Skip to comments.Scientist: Comets Blasted Early Americans
Posted on 10/28/2005 6:33:11 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
COLUMBIA, S.C. - A supernova could be the "quick and dirty" explanation for what may have happened to an early North American culture, a nuclear scientist here said Thursday.
Richard Firestone said at the "Clovis in the Southeast" conference that he thinks "impact regions" on mammoth tusks found in Gainey, Mich., were caused by magnetic particles rich in elements like titanium and uranium. This composition, the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory scientist said, resembles rocks that were discovered on the moon and have also been found in lunar meteorites that fell to Earth about 10,000 years ago.
Firestone said that, based on his discovery of similar material at Clovis sites, he estimates that comets struck the solar system during the Clovis period, which was roughly 13,000 years ago. These comets would have hit the Earth at 1,000 kilometers an hour, he said, obliterating many life forms and causing mutations in others.
"I'm not going to tell you that there's Clovis people on the moon, or that they had a space program," Firestone said. But these particles look "very much like the material that comes from the moon, which is the only place we've found with this same high titanium concentration."
Amateur archaeologist Richard Callaway said he was surprised by Firestone's theory.
"I've always considered myself a pretty open-minded person," Callaway said, while browsing some of the artifacts on display at the conference. "And it's kind of shocking to hear that something from the solar system could have done something like this."
Callaway, an Episcopal priest from Atlanta, said that he and his wife have volunteered at the Topper site in Allendale County for the past two summers.
"To be a part of this ... and find something no human being has touched in 15,000 years that's something," Callaway said. "That's what I like about what we do. You don't find the next answer. You find the next question."
Earlier Thursday, University of South Carolina archaeologist Al Goodyear lectured on his discoveries at Topper, where he says he has found evidence that man existed in North America much earlier than previously thought. Goodyear showed slides of the many tools he has recovered from Topper, as well as a charcoal strip he discovered in soil two meters beneath a 16,000-year-old level of the site.
"Topper's like a box of chocolates," Goodyear said. "Every time we dig a hole, something new comes up."
As the final event of the four-day conference, partially sponsored by USC, Goodyear will lead attendees on a visit to Topper on Saturday.
Sorry I missed that requirement. I have read all of IV's books they are very interesting.
Thanks for the ping, Blam.
NR, I'm right behind Blam in enjoying a good old fashioned catastrophe.
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LOL.. I got ya covered re: catastrophes, etc. ;-)
of course, the most important related topic is...
Loss of Musk Ox Genetic Diversity at the Pleistocene-Holocene Transition
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Posted on 10/10/2005 5:13:17 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
impacts, recent and not so much...
A Celestial Collision
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Posted on 09/15/2004 9:04:28 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
Lake Michigan Impact in 1919:
Giordano Bruno, the June 1975 Meteoroid Storm, Encke, and Other Taurid Complex Objects
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Posted on 12/27/2004 2:37:46 PM PST by SunkenCiv
Small Asteroid Passes Between Satellites and Earth
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Posted on 12/23/2004 7:36:30 AM PST by SunkenCiv
Cosmic Hole-in-One Captured Over Antarctica
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Posted on 09/05/2005 9:36:19 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
Giant asteroid rocked Antarctica
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Posted on 10/17/2004 9:26:51 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
Grains Found in Ga. Traced to Asteroid
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The Hazard of Near-Earth Asteroid Impacts on Earth
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Posted on 12/02/2004 10:51:16 AM PST by SunkenCiv
LOL. I did a quick reading, which is usually sufficient, and then thought, "I have no idea what these people are talking about." Then I scrolled down and found your comment. Most reassuring, to know that when I am not grasping something it is still almost certainly somebody else's fault. :O)
Wait a minute... Firestone and Goodyear?
Thanks for posting it, and thanks again to Blam for the ping. It's unusually coherent and lucid, and while I'd disagree with Firestone's suggestion of the cause (supernova), as said before, I enjoy a good catastrophe.
earlier topics, same Richard Firestone, different sources:
Supernova Storm Wiped Out Mammoths?
Discovery News | 09/28/05 | Jennifer Viegas
Posted on 10/04/2005 11:47:27 PM PDT by planetesimal
Supernova Storm Wiped Out Mammoths?
Discovery News | Sept. 28, 2005 | Jennifer Viegas
Posted on 10/17/2005 8:57:32 AM PDT by Fzob
Supernova debris found on Earth
NEWS@NATURE.COM | 02 November 2004 | Mark Peplow
Posted on 11/24/2004 1:22:08 PM PST by Phsstpok
(I guess Peplow never heard of the Eltanin impact?)
I liked it because of it's fit with the end of the Ice Age.
Let me see...I have an article around her somewhere by Michelin, he says that...
I read "Ages In Chaos', "Worlds In Collision", and "Earth in Upheaval", (I believe). Were there any more?
I believe that much of what Velikovsky predicted has been proven, despite Carl Sagan's desperate and disingenuous attempt to silence him
One speaker named Firestone, and another speaker named Goodyear. Hmmmm......
I'm going to wait and see what Prof. Pirelli has to say. His theories are always highly provacative. Well worth hours of study to get every jot and tittle.
I'm convinced that they moved westward and became the ancestors of the Melungeons. (http://www.melungeon.org/?BISKIT=2772535491&CONTEXT=cat&cat=10005)
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