CYA...)
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To: evolved_rage

Did i missed the good news? Baldwin moving to Frogland??? :-)


6 posted on 10/26/2005 7:11:53 AM PDT by QQQQ
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To: Valin

UNESCO - yet another reason for the United States to get out of the UN, withhold ALL money now going to the UN, evict every single despot in the UN building, then implode the UN building itself!! After all we do for these ingrates, this is the way they thank us!! (rant off)


7 posted on 10/26/2005 7:11:58 AM PDT by Polyxene (For where God built a church, there the Devil would also build a chapel - Martin Luther)
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To: Valin

If the world wants RAP...We are doomed...


8 posted on 10/26/2005 7:12:27 AM PDT by Dallas59 (“You love life, while we love death.” - Al-Qaeda / Democratic Party)
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To: Valin
Who can blame them? Fully 99.9% of what comes out of Hollywood is pig swill.

But in the interest of fairness,any country that restricts our Hollywood output can expect us to limit their airplanes..TVs...cars....sugar...steel,
etc,etc.

9 posted on 10/26/2005 7:15:21 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative
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To: Valin
Thank you George Bush, for entangling the US UNESCO where Reagan had got us out.
10 posted on 10/26/2005 7:17:45 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are REALLY stupid.)
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To: Huntress

Better yet, we should eliminate all funding for any international organization with the letters U & N in it.


11 posted on 10/26/2005 7:21:27 AM PDT by rhc2000
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To: evolved_rage

LOL!


12 posted on 10/26/2005 7:21:59 AM PDT by GVnana
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To: Valin

Slowly but surely the UN dissolves into fascism and sows the seeds of it's own demise.


13 posted on 10/26/2005 7:23:49 AM PDT by GVnana
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To: Valin

By "cultural products" I presume they mean American movies (sorry Johnny Depp, Brad-gelina, George Clooney and Gwyneth Paltrow), American music (sorry Madonna)....and Big Macs?

Looking forward to seeing the euro/asian consumer reaction to replacement culture from Canada! Helllooo Celine Dion!


14 posted on 10/26/2005 7:24:20 AM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: Valin

I guess ending the worldwide sex-slave trading of children will have to wait for more important issues to be settled first by UNESCO


15 posted on 10/26/2005 7:24:27 AM PDT by Semper Paratus
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To: Valin
US to UNESCO. FU. Go away or we'll taunt you some more.
16 posted on 10/26/2005 7:26:08 AM PDT by playball0
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To: Carry_Okie
Thank you George Bush, for entangling the US UNESCO where Reagan had got us out.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Bush sign back onto UNESCO as part of his bid to get the UN to support military action in Iraq? If so, Bush was double-suckered.

17 posted on 10/26/2005 7:28:02 AM PDT by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: Valin

Talk about irony. The biggest supporters of the UN in the entire US is Hollyweird, now the UN has told them to get lost. I hate to say it, but I love it!


18 posted on 10/26/2005 7:29:29 AM PDT by Bob Buchholz
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To: Valin
US to UNESCO. FU. Go away or we'll taunt you some more.
19 posted on 10/26/2005 7:30:42 AM PDT by playball0
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To: Valin
...voted to support a joint French and Canadian initiative aimed at making it easier for foreign governments to limit consumer access to American cultural products.

Why? What are they afraid of? That the consumer will prefer "American cultural products" to native culture products? Why are they afraid of this? Could it be that American marketing has hit the mark when it comes to consumer demand, while with "native cultural products" Big Unions, not consumers, are calling the shots? (Ah, yes, nothing like Albanian tennis shoes.)

And...since most US clothing products are made in China, Mexico, etc. isn't this stance against "American cultural products" a kind of back-handed slap at the workers China, Mexico, etc.?

Or could this whole resolution be nothing but a kind of deliberate waspishness, a sort of "Ha! So there! Whatta you gonna do now, Mister Bigshot?" attitude.

