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Women's lib becomes a gender jihad for Muslims
Sydney Morning Herald ^ | November 1, 2005 | Giles Tremlett

Posted on 10/31/2005 10:36:28 PM PST by nickcarraway

Marching under the banner of a new jihad, Islamic feminists have launched what they hope will become a global movement to liberate Muslim women.

A meeting in Barcelona, which drew women from as far away as Malaysia, Mali, Egypt and Iran, set itself the task of squaring Islam with feminism.

That meant not just combating 14 centuries of sexism in the Muslim world, participants said, but also dealing with the animosity towards Islam of many Western or secular feminists. They insisted that many of the fundamental concepts of equality embraced by feminism could also be found in the Koran.

"Gender jihad is the struggle against male chauvinistic, homophobic or sexist readings of Islamic sacred texts," said Abdennur Prado, one of the meeting's Spanish organisers.

Sexist readings had been provided by Muslim scholars who, over the centuries, have been almost exclusively male. "Male chauvinism is the destruction of Islam as a well-balanced way of life," Mr Prado said.

A leading voice was Amina Wadud, an African-American theology professor who provoked outrage when she led mixed-sex Friday prayers in New York this year. She said her commitment to change was born from studying the Koran and the realisation that "horrific things were being done in the name of religion".

With obstacles such as the stoning to death of women, polygamy and the legal inferiority of women in some countries, progressives admitted there was a long climb ahead.

The greatest danger was the spread of radically conservative, Saudi-backed schools of Islam. "They don't want to go forward; they want to go back," said Dr Wadud, who also led mixed prayers at the Barcelona meeting.

Raheel Raza, a Canadian of Pakistani origin, said it was hard to break the mould. "I already have a fatwa against me. I don't want to be murdered on the street," she said.


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: feminazis; feminism; genderapartheid; islam; muslim; religionofwifebeater; rop; sharia

1 posted on 10/31/2005 10:36:29 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Ohhhhhhhh Kayyyyyyy.


2 posted on 10/31/2005 10:37:48 PM PST by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: nickcarraway

This is going to be interesting. I’m putting $5 on the Muslim guys and their 72 virgins.


3 posted on 10/31/2005 11:14:42 PM PST by Herakles
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To: nickcarraway

walp... if they want the trappings of islam but don't want the sexism (and other crap)... then they don't want real islam, do they?


4 posted on 10/31/2005 11:19:59 PM PST by King Prout (many accuse me of being overly literal... this would not be a problem if many were not under-precise)
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To: nickcarraway

Drop the stupid religion altogether. Why do they want to stay in one that relegates them to 3rd rate animals?


5 posted on 10/31/2005 11:21:09 PM PST by Lauretij2
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To: King Prout
With obstacles such as the stoning to death of women, polygamy and the legal inferiority of women in some countries, progressives admitted there was a long climb ahead.

Amazing, some still defend Islam (pig feet be upon it).

6 posted on 10/31/2005 11:23:19 PM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: nickcarraway

Islam and feminism. What more could you ask for?



7 posted on 10/31/2005 11:25:29 PM PST by BinaryBoy
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To: ncountylee

I used to believe the made-for-primetime "5 pillars" version was the long and short of Islam, and based on that belief I was quite tolerant of Islam.

A friend of mine, an Iranian and lapsed Muslim, literally smacked me on the head and told me to read the Koran and Hadith before thinking to defend Islam from criticism.

I did so.

I have found the public image of Islam to be greatly at odds with the reality of Islam's "holy" tenets.
I have found the terrorism and genocide practiced by Muslims worldwide since this cult's inception to square very well with those tenets.

I have concluded that Islam is -at its most innocent- an insane bloody-handed death cult cum mafia-style organized crime ring.
It may in fact be something worse.

and, no: not all Muslims are murderers in wait... those who are not are often enough nice folks who are deeply ignorant of the reality of the cult into which they fell (by birth or through misadventure).


8 posted on 10/31/2005 11:32:20 PM PST by King Prout (many accuse me of being overly literal... this would not be a problem if many were not under-precise)
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To: Herakles

I'll take that bet. $5 on the women scorned..


9 posted on 10/31/2005 11:40:41 PM PST by D-fendr
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To: nickcarraway
"Gender jihad is the struggle against male chauvinistic, homophobic or sexist readings of Islamic sacred texts," said Abdennur Prado, one of the meeting's Spanish organisers.

Sexist readings had been provided by Muslim scholars who, over the centuries, have been almost exclusively male. "Male chauvinism is the destruction of Islam as a well-balanced way of life," Mr Prado said.

So, a male has to organize the "feminist jihad" meeting for the rebellious women. Bwaaaahahahhahahahahha!

10 posted on 11/01/2005 12:05:13 AM PST by ApplegateRanch (Mohamophages of the world, unite! "Offended by offended (any other type?) Muslims since 9-11")
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To: ApplegateRanch

Not surprising to find the men of FD jeering at womens' attempt to free themselves from a repressive male-dominated society. Disappointing, but not surprising.


