Posted on 10/28/2005 11:58:41 AM PDT by mlc9852
Yep. Marie married Tony after getting knocked up at 19. He was a bum, but she stayed around "for da kids" until she couldn't take it anymore. Now she's a rinsed out 35-going-on-65 regular at the TGI Fridays in Bellmore/Valley Stream/Deer Park/East Meadow surrounded by carbon copies of the loser she married.
The folks in Longisland are already two or more generations out of Hell's Kitchen, Brooklyn and the Bronx.
I agree with most all of what you said.
However,there are many of us out here who understand that marriage is not for them.
Not because we are trying to promote some"liberal-socialist"agenda but because we have never met anyone who has even COME CLOSE to sharing our hopes,dreams and vision.
At least I never have.So why should I marry someone who I caanot in my own conscience feel comfortable with?
I'll add that few people knew they weren't married either, as everyone just assumes that couples who have the white picket fence, the kids, etc are married. I've discovered over the years that there are an awful lot of people out there who never got around to getting married, and it appears to be increasing in the younger generations.
I agree with you on all points.
Basically any chain restaurant in the country. Though I should have said "Friday" night and not "Saturday night." I've become fascinated with suburban chain restaurants after a recent business trip.
"Try your local church"
Mimeral man,some of the most scandalous females i have met are
"good Christian women"
Not saying they are WORSE than non chuchgoers.Just no BETTER
Good for you! That was the perfect response. (Though she may not have "gotten it.") When I'm in those situations, I never think of the right thing to say until much later.
I remember hanging out at Green Acres, Roosevelt Field, or Lido Beach when EVERY GIRL you saw had hair as high as a fence post.
Getting back on topic, I would still like to see rates of illegitimacy by state. Anyone have any figures out there?
check out the movie: Boiler Room. You'll enjoy it.
I like older women, but I prefer them to be independent and not have children. Something ladies should think about should they decide to pop one out: you aren't as attractive to the men out there unless you are a total slut, and IN THAT CASE, you will only get the bottom of the barrel.
One woman in a chain restaurant asked me if my suit was Armani. When I told her the name that she didn't recognized, she just walked away as if I'd cheated her somehow...cracked me up.
Heh. I grew up in the church, way out in rural Red State country, as my father was a minister/preacher among other things (yes, I'm a preacher's son). Those "good Christian women" were no more pure or chaste, even back then, than the women in California cities are today. The only difference was that they tried to bury the scandalous behavior out in Red State country, but now it isn't even gossip-worthy.
yes, I'm a preacher's son.
What was that like? And do they really call you a PK?
The vast majority of Hispanic births are to illegal immigrants with the reasoning that the child born on American soil is a citizen...thereby making it difficult to deport parents.
The African American do it to increase their welfare check and well because there is no husband.
As you can probably tell, I am not the definition of political correctness.
And this makes it right because....?
It makes it human, no one said anything about right but you.
"Why brand the innocent children as bastards?"
It's not a "brand," it's what they are; it's descriptive.
Sorta like, 'judgmental jerk' That's not a brand, that's descriptive, wouldn't you say?
"That's harsh."
Of course it is. And it's probably even judgmental. But it might make some of these illegitimate kids grow up and want to do the right thing, in defiance of their irresponsible parents, and get married themselves before they have kids.
So you're Omnipotent and know every single child born out of wedlock, what they made with their life? How presumptuous of you to assume to know what they have and have not done in their lives? You seem to be forgetting a little something here...'judge not, lest ye be judged'.
You send the children born out of wedlock to the dark side of the universe, like they aren't good enough to be around legit children. All I'm saying is, it's better that they were born than aborted. I shouldn't have to say that, but I see the glass half full, while some see it have empty. The 1.5 million women could have taken the abortion route, but they didn't, give them credit for their choice.
Thou, Nature, art my goddess; to thy law
My services are bound. Wherefore should I 4
Stand in the plague of custom, and permit
The curiosity of nations to deprive me,
For that I am some twelve or fourteen moonshines
Lag of a brother? Why bastard? wherefore base? 8
When my dimensions are as well compact,
My mind as generous, and my shape as true,
As honest madam’s issue? Why brand they us
With base? with baseness? bastardy? base, base? 12
Who in the lusty stealth of nature take
More composition and fierce quality
Than doth, within a dull, stale, tired bed,
Go to the creating a whole tribe of fops, 16
Got ’tween asleep and wake? Well then,
Legitimate Edgar, I must have your land:
Our father’s love is to the bastard Edmund
As to the legitimate. Fine word, ‘legitimate!’ 20
Well, my legitimate, if this letter speed,
And my invention thrive, Edmund the base
Shall top the legitimate:—I grow, I prosper;
Now, gods, stand up for bastards!
-Edmund, King Lear
It's pretty simple, actually. In Catholic European countries it is not socially acceptable to be both a working woman and a mother. The result is that professional women often end up not having children. Educated and professional women tend to have similar birth rates in Northern Europe as rest of the female population.
:-)
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