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Births to Unmarried U.S. Women Set Record
Yahoo!News ^ | October 28, 2005 | RANDOLPH E. SCHMID

Posted on 10/28/2005 11:58:41 AM PDT by mlc9852

WASHINGTON - Nearly 1.5 million babies, a record, were born to unmarried women in the United States last year, the government reported Friday. And it isn't just teenagers any more. ADVERTISEMENT [0]

"People have the impression that teens and unmarried mothers are synonymous," said Stephanie Ventura of the National Center for Health Statistics.

But last year teens accounted for just 24 percent of unwed births, down from 50 percent in 1970, she commented.

The increases in unmarried births have been among women in their 20s, she said, particularly those 25 to 29.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: bastardsrus; census; otemporaomores; trends; whosyourdaddy
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1 posted on 10/28/2005 11:58:41 AM PDT by mlc9852
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To: mlc9852

There is a guy here in my office who has 3 illegitimate children already. Two are within 2 months of each other. I sure would hate to see that guy take a well placed shot to the nuts.

The women should work on avoiding sex, but the guys should also work to stop spreading their seed.


2 posted on 10/28/2005 12:00:31 PM PDT by T.Smith
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To: mlc9852
So what?

Fathers are irrelevant these days.

Katie Colic told me so.

3 posted on 10/28/2005 12:01:35 PM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: mlc9852
I guess I need to start looking for women between 20 and 30 to go out with. Those between 30-45 and decent are hard to find.
4 posted on 10/28/2005 12:01:42 PM PDT by vetvetdoug (Shiloh, Corinth, Iuka, Brices Crossroads, Harrisburg, Britton Lane, Holly Springs, Hatchie Bridge,)
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To: mlc9852

Marriage? What is that they say.


5 posted on 10/28/2005 12:02:07 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (Socialist Dems, the MSM and Islamic murderers, ALL threats to the Republic!)
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To: mlc9852

Ah, yes, the "Lifestyle Mommies." We must not judge them, for that would be judgemental.

In a little under two generations, we have gone from a child being born out of wedlock as an event that is nothing to crow about, and even something to be ashamed of(and the mother was always an object lesson of what not to do with your life to young people, especially young women)...to it being a "lifestyle choice."

We arrive at this sorry situation after abortion on demand, nonjudgementalism and inchoate defiance have formed a perfect confluence.

Since I have backed into this subject before on FR, and had to deal with serious hysterical incoming, let me make clear what I'm saying and what I'm not saying.

I am NOT saying that these children should have been aborted, for God's sake. I am also not saying that such children are "less worthy" than those born to married couples. I have been accused of both those, many times, simply for lamenting this situation.

I am saying: This is not the best situation, for a kid. It does not bode well for society. As for the new single mothers who are in "domestic living" situations...girls, don't you realize that not demanding that the guy make you "an honest woman" by marrying you and setting up a legitimate household (yeah, I'll use the word "legitimate," go ahead and sue me), you are literally leaving the door open for him to take a walk at some very inconvenient point for you? Then what will happen to the child born of your "lifestyle" choice.

Oh, there's another thing I've been hit with before: So many marriages end in divorce, you can understand why people don't bother getting married. Yeah, keep thinking like that, the socialist-secularist-society-destroyers just love it to death when the masses parrot their aims back to them. Oh, and they're the people who want to do so much "for the children"...unless it involves doing all you can for their emotional and physical stability.

Pop quiz: How do the majority of lifestyle moms vote? Especially, how do they vote five or six years down the road, when responsibilities and expenses start to overwhelm them?

Hey, I feel pretty good now. A blistering attack against the unhealthy society the liberals have transformed us into over the last 30 years always gives me relief...for about 20 minutes.


6 posted on 10/28/2005 12:02:08 PM PDT by John Robertson ( Safe Travel)
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To: mlc9852

What a shame. I feel so sorry for those children.


7 posted on 10/28/2005 12:02:42 PM PDT by American Quilter (Why doesn't the government have to pay taxes on its income?)
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To: mlc9852

America...Europization in session.


8 posted on 10/28/2005 12:02:58 PM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: mlc9852

Until the Government stops paying for most of these bastards nothing will change.


9 posted on 10/28/2005 12:03:00 PM PDT by moasicwolf
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To: vetvetdoug

"Those between 30-45 and decent are hard to find.

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Try your local church. That's where the decent women are.


10 posted on 10/28/2005 12:03:45 PM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: John Robertson

And women's lib made this all sound like such a great thing. They were very, very wrong and children are paying the price.


11 posted on 10/28/2005 12:03:53 PM PDT by mlc9852
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To: CarrotAndStick

"America...Europization in session."

Yep. Some of us can't seem to get there fast enough.


12 posted on 10/28/2005 12:04:47 PM PDT by L98Fiero
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To: mlc9852

Marriage does seem to be declining in the USA. The rest of the article is interesting.


