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France defends policies after riot (Finally admitting Muslims are rioting)
CNN.OOM International ^ | October 31, 2005 Posted: 1942 GMT (0342 HKT) | Reuters

Posted on 10/31/2005 1:33:39 PM PST by adamsjas

BOBIGNY, France (Reuters) -- French Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy defended his tough crime policies on Monday after a fourth night of riots in a Paris suburb in which tear gas was fired into a mosque.

Sarkozy, addressing police officers, vowed to find how tear gas had been fired into the Muslim place of worship, an incident which had helped fuel the disturbances.

Youths hurled rocks and set fire to cars in the northeastern Clichy-sous-Bois suburb of the French capital, where many immigrants and poor families live in high-rise housing estates notorious for youth violence.

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French television said six police officers were hurt and 11 people arrested in violence partly fueled by the incident at the mosque. Sarkozy promised an inquiry.

"I am, of course, available to the imam of the Clichy mosque to let him have all the details in order to understand how and why a tear gas bomb was sent into this mosque," he told about 170 police officers at the prefecture.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: dhimmi; dhimmitude; eurabia; europistan; france; frenchriots; islam; jihadinfrance; muslim; parisriots; riot; riots; rop; sarkozy; surrendermonkeys; swine; wot
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To: farlander

I saw "The Transporter". The French police didn't look that tough to me.


151 posted on 10/31/2005 10:30:18 PM PST by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: adamsjas
There are none so blind as those who will not see.

From the article:

"Laurent Fabius, a former Socialist prime minister and also a potential presidential candidate in 2007, mocked Sarkozy's frequent visits to areas such as Clichy.

"When he announces that he's going to visit such and such a commune or suburb every week, that's not how we resolve those problems," Fabius told Europe 1 radio.

"We need to act at the same time on prevention, repression, education, housing, jobs ... and not play the cowboy."

152 posted on 11/01/2005 12:05:14 AM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: Minnesocold

Kerry will suggest that the French should immediately draw up plans to withdraw from Paris and surrender it to the rioters....


153 posted on 11/01/2005 12:12:04 AM PST by Tempest (I'm a Christian. Before I am a conservative.)
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To: adamsjas
"But the idea that Islam is a Religion has got to go."

When the West succeeds in filleting the facade of religion from fascism then the real war on terror can finally begin.

If you ask any Muslim if Islam is a religion, they will tell you that it is much more. Islam is a "way of life".

154 posted on 11/01/2005 1:27:45 AM PST by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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To: HighFlier

"My brother told me that 1/2 of the births in France are Muslim."

Savage said that last night. He's very concerned about comparative birth rates and sometimes tries to shame young men and women into starting families.

I try think quality is a lot more important than quantity. But the flaw with that mindset is there's no such thing as a 'quality' vote. A bad vote counts as much as a good vote.


155 posted on 11/01/2005 3:09:23 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (The election phase is just running off the fumes of the primary. And the Primary starts Now.)
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To: farlander

"But don't mistake them for being weak on internal policing - they don't mess around."

You sound well-informed. But I can't help it. They're French, after all. And sure enough, they're trying to blame themselves for the riot.


156 posted on 11/01/2005 3:12:01 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (The election phase is just running off the fumes of the primary. And the Primary starts Now.)
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To: kromike
Surely the French can defend their own country, right?

We're not sure--it's never been tried before. ;)

157 posted on 11/01/2005 3:13:20 AM PST by Uncle Vlad
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To: nyconse

This might be a good time to vacation in France. Great deals, I'd imagine. Just be sure to look muslim.


158 posted on 11/01/2005 3:14:42 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (The election phase is just running off the fumes of the primary. And the Primary starts Now.)
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To: Decepticon

Considering black riots in the USA, I wonder how much Louis Fara-Con had to do with our most recent riot? He's Jewish, right? /sarc.