11 posted on 11/01/2005 1:39:02 AM PST by KateatRFM
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To: nickcarraway

Promising news. Hugely important development in the culture wars with Islam.


12 posted on 11/01/2005 1:41:56 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: BinaryBoy

Islamic feminists will not get any help from free world feminist. Any bets?


13 posted on 11/01/2005 2:08:38 AM PST by oyez
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To: nickcarraway

Ha! Now there's a disruption of Jihadism that I'd like to see: the true spirit behind all cloaks of feminism (for example, Valerie Solanis of S.C.U.M, Society for Cutting Up Men). Will we send N.O.W. members or religious pretenders from one of the larger organizations to start a high abortion rate through any/all feminist practices in Islamist countries? Maybe we should send some homo-activists along with the goddess worshippers, eh?


14 posted on 11/01/2005 2:33:31 AM PST by familyop ("Let us try" sounds better, don't you think? "Essayons" is so...Latin.)
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To: nickcarraway
This may be the start of the religious revolt of the Islamic reformation, triggered in part by the War on Terror.

If it is will freepers be as quick to criticize

15 posted on 11/01/2005 2:38:24 AM PST by tonycavanagh
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To: nickcarraway

I'll believe 'em when they start eating bacon for breakfast.


16 posted on 11/01/2005 2:46:14 AM PST by ppaul
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They insisted that many of the fundamental concepts of equality embraced by feminism could also be found in the Koran.

LOL

17 posted on 11/01/2005 2:49:58 AM PST by ppaul
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To: nickcarraway

This is huge. Islam (submission) is built on the back of crushed, submissive womanhood - remove their chains, and Islam will crumble. This is a feminist movement we at FR should support absolutely.

Also: "Gender Jihad" is a suprisingly cool title.


18 posted on 11/01/2005 4:40:07 AM PST by agere_contra
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To: familyop
Come on LAMESTREAM media, jump on this bandwagon. Come on FEMINAZI'S and HOMO-rights advocates, now is the chance to show dedication to your cause. Dust off your banners and re-charge your air horns. Stand up with your Islamic sisters and brothers. Take the fight for women and homo rights to the Islamofascists where it is really needed.

You're all so brave when you're in the land of the free. Take it where it's really needed.

Hello...hello...anyone there?
19 posted on 11/01/2005 4:57:11 AM PST by Awgie (truth is always stranger than fiction)
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To: nickcarraway

Well, good luck. People can swallow some amazing contradictions, it seems ... even "Islam" and "feminism."


20 posted on 11/01/2005 7:09:51 AM PST by Tax-chick (I'm not being paid enough to worry about all this stuff ... so I don't.)
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To: agere_contra
Islam (submission) is built on the back of crushed, submissive womanhood - remove their chains, and Islam will crumble.

"The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property - either as a child, a wife, or a concubine - must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men." -- Winston Churchill

21 posted on 11/01/2005 7:15:32 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves (Speaking several languages is an asset; keeping your mouth shut in one is priceless.)
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To: King Prout

I used to be the same way - read a little of the Koran and it seemed okay, nice ideals and all that. I figured the bloody history was in the past; after all, no one is perfect.

I don't look at Islam that way anymore. And since most Muslims are the descendents of those who were forcibly converted, and to be born Muslim means one must die Muslim, many who are not intrinsically bad are, basically, FUBARed.

I say they should look to their ancestors and convert back, en masse, to what their forebears were.


22 posted on 11/01/2005 7:42:23 AM PST by little jeremiah
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To: D-fendr
"I'll take that bet. $5 on the women scorned."

Your on! The women libers are not going to win this one.

You know, you are talking about guys who will murder an enemy of the faith for a promissory note of 72 virgins after death.

Although, I would probably lose the bet if it were a normal civilized society.
23 posted on 11/01/2005 9:59:09 AM PST by Herakles
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To: KateatRFM

So you don't find it ironic that, "womens' attempt to free themselves from a repressive male-dominated society," has to be fronted by, be organized by, and be spoken for, by a man of that very society?


24 posted on 11/01/2005 3:08:41 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Mohamophages of the world, unite! "Offended by offended (any other type?) Muslims since 9-11")
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To: Herakles
you are talking about guys who will murder an enemy of the faith for a promissory note…

Yes, but they still have to sleep sometime...

25 posted on 11/01/2005 7:59:53 PM PST by D-fendr
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To: ApplegateRanch

No -- because that's the same way women in the United States and Canada had to win the right to be considered even as human as Black men. (Black men are counted as 3/5 human being in the Constitution of the USA; women are not counted at all.)


26 posted on 11/02/2005 4:36:27 AM PST by KateatRFM
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To: nickcarraway

Burn your Burka! IslamoFeminist Unite!


27 posted on 11/02/2005 4:58:06 AM PST by wolfcreek
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