And last but not least there's the Versailles mentality of the signers of this resolution. The soft condescension of the aristocrats/anointed acting for the "good" of the great-unwashed of their people. Considering the grown men and women of their countries as little more than children who can not be left to make decisions on their own.

20 posted on 10/26/2005 7:31:04 AM PDT by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: Semper Paratus

Bump.


21 posted on 10/26/2005 7:33:07 AM PDT by GVnana
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To: Valin
Last Thursday, the United States was sucker-punched by an international organization. A majority of countries belonging to the United Nations Educational, Scientific, and Cultural Organization (UNESCO) voted to support a joint French and Canadian initiative aimed at making it easier for foreign governments to limit consumer access to American cultural products.

I think that this might well be a violation of GATT. While there are cultural exceptions to free trade under GATT in order to preserve an indigenous culture, I don't think that you can single out a single country.

BTW, having done research on this issue in Law School, Canada and France are the two biggest tools on this issue. Canada even went so far as to screw over the Country Music Channel (CMT) in favor of their own country music station (CNC) under the cultural exception even though there was little or no difference in the perceivable content. It was a $$$ scam.

http://www.american.edu/TED/cmtvcan.htm

Likewise, France declared war on the American entertainment industry calling movies like "Jurassic Park" the biggest threat to French culture. Dont ask me how a movie about dinesaurs that takes place on an island off the coast of South America is a threat to the French.

http://reason.com/9807/fe.cowen.shtml

In a contest between Hollywood and the French, who do I want to lose?

22 posted on 10/26/2005 7:42:42 AM PDT by Smedley
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To: doc30
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Bush sign back onto UNESCO as part of his bid to get the UN to support military action in Iraq? If so, Bush was double-suckered.

Yup, and so were we.

23 posted on 10/26/2005 7:50:50 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are REALLY stupid.)
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To: Valin
I think we should withdraw from the UN, stop paying our dues, and give them a 30 day eviction notice from their New York City headquarters. Then we'd see who gets the last laugh.
24 posted on 10/26/2005 7:51:54 AM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: Smedley

Maybe we should ban all "cultural exchanges" with the French and Canadians. This would eliminate a lot of the SNL crowd, the movies produced in Canada and other such exchanges. I guess it's too late on the news anchor front.


25 posted on 10/26/2005 7:52:01 AM PDT by A Strict Constructionist
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To: Valin

All I can say is that the boycotts must have done some sizable damage : )

Bush needs to immediately tender our resignation in UNESCO.


26 posted on 10/26/2005 7:52:26 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl ("President Bush, start building that wall"!)
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To: Valin
This resolution is nothing more than an end run to avoid the provisions the various trade treaties which have gone into effect over the last several years. (NAFTA and others.) There is virtually no commodity that a Country cannot claim is intrinsically part of the national culture. (Think French wine). Thus, this resolution allows countries to put bans and quotas on imports of these important "culture destroying commodities". I bet a month's pay that within a couple of years France will put quotas on the import of Californian wines in order to protect France's "cultural identity". Take it to the bank.
27 posted on 10/26/2005 7:57:29 AM PDT by joebuck
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To: joebuck

Ahh Canada what a great ally. /sarcasm
Getting to be more like an enemy day after day.


28 posted on 10/26/2005 8:04:10 AM PDT by MARKUSPRIME
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To: Valin

Kick the UN out of the US.


29 posted on 10/26/2005 8:04:15 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Valin
US to UNESCO, C'nucks, eh...., and Frogs, n'est-ce pas?.....

Kiss my red-white-&-blue... A$$
And don't let the screen door hit you in your soft-man tushies...
ON THE WAY OUT!!

Have a nice day

30 posted on 10/26/2005 8:06:19 AM PDT by Wings-n-Wind (The answers are out there; Wisdom is gained by asking the right questions)
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To: Valin
US to UNESCO. FU. Go away or we'll taunt you some more.
31 posted on 10/26/2005 8:13:21 AM PDT by playball0
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To: Valin

I am confused. I thought they were on the same side, Hollywood and the anti-american left!!! Ah well just goes to show you that the left always eats their own.


