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Paris Riots spread throughout north-east (7th Night of Violence and Burning)
Radio New Zealand ^ | Nov 03, 2005 | staff

Posted on 11/03/2005 12:23:12 AM PST by Southack

Paris riots spread throughout north-east Posted at 8:20pm on 3 Nov 2005

Violence broke out in impoverished Paris suburbs for the seventh straight night, with rioters clashing with police and leaving a trail of torched cars and vandalised buildings.

Observers are pointing to France's failure to address deep problems of poverty and immigration, including tensions with its Muslim minority.

In Aulnay-sous-Bois in the worst-affected area of Seine-Saint-Denis, a police station was briefly besieged by gangs of youths while a gymnasium and a garage were set ablaze and a commercial centre vandalised.

A total of 40 vehicles, including two buses, were torched before midnight in nine towns in the Seine-Saint-Denis area, a high-unemployment largely-immigrant region. Police made 15 arrests.

Two primary schools were also damaged in the area northeast of the French capital.

The riots started last Thursday following the accidental electrocution of two youths, aged 15 and 17, who had scaled an electrical relay station's walls to escape a police identity check in Clichy-sous-Bois.

The firing of a police tear gas grenade against a mosque in Clichy-sous-Bois during clashes on Sunday also sparked rage in the suburb's large Muslim community.


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1 posted on 11/03/2005 12:23:13 AM PST by Southack
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To: Southack
Paris: La Ville Fumiere

2 posted on 11/03/2005 12:24:23 AM PST by Petronski (Cyborg is the greatest blessing I have ever known.)
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To: All; wretchard; Howlin; Travis McGee; blam; Squantos; Bommer; Lazamataz; SJackson; yonif; ...

We've seen more pictures of Joe Wilson's wife than of the widening riots in Paris and Denmark in the U.S. news...

3 posted on 11/03/2005 12:25:06 AM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: All

"A total of 40 vehicles, including two buses, were torched before midnight in nine towns in the Seine-Saint-Denis area, a high-unemployment largely-immigrant region. Police made 15 arrests."


4 posted on 11/03/2005 12:26:25 AM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack
France VS Muslims.

I am almost indifferent.... but I suppose the French could use the exercize

5 posted on 11/03/2005 12:27:24 AM PST by GeronL (Leftism is the INSANE Cult of the Artificial)
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To: Petronski

wow. now these were Baptists or Amish this time?


6 posted on 11/03/2005 12:27:54 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 1 John 4:15, John 11:25, John 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13)
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To: Southack
AH Paris... We Have a problem....

I read on Foxnews that Chriac thinks they can resolve this issue with discussion and understanding... a week into this rioting and it spreading... I think the time for discussion and understanding is past...

This is the price of appeasement, and what would occur if we were to appease all the extremists here.. appeasement did not work for France in the 1940's and it is not going to work now...

What is the EU and the rest of Europe going to do when this spreads outside of Paris..France... Denmark... They are going to have real issues there really quick...

I think Europe needs to review its history prior to WW2.. things are beginning to look familiar
7 posted on 11/03/2005 12:31:44 AM PST by Americanwolf (Support the Minutemen Civil Defense Corp...Doing the Job our government won't !)
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To: GeronL
Yeah waving the white flag vigorously builds upper arm strength .. :)
8 posted on 11/03/2005 12:32:57 AM PST by Americanwolf (Support the Minutemen Civil Defense Corp...Doing the Job our government won't !)
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To: GeronL

Actually French Intelligence tried to warn us ahead of 9/11. Led us to the 20th hijacker who never made it to a plane, getting nabbed. But since there was no evidence of a wider conspiracy the judge did not allow his hard drive to be searched and he had made contact with other 9/11 hijackers. I think that's how it happened.


9 posted on 11/03/2005 12:34:03 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 1 John 4:15, John 11:25, John 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13)
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To: Americanwolf
I read on Foxnews that Chriac thinks they can resolve this issue with discussion and understanding

Hello, real world breaking down the door.

10 posted on 11/03/2005 12:34:31 AM PST by GeronL (Leftism is the INSANE Cult of the Artificial)
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To: F15Eagle

oh how I do loathe leftist judges


11 posted on 11/03/2005 12:35:18 AM PST by GeronL (Leftism is the INSANE Cult of the Artificial)
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To: GeronL

LOL! :)


12 posted on 11/03/2005 12:35:40 AM PST by Americanwolf (Support the Minutemen Civil Defense Corp...Doing the Job our government won't !)
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To: Americanwolf
This is the price of appeasement, and what would occur if we were to appease all the extremists here.. appeasement did not work for France in the 1940's and it is not going to work now...

I'd suggest you get used to it, as the US has the same policy.

13 posted on 11/03/2005 12:37:11 AM PST by Concentrate (Best wishes to all)
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To: Southack
Observers are pointing to France's failure to address deep problems of poverty and immigration, including tensions with its Muslim minority.

This observer is pointing to the muslim minority's refusal to even try to assimilate, which leads to perpetual poverty.

Send them back to whatever hell-hole they came from and let them riot over there.