159 posted on 11/01/2005 3:16:55 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (The election phase is just running off the fumes of the primary. And the Primary starts Now.)
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To: adamsjas; All
 
 Fourth night of riots in Paris -- The Muslims will use any excuse, any non-reason at all, to go out and destroy with murderous intent. This article has a pic showing a car on fire.
Read these:  link: 144 comments |
 
 
 Several days of Muslim Riots in Denmark (Not only in France)
 
 Paris riots continue after two die --
 
 Fires Of 'Civil War' Erupts In Paris
 
 
 Paris rioting largely unreported
 Muslim youths have been rioting in a Paris suburb for three days—but good luck if you want details from mainstream media, who seem to be working overtime to obscure the facts in this disturbing story: Third night of trouble in Paris suburb following teenage deaths. (Hat tip: LGF readers.)   link: 219 comments
 Second Night Of Rioting In Paris
Saturday, October 29, 2005
 And last week they were rioting in Birmingham, UK as I just noted in the last thread. Melanie Phillips goes into the political reasons for the media's silence (reported already on LGF): 'minorities' must be victims and not agressors. But this is really approaching open revolt in Europe, and lunatic violence in India and Indonesia, and lunatic threats from pre-atomic Iran.
 We've had similar incidents here in Australia.
 riots in Sydney
 
  FEARS OVER MOSQUE FUNDING REVIVE FRENCH CHURCH-STATE DEBATE (How do you spell appeasement?) -- Seems to me the solution is to quit importing Moslems and to deport those who already live there. Then more mosques won't be needed.
 
  Jihad Comes to Small Town USA: Part 6

-Islam, a Religion of Peace®? Some links...--

160 posted on 11/01/2005 3:42:23 AM PST by backhoe (Sure, It's a Religion of Peace- and they'll kill you to prove it...)
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To: adamsjas; Decepticon
Interesting point, but I must say, there is a certain logic to inserting immigration into every post.

Kind of like Cato the Elder ending every single oratory in the Roman senate with "Carthage delendo est."

"and that is how the tax rates in the forth district should be emplaced and Carthage must Die."

161 posted on 11/01/2005 3:47:43 AM PST by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: adamsjas
The sobering reality:



162 posted on 11/01/2005 3:53:22 AM PST by ppaul
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To: kromike
Surely the French can defend their own country, right? (Snicker...snort...cough...)


163 posted on 11/01/2005 4:10:27 AM PST by killjoy (Real Men Love Bush)
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To: adamsjas
France, and Denmark today, Dearborn tomorrow?

Perhaps then someone will have to honesty and courage to admit that this IS a Crusade vs Jihad.
164 posted on 11/01/2005 5:11:06 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: 308MBR
REF: The USA had better wake up to our own Muslim problem. It's not just Ahmed at the 7-11, but also these homegrowns running with Farrakhan.

The time for the President to Lead is now, and there is no room for him to call Islamo-Fascists the "Religion of Peace". There is no room for him to ignore the Loose Borders of the USA. There is no longer time for ignoring the Illegal Immigrant problems which are turning into a National Scandal.

It is time for President Bush to Lead or get off of the Pot!

RamS
167 posted on 11/01/2005 5:58:47 AM PST by RamingtonStall (More Guns ==> Less Crime! Get your CHL today! http://www.ohioccw.org/)
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To: Decepticon

Ouch! That’s gotta hurt. Great Point. Once we get our own house in order, we can help others. Well, that’s how I handle my own home.


168 posted on 11/01/2005 6:04:50 AM PST by hildy123 (Bring back Patton)
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity

Hopefully the Pink Panther has some teeth!


169 posted on 11/01/2005 6:08:15 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: lonevoice

This is what happens to countries that allow Muslims to immigrate into their countries and then ignore the problems associated with them. They do NOT assimilate into other cultures and they are there to basically take over, period . . . make no mistake about it.


170 posted on 11/01/2005 6:29:23 AM PST by Pride in the USA
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To: ozoneliar

Believe someone posted yesterday that it will be in 2020.


171 posted on 11/01/2005 6:47:43 AM PST by sarasota
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To: Uncle Vlad; FrogBurger
Surely the French can defend their own country, right?

We're not sure--it's never been tried before. ;)


Except those 195,000 French casualties in the Battle of the Somme (just one of many battles in WWI). But somehow we always seem to forget that France lost a generation of men in the massacre that was WWI. That tends to leave quite an impression on the psyche of a nation.
172 posted on 11/01/2005 6:56:21 AM PST by conservatrice
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To: FreedomPoster

At last: a moment of pure insight.