32 posted on 10/26/2005 8:15:17 AM PDT by bubman
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To: Valin
Most newspapers that covered the story portrayed the vote as a humiliation for the United States.

I don't usually laugh out loud when reading a news report, but this one did it.

The truly humorous part is that the reporter seems to share the tribal primitive belief that "humiliation" is the ultimate crime, so felt a need to repeat what the helpless savages have attempted: pretend that they are capable of humiliating their betters.
Obviously, if I am laughing, humiliation must not be far behind.
LOL!

33 posted on 10/26/2005 8:17:52 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: Valin

I don't get it...how does this hurt me as a citizen of the United States of America?


34 posted on 10/26/2005 8:17:59 AM PDT by Getsmart64
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To: QQQQ
Did i missed the good news? Baldwin moving to Frogland??? :-)

Only if Bush is elected, then re-elected...

35 posted on 10/26/2005 8:19:29 AM PDT by LearnsFromMistakes (We know the right things to do, why don't we just do them?)
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To: Carry_Okie

uh...please explain to me how this hurts me as an average US citizen?


36 posted on 10/26/2005 8:19:42 AM PDT by Getsmart64
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To: Valin
As I said before free global trade is the best option. Wonder how the protectionists on this forum react to this. The people that are against free global trade find themselves in a strange position after reading this article. If they criticize this they criticize themselves and they have double standards.
Go free trade.
37 posted on 10/26/2005 8:21:13 AM PDT by tomjohn77
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To: The_Victor
The U.S. earns about $80 billion a year from the export of its popular culture.
If I'm reading the article correctly, the "Cultural products" are mostly movies and music. On one hand, I want to support American businesses, but OTOH the world is kinda sticking it to Hollywierd. Given the amount of crap that passes for "cultural products" these days, it might be nice to limit them here too....

I agree. Last night (Tues) at 8:00 pm (family hour?) on NCIS there was a graphic sex/porn scene which culminated in a murder (you actually see the woman's throat slit, blood and all) and this is in the first five minutes of the show. It's a CBS network show. My husband was like, "they show this kind of crap on TV now? What happened to family hour, it's only 8:00." We turned it off. Most movies and television are worthless, boring, stupid, inane...I don't have enough adjectives. Maybe Hollyweird should come up with a better product, then everyone would want it. A market-driven economy does work, the advertisers should know this.
38 posted on 10/26/2005 8:22:49 AM PDT by khnyny (all glory is fleeting)
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To: Valin

LOL. Trying to limit them will make them more attractive and sought after.


39 posted on 10/26/2005 8:23:28 AM PDT by kabar
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To: The_Victor
The U.S. earns about $80 billion a year from the export of its popular culture.
If I'm reading the article correctly, the "Cultural products" are mostly movies and music. On one hand, I want to support American businesses, but OTOH the world is kinda sticking it to Hollywierd. Given the amount of crap that passes for "cultural products" these days, it might be nice to limit them here too....

I agree. Last night (Tues) at 8:00 pm (family hour?) on NCIS there was a graphic sex/porn scene which culminated in a murder (you actually see the woman's throat slit, blood and all) and this is in the first five minutes of the show. It's a CBS network show. My husband was like, "they show this kind of crap on TV now? What happened to family hour, it's only 8:00." We turned it off. Most movies and television are worthless, boring, stupid, inane...I don't have enough adjectives. Maybe Hollyweird should come up with a better product, then everyone would want it. A market-driven economy does work, the advertisers should know this.
40 posted on 10/26/2005 8:24:22 AM PDT by khnyny (all glory is fleeting)
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To: khnyny
on NCIS there was a graphic sex/porn scene which culminated in a murder (you actually see the woman's throat slit, blood and all)

LOL!
You should have kept watching, since that scene was the only "fake" scene in the entire episode, and the key to finding the real murderess.

41 posted on 10/26/2005 8:28:38 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: The_Victor

Yeah, this is red on red from where I stand.