14 posted on 11/03/2005 12:38:48 AM PST by CurlyDave
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To: Southack
Bush did it, global warming, Chaney lied and Mohammad died, time to invoke rule 21.
15 posted on 11/03/2005 12:38:49 AM PST by Liberal Bob (http://democrap.com)
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To: Concentrate

Could you explain how our policy is similar to what is occuring in France?


16 posted on 11/03/2005 12:39:03 AM PST by Americanwolf (Support the Minutemen Civil Defense Corp...Doing the Job our government won't !)
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To: GeronL

I think he was just trying to follow the law. Didn't expect that an insane group of hijackers would come over to slit throats, crash airplanes and try to start Armageddon. I can see how it happens.

They had nabbed him after the flying lessons were funky (i.e. he didn't want to take off or land and claimed to be from France but didn't speak French when the instructor spoke French to him). It perhaps was another that the French were on, but because of the laws of the CIA / FBI having to operate independently (for example a U.S. intelligence plane cannot collect intel on American citizens) there were legal issues. Those things are being changed but it's funny territory with citizens. The hard part is the illegals here among us.

*sighs*


17 posted on 11/03/2005 12:39:22 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 1 John 4:15, John 11:25, John 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13)
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To: F15Eagle

they nabbed a terror suspect. searching his computer HD should be routine


18 posted on 11/03/2005 12:40:55 AM PST by GeronL (Leftism is the INSANE Cult of the Artificial)
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To: F15Eagle

Won't stop until the body count starts to hurt the IslamoPukes.


19 posted on 11/03/2005 12:42:09 AM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: Southack

The French capacity for capitulation is known only by John Kerry.


20 posted on 11/03/2005 12:43:30 AM PST by ChadGore (VISUALIZE 62,041,268 Bush fans.)
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To: Southack; Travis McGee; blam; Squantos; Bommer; Lazamataz; SJackson; yonif
We've seen more pictures of Joe Wilson's wife than of the widening riots in Paris and Denmark in the U.S. news...

You mean Val, the THIRD wife???

The French Connection, Jaqueline, the SECOND wife is the real story behind Joey's lying intrigue.

21 posted on 11/03/2005 12:46:30 AM PST by beyond the sea (Gloria Borger is Andrea Mitchell on Peyote)
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To: Kristopher

"France is being taken over as I write this.... Thousands of web pages from Islamists in FRANCE are demanding that Muslims riot all over the place starting this Friday.

The Chief of Police in PARIS is asking for a curfew at night time in all the cities where rioting is taking place.
He even said France was experiencing a CIVIL WAR...his words not mine. "




11 posted on 11/03/2005 2:44:38 AM CST by Kristopher


22 posted on 11/03/2005 12:46:41 AM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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I actually like France's methods of attaining terrorists more than our own. They can hold them as long as they want if they're suspected terrorists. They expedite them through the system and remove legal hurdles to send them packing.

Problem is, France has become too depedent on the vermin.

Aren't you all glad we have Mexico to the south and not Algeria? At least Mexicans are for the most part peaceful, Catholic, and usually willing to work (even if many do free-load).

Allowing Balkanization=bad. Always. Melting pots are good, tossed salads are not.


23 posted on 11/03/2005 12:47:29 AM PST by CheyennePress
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To: GeronL

True, but unfortunately he didn't have a terror past, or it certainly wasn't known to him. He was an unknown, IIRC. OTOH, when Sami Al-Arian was shown supporting the causes of terror abroad, they (after 9/11) looked as his "fund-raising" and found funny links on the money which is why he's on trial in Florida now. I.e. the money went directly to families of suicide bombers (4 specific checks from an account he controlled). So much of this stuff is after the fact. I think ZM was arrested only days before 9/11 so the likelihood that they would have made the connections that fast is slim.

HOWEVER, had every American seen "Jihad in America" I think there's a possibility that some of it might have been stopped. I just stand amazed 4 years after 9/11 that more of the country hasn't woken up. However, I am pleasantly surprised that many I meet are watching their towns closely for this type of activity.


24 posted on 11/03/2005 12:48:36 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 1 John 4:15, John 11:25, John 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13)
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To: Americanwolf; Concentrate
Only a performer from Cirque de Soleil could do enough twisting to make that comparison.

Pardon my french. I hope I spelled it wrong.

25 posted on 11/03/2005 12:52:32 AM PST by BykrBayb (Impeach Judge Greer - In memory of Terri <strike>Schiavo</strike> Schindler - www.terrisfight.org)
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To: ncountylee

They are forever labeling themselves as terrorists and thugs in many countries. That's what's amazing. The British were tolerant. They attacked. The French were tolerant. They attacked. The Americans were tolerant. They attacked.

After watching all the stuff that has gone on for the past 5 years all over the world, I can't imagine why any decent person would want to remain in that. In free countries anyways. Small wonder Saudi Arabia makes it the death penalty for a muslim to convert to any other belief. That ought to be a lesson right there.


26 posted on 11/03/2005 12:52:50 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 1 John 4:15, John 11:25, John 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13)
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To: Southack

This is an intifada in Paris.