173 posted on 11/01/2005 6:56:30 AM PST by sarasota
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To: ladtx
Where is Inspector Clouseau when you need him?

I think he's been very active in setting French policing policy from the looks of it.
174 posted on 11/01/2005 7:00:58 AM PST by farmer18th ("The fool says in his heart there is no God.")
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Same in England. My sister visited last summer and couldn't wait to get out of London and its overwhelming number of Muslims.


175 posted on 11/01/2005 7:09:56 AM PST by sarasota
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To: adamsjas

My brother-in-law is French and grew up there, he came here to teach at a University and became an American citizen after he married my sister, just so he could vote for Democrats. But even he said that the muslims in France are impossible to live with--no one wants to rent to them because they are filthy and trash the property, and refuse to pay the rent. Then they turn around and sue and claim they are being discriminated against. They are arrogant, violent, and abuse non-islamic women with impunity. This is what you get when you allow the islamic inmates to run the asylum; let us pray we will not reach this point in the US. A nation of dhimmis is a nation of slaves to islam.


176 posted on 11/01/2005 7:12:45 AM PST by ariamne (Proud shieldmaiden of the infidel--never forget, never forgive 9/11)
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To: sarasota

Maybe that's Bush's secret plan: have the Mexicans shoot it out with the Islamics? /sarc


177 posted on 11/01/2005 7:14:14 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March ("Every time the court veers left, the people are overwhelmingly opposed." [Laura Ingraham])
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To: backhoe

Thanks for the link. Some years ago I heard about all the money going into Muslim child care (tax-free) organizations where the money was going to support terrorism. Nobody believed me when I talked about it. I still get a "deaf ear" response to this day. Stop hitting the snooze button America.


178 posted on 11/01/2005 7:17:42 AM PST by sarasota
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To: ozoneliar
This might help.

It is projected by 2050 over half of all school age children in France will be Muslim.....The Decline and Fall of Europe
179 posted on 11/01/2005 7:30:03 AM PST by PigRigger (Send donations to http://www.AdoptAPlatoon.org)
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To: conservatrice

Actually, I think the Brits did they dying at the Somme - you're probably thinking of the half million or so that died at Verdun.


180 posted on 11/01/2005 7:41:45 AM PST by Little Ray (I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
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To: Tempest

Did someone say QUAGMIRE!!!!!!!


181 posted on 11/01/2005 7:48:57 AM PST by When do we get liberated? ((God save us from the whining, useless, irrelevent left...))
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To: sarasota
London was bad enough when I lived there in 1980--I can't begin to imagine how it is now.

My sister goes to France every year to visit her in-laws. She is not only American, but of Jewish descent. Every year I get more and more concerned for her safety. Being the liberal she is, she used to scoff at my fears. Not after her last visit, even she was shaken by the muslim's growing open hostility. Her french is flawless and she is often mistaken for Belgium, an assumption she used to correct. She no longer corrects it.

182 posted on 11/01/2005 8:21:28 AM PST by ariamne (Proud shieldmaiden of the infidel--never forget, never forgive 9/11)
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To: adamsjas

Hidden Unities: Alternative Strategic Divisions by Ralph Peters
http://www.smallwarsjournal.com/ref/culturalintelligence.htm

Scroll down
Note: it's a PDF file
An interesting take on europe.


183 posted on 11/01/2005 8:24:55 AM PST by Valin (Purgamentum init, exit purgamentum)
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To: farlander

Actually, all kidding aside, the French are not weak on anti-terrorism at all. They're just *huge* hypocrites.

Stop it! You're ruining a perfectly good bash the frogs thread for everyone.


184 posted on 11/01/2005 8:26:39 AM PST by Valin (Purgamentum init, exit purgamentum)
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Anyone have a map of the muslim enclaves around Paris?


185 posted on 11/01/2005 8:30:11 AM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: adamsjas

Seriously, this is why Princess Diana got smoked. You have to be proactive about this kind of thing.
If you've noticed, Prince Charles has been running around being Mr. muslim apologist recently. He's guilty- probably ordered the whack himself. Didn't a french doctor claim she was pregnant at the time of the "accident", and then, that story was changed- real quick?