42 posted on 10/26/2005 8:28:59 AM PDT by thoughtomator
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To: Valin

The Law of Unintended Consequences should have an interesting effect, here. Many movies, TV shows and TV commercials are filmed in Canada due to their lower costs.

With this UNESCO deal, Canada may have sucker-punched itself while it was sucker-punching Hollyweird. Though the Hollyweirdos are dumb as a bunch of rocks, even they can figure out what is going to happen to their cushy lifestyle if their "products" are withheld from foreign markets.

This whole stupid thing is to laugh.


43 posted on 10/26/2005 8:34:28 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: Valin
I don't blame the world for wanting to reject all of the smut that comes out of Hollywood. I wish the US would too. That said, a far more important message here is that Canada, who is supposed, to be our FRIEND has stuck the screws to us again.

EVERY SINGLE TIME that there is a dispute with ANY country in the world, the WTO, WHO, UN, et al, a fine/decision is ALWAYS against the US! That bunch of stupid bast*rds in DC have their heads up their a$$es so far, that they can't see the light of day! By the time they see what they've done, the US will be a third world country! We can thank President Bush for the latest suck up to the UN, and it's costing us a fortune. That and all of the unconstitutional trade agreements he's made with Canada, Mexico and the rest of the world, have screwed us beyond the point of repair.

44 posted on 10/26/2005 8:49:46 AM PDT by NRA2BFree
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To: Valin
“Sheila Copps, then Canadian heritage minister, had already organized an international network of culture ministers

Heritage Ministers? Culture Ministers?

This sounds like a Mony Python routine. I love this stuff.

I've decided I want to be a Heritage Minister. I'm going to promote the authentic tribal traditions of my people, which is bass fishing, fast-pitch softball, and barbecue. If you say anything against it, you're a racist. And you'll have to say "please" if you want seconds.

45 posted on 10/26/2005 8:51:53 AM PDT by marron
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To: Getsmart64
It's subtle. UNESCO has direct connections into the US Department of Education, promoting all sorts of PC iniatives, GBLTQ stuff, etc. They organize children's organizations into global associations, such as the Girl Scouts USA, now a part of the World Association of Girl Scouts and Girl Guides with a stated goal of producing "citizens of the earth." They have an ongoing claim on American monuments, such as Independence Hall. They have a say in how the US manages its national parks. UN officials have precluded maintenance of historic CCC buildings within Yellowstone for example. They run the Biosphere Reserve Programme which places large amounts of private property under UN "guidelines" exercising unconstitutional land use demands as enforced by American bureaucrats. Here's an example of that system at work. They run the "Man and Biosphere" programme (like the pagan logo?). Part of that programme is the Wildlands Project, which seeks to set aside 50% of the continental US as "no entry" zones, effectively cutting up the country and requiring permits to travel (they're really big on bringing wolves to your neighborhood). Then there's the Agenda21, or Sustainable Development, which is the essential backbone for Global Governance under the UN. That will affect every aspect of your life.

No big deal, really, nothing to see, just pretend it's an empty gesture and you'll feel just fine about it.

46 posted on 10/26/2005 8:51:56 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: Valin

We haven't been terribly dependent on those Euro-peons since the Revolutionary War.


47 posted on 10/26/2005 8:54:04 AM PDT by RoadTest ((And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven. (Mat. 23:9))
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To: rhc2000

There ya go!


48 posted on 10/26/2005 8:55:49 AM PDT by RoadTest ((And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven. (Mat. 23:9))
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To: GVgirl
Slowly but surely the UN dissolves into fascism and sows the seeds of it's own demise.

Yes. Interesting that the very people who stand to lose the most in this are some of the UN's biggest public supporters. Hollywood liberals may just turn spiteful.

49 posted on 10/26/2005 9:08:07 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Publius6961
The truly humorous part is that the reporter seems to share the tribal primitive belief that "humiliation" is the ultimate crime,

When you're reactions are those of a narcissistic juvenile, that's right--humiliation is the worst thing imaginable--for a twelve year-old.

50 posted on 10/26/2005 9:13:27 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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