13 posted on 10/28/2005 12:05:05 PM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: mlc9852

I would like a race breakdown


14 posted on 10/28/2005 12:05:11 PM PDT by tbird5
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To: John Robertson
We arrive at this sorry situation after abortion on demand, nonjudgementalism and inchoate defiance have formed a perfect confluence.

Well stated. I agree with your entire post.

15 posted on 10/28/2005 12:05:31 PM PDT by American Quilter (Why doesn't the government have to pay taxes on its income?)
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To: mlc9852

I've done a lot of work with unwed mothers. I help them get off to a good start.

What can I say, I like to give back to the community.


16 posted on 10/28/2005 12:05:56 PM PDT by NavVet (“Benedict Arnold was wounded in battle fighting for America, but no one remembers him for that.”)
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To: mlc9852

"Births to Unmarried U.S. Women Set Record"


17 posted on 10/28/2005 12:06:31 PM PDT by jdm
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To: MineralMan

Why bother to get married any more? Especially with such high divorce rates. And with benefits available to "partners" now, not much reason to I guess.


18 posted on 10/28/2005 12:07:04 PM PDT by mlc9852
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To: mlc9852
And women's lib made this all sound like such a great thing. They were very, very wrong and children are paying the price.

And so are we all, since we have to deal with those children and the adults they become.

19 posted on 10/28/2005 12:07:40 PM PDT by American Quilter (Why doesn't the government have to pay taxes on its income?)
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To: mlc9852

Are we turning into a nation of b@$#@%*$?


20 posted on 10/28/2005 12:07:49 PM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: Izzy Dunne
"Fathers are irrelevant these days....Katie Colic told me so."


21 posted on 10/28/2005 12:07:59 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum.)
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To: mlc9852

Looks like we're going to need to build more jails.


22 posted on 10/28/2005 12:07:59 PM PDT by He'sComingBack! (Just another National Championship from the "weak" PAC-10)
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To: tbird5

I don't think it's really necessary. But it is happening more and more across all races and economic situations.


24 posted on 10/28/2005 12:08:04 PM PDT by mlc9852
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To: Izzy Dunne

I though Hillery said it took a village.


25 posted on 10/28/2005 12:08:28 PM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: T.Smith

And your employer is OK with that? Doesn't that tell them something about the person he is?

US is truly doomed.


26 posted on 10/28/2005 12:08:35 PM PDT by nikola
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To: mlc9852

A better title may be: "More Sluts in US than Ever Before".


27 posted on 10/28/2005 12:08:36 PM PDT by Lunkhead_01
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To: mlc9852
Why bother to get married any more?

If the terms of marriage were reversed and women were required to enter a legally subserviant position i.e. surrender their future income and their children at the drop of a hat, I very much doubt women would marry.

28 posted on 10/28/2005 12:09:37 PM PDT by AdamSelene235 (Truth has become so rare and precious she is always attended to by a bodyguard of lies.)
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To: mlc9852
This is the only thing feminism has accomplished
29 posted on 10/28/2005 12:09:42 PM PDT by slowhand520
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To: Lunkhead_01

Takes two to tango - well, it used to.


30 posted on 10/28/2005 12:09:57 PM PDT by mlc9852
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To: tbird5

"I would like a race breakdown"

I don't know that one, but I can do a nice "Foggy Mountain Breakdown" for you if you have a couple of minutes.

Did you think about clicking and reading the article. I think you'll find the info you want there.


31 posted on 10/28/2005 12:09:59 PM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: T.Smith

People tend to get what they deserve. The women in those situations got what they deserve.


32 posted on 10/28/2005 12:10:03 PM PDT by HitmanLV (Listen to my demos for Savage Nation contest: http://www.geocities.com/mr_vinnie_vegas/index.html)
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To: HitmanNY

But it's the children who really suffer.


33 posted on 10/28/2005 12:10:40 PM PDT by mlc9852
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To: tbird5
I believe this a race breakdown in general from 2003 to 2004, not just for unwed births, but here goes:

White: 18,000 fewer births in 2004 than 2003

Hispanic: 32,000 more births in 2004 than 2003

Asian: 8,000 more births in 2004 than 2003

Black: 72 more births in 2004 than 2003

34 posted on 10/28/2005 12:10:50 PM PDT by LWalk18
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To: mlc9852

"Why bother to get married any more? Especially with such high divorce rates."

I guess I'm a traditionalist. I'm in favor of marriage. It add stability to a relationship, especially if there are children. Now, I never had children, but I'm sure happy to be married to a wonderful woman.


35 posted on 10/28/2005 12:11:45 PM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: vetvetdoug

Hey there are some of us over 45 (I'm 48) who are decent!


36 posted on 10/28/2005 12:11:45 PM PDT by proudofthesouth (Boycotting movies since 1988)
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To: mlc9852

True - they aren't getting what they deserve. They just had the misfortune of being born to an irresponsible parent.