186 posted on 11/01/2005 8:31:30 AM PST by emiller
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To: ariamne

I lived on the west coast of France in the 70's. It was idyllic in the countryside and even in Paris I felt well received (spoke French fluently). I remember worrying about the stigma of the "ugly American" but never felt its sting. I think I'll let those memories linger.


187 posted on 11/01/2005 8:35:32 AM PST by sarasota
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Funny stuff!


188 posted on 11/01/2005 8:50:26 AM PST by nyconse (a)
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To: nyconse

Back to square one:

"I am, of course, available to the imam of the Clichy mosque to let him have all the details in order to understand how and why a tear gas bomb was sent into this mosque," he told about 170 police officers at the prefecture.

That's the funniest part of this entire thread! All Clinton is breaking loose, and he's worried about one tear gas incident. How very French of them. =]


189 posted on 11/01/2005 9:01:13 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March ("Every time the court veers left, the people are overwhelmingly opposed." [Laura Ingraham])
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To: gdc61

"...did you ever do the Google search for "french military victories"? then hit the "I'm feeling lucky" button LOL..."

Well, there was Joan of Arc. That was eh... some time ago. It literally took a miracle for the French to win anything. =]


190 posted on 11/01/2005 9:04:42 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March ("Every time the court veers left, the people are overwhelmingly opposed." [Laura Ingraham])
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To: FreedomPoster; Decepticon; adamsjas

Couldnt agree with you more. I am trying to remember the last time I saw a bunch of Mexican Catholics setting up car bombs.

Not to mention the Mexican people I have met for the most part want to become a part of America, not have America become a part of them.


191 posted on 11/01/2005 9:37:33 AM PST by USAFJeeper
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To: USAFJeeper

Sarkozy is a good man, and he will lead the 78% of the French who are getting really zutted off with the Muslims. We should support them (vocally, not militarily) when they finally show the iron glove to these guys.


192 posted on 11/01/2005 9:54:09 AM PST by agere_contra
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To: adamsjas

I keep on seeing articles about the rioting and never once see the word muslim or islam mentioned.


193 posted on 11/01/2005 9:55:06 AM PST by KC_Conspirator (This space outsourced to India)
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To: agere_contra

Yes, I had heard about the intelligence sharing side and how well it was working out. Now if we can just get the Socialist politicians there to stop playing games.

But hey, I prefer German wine to French, and my Ustican uncle in law tells me that if its not Italian, its no good!


194 posted on 11/01/2005 10:05:36 AM PST by USAFJeeper
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To: adamsjas
fourth night of riots in a Paris suburb in which tear gas was fired into a mosque.

Next time use a TOW missile.

195 posted on 11/01/2005 10:29:35 AM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity ("Sharpei diem - Seize the wrinkled dog.")
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To: kromike

When are they going to surrender?


196 posted on 11/01/2005 11:17:55 AM PST by FreeAtlanta (never surrender, this is for the kids)
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To: KC_Conspirator
Fox news did their quick update about an hour ago and, although they mentioned the riots, the talking head said

1)that the riots started over two youths who were electrocuted,

2) the riots are in their 5th night, and 3)right at the end, mentioned that the three affected suburbs are home to immigrant populations, some of whom are muslim.

The two youths statement is at odds with the tickertape at the bottom of the screen that says the youths were fleeing from police.

197 posted on 11/01/2005 12:11:09 PM PST by Alice au Wonderland (A Liberal: Someone whose money or property isn't on the line yet. ---Old Doc Tsu)
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To: cchandler

They'll probably blame the riots on Israel.

^^^
And Bush.


198 posted on 11/01/2005 12:19:48 PM PST by Bigg Red (Do not trust Democrats with national security!)
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To: sarasota
Some years ago I heard about all the money going into Muslim child care (tax-free) organizations where the money was going to support terrorism. Nobody believed me when I talked about it. I still get a "deaf ear" response to this day. Stop hitting the snooze button America.

Good description- sleepwalking into the 21st century.

199 posted on 11/01/2005 1:06:38 PM PST by backhoe
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To: M. Espinola

Loves like LA after a baskeball game ;0)


200 posted on 11/01/2005 1:07:16 PM PST by Libertina
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