As a public policy matter, there isn't much we can do I am afraid.


37 posted on 10/28/2005 12:11:51 PM PDT by HitmanLV (Listen to my demos for Savage Nation contest: http://www.geocities.com/mr_vinnie_vegas/index.html)
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To: mlc9852

"And women's lib made this all sound like such a great thing. They were very, very wrong and children are paying the price."

And what kinds of "families" will these children make, one day? What the heck are their reference points?


38 posted on 10/28/2005 12:12:58 PM PDT by John Robertson ( Safe Travel)
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To: John Robertson
Look at America in the 1950s and look at America in the year 2005. We may have progressed in some ways but morals have steadily decayed since then.

I praise all who are hard working honest Americans. I also praise those who stick together as husband and wife and do their best to make things work out.

39 posted on 10/28/2005 12:13:15 PM PDT by 2nd_Amendment_Defender ("It is when people forget God that tyrants forge their chains." -- Patrick Henry)
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To: John Robertson

Well said. While single parents deserve our help through acts of kindness and charity as needed, it is not the best situation and we should never pretend that it is.


40 posted on 10/28/2005 12:13:15 PM PDT by Zack Nguyen
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To: John Robertson

I have a co-worker who has two children from two different fathers, neither of which care to see their kids, nor pay a dime for them.

The girl is in her early 20's and is already on many forms of state assistance to help pay for her poor choices. Housing assistance, free medical, free dental, food stamps, free day care, the works.

She's obviously able to work, since she's working here, but she only wants to work part-time. See, if she works ful time then she makes too much money, and will lose much of her assistance.

We were talking earlier this week about medical insurance, and I was talking about how expensive mine is. $420 a month, plus a $500 deductible per person, per year. She starts bragging about her "plan", saying that she gets everything free and "it dont' cost me nothin' - it's great!"

I simply said, "you're welcome" and walked out of the room.

Welfare, single parenting, one-night hook-ups that result in kids were once shameful things that used to carry a stigma. No longer. Now they're proud of how well they're screwing the system to get everything for free.

Makes me sick, to be perfectly honest.


41 posted on 10/28/2005 12:13:38 PM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow ("Heart of my own heart, whatever befall")
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To: mlc9852

That's something to be real proud of.


42 posted on 10/28/2005 12:13:46 PM PDT by Old Grumpy
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To: mlc9852
Children have rights too. This is not just about consenting adults. Parents have an obligation to their children that results from bringing their child into the world. Parents do not have the right to abandon their children. This is ultimately a human rights issue.
43 posted on 10/28/2005 12:14:14 PM PDT by Jibaholic (The facts of life are conservative - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: mlc9852

Formal marriage is more or less irrelevant in Scandinavia and elsewhere in North-Western Europe as a social arrangement these days. This does not mean that folks don't live in monogamous relationships. It's just that formal marriage, a formalization of a human relationship, is not anymore seen as the only possible indicator of a long-term commitment between a man and woman.


44 posted on 10/28/2005 12:14:15 PM PDT by Truthsayer20
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To: MineralMan

Oh, I think marriage is extremely important, especially if you want children. But being a realist, I see it becoming less and less important to the younger generation. So many children have siblings they don't even know. I don't expect it to get better any time soon.


45 posted on 10/28/2005 12:15:30 PM PDT by mlc9852
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To: nikola
And your employer is OK with that? Doesn't that tell them something about the person he is?

Our company is self-insured for health insurance, so we have paid for two of those babies. Yes, he got two women in the office pregnant.

46 posted on 10/28/2005 12:16:11 PM PDT by T.Smith
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To: American Quilter

Thanks. Appreciate.


47 posted on 10/28/2005 12:16:19 PM PDT by John Robertson ( Safe Travel)
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To: ItsOurTimeNow

You summed it up well. Doesn't bode well for the future of the US.


48 posted on 10/28/2005 12:18:35 PM PDT by mlc9852
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To: mlc9852

"Oh, I think marriage is extremely important, especially if you want children. But being a realist, I see it becoming less and less important to the younger generation. So many children have siblings they don't even know. I don't expect it to get better any time soon."

I guess it all depends, but I sure seem to be buying lots of wedding presents for nieces and nephews these days. Seems like there's a wedding every other week in my family and my wife's family. And the ones that are already married? Man, they're making babies at a frightening rate.

This is going to adversely affect my bank balance, I'm sure. As a childless uncle and aunt, my wife and I...well let's just say there are expectations of us.

Love those kids!


49 posted on 10/28/2005 12:18:38 PM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: John Robertson; T'wit; Eurotwit
Agree...Pinging the twit (Candice Bergen) on "Murphy Brown"

Please explain, WHY You (and your TV staff) did this?..in 1991..the glorification of B@st@rds / S!uts...Hmmm?

w/ apologies to twit, eurotwit

50 posted on 10/28/2005 12:18:58 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :^)
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