27 posted on 11/03/2005 12:53:59 AM PST by advance_copy (Stand for life, or nothing at all)
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To: Southack

Seventh straight day of violence? Sounds to me as if these people were prepared. There seems to be some organization behind the violence.


28 posted on 11/03/2005 12:59:10 AM PST by DeuceTraveler (Freedom is a never ending struggle)
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To: Southack

Don't they have some levees they can dynamite?


29 posted on 11/03/2005 1:00:12 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: BykrBayb

might be Cirque du Soleil but you were pretty close. French III (and II) were some bad days in college, LOL. Here's some of what little I remember, LOL. And I'm probably spelling wrong.

pomme de terre - pommes = apples - pomme de terre - apples of the Earth = potatoes

I can now take apart the sentence from the Le Chic song from the '70's. We all knew what it meant; now I know how to take the sentence apart.

Voulez-voux - inversion of "Vous voulez" - i.e. "you would" so inversion makes it a question "Would you?"

couchez - reflexive verb of "se couchez" - to lie oneself down

avec moi - with me

ce soir - this evening

To be a gentlemen I won't put the whole sentence together in the post, LOL. And there would be a question mark at the end of course.

"Hier soir, j'ai manger ma voiture pour ma petite dejeuner"

Last night I ate my car for breakfast. LOL (and I'm sure I spelled it wrong, too).


30 posted on 11/03/2005 1:01:35 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 1 John 4:15, John 11:25, John 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13)
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To: GeronL
Who needs to use bombs, or off-course planes, when a little "civil disobedience" will do the trick. Something tells me not even a white flag will be respected by these errant "French immigrants".
31 posted on 11/03/2005 1:03:09 AM PST by singfreedom ("Victory at all costs,.......for without victory there is no survival."--Churchill--that's "Winston")
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To: F15Eagle
To be a gentlemen I won't put the whole sentence together in the post, LOL.
And there would be a question mark at the end of course.

A very big question mark.

Last night I ate my car for breakfast.

Now there's a handy phrase!

32 posted on 11/03/2005 1:05:24 AM PST by BykrBayb (Impeach Judge Greer - In memory of Terri <strike>Schiavo</strike> Schindler - www.terrisfight.org)
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To: ChadGore

ROTFL!!!


33 posted on 11/03/2005 1:05:26 AM PST by singfreedom ("Victory at all costs,.......for without victory there is no survival."--Churchill--that's "Winston")
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To: BykrBayb

actually you spelled it correct. and i agree that is why I asked him to explain...I cannot see how there could be anything similar...

but some people do have brain farts and feel the need to type them out..


34 posted on 11/03/2005 1:05:57 AM PST by Americanwolf (Support the Minutemen Civil Defense Corp...Doing the Job our government won't !)
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To: Americanwolf

If you get a reply, ping me to it. It's cheaper than Cirque de Soleil, and I won't have to break my boycott.


35 posted on 11/03/2005 1:07:25 AM PST by BykrBayb (Impeach Judge Greer - In memory of Terri <strike>Schiavo</strike> Schindler - www.terrisfight.org)
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To: advance_copy

I think you are absolutely correct.


36 posted on 11/03/2005 1:09:58 AM PST by singfreedom ("Victory at all costs,.......for without victory there is no survival."--Churchill--that's "Winston")
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To: BykrBayb

My favorite came in a little French phrase book put together for laughs.

Vous etes un ange descendu sur terre.

You are an angel descended down to Earth.

However in situations like this I would probably say:

"Zee mooselimb is burning zee car with zee molotov cocktail! Mon Dieu!"

8)


37 posted on 11/03/2005 1:11:14 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 1 John 4:15, John 11:25, John 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13)
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To: BykrBayb

will do! :)


38 posted on 11/03/2005 1:11:48 AM PST by Americanwolf (Support the Minutemen Civil Defense Corp...Doing the Job our government won't !)
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To: BykrBayb

http://www.lasvegas-nv.com/cirque-du-soleil.htm


39 posted on 11/03/2005 1:13:18 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 1 John 4:15, John 11:25, John 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13)
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To: Southack
We've seen more pictures of Joe Wilson's wife than of the widening riots in Paris and Denmark in the U.S. news...

If it weren't for Free Republic, I wouldn't know about the Paris story at all.

40 posted on 11/03/2005 1:14:44 AM PST by Uncle Vlad
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To: Uncle Vlad

I saw it on CBS Up to the Minute 30 minute repeating news overnight last night (BION). But yeah, this thing is starting to look like an intifada. Certainly bears watching.


41 posted on 11/03/2005 1:16:55 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 1 John 4:15, John 11:25, John 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13)
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To: GeronL

And this is the result of two "Mooslim yutes" (Vinny)electrocuting themselves. Imagine if the cops actually shot them.


42 posted on 11/03/2005 1:17:09 AM PST by MPJackal ("If you are not with us, you are against us.")
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To: Southack
"The riots started last Thursday following the accidental electrocution of two youths, aged 15 and 17, who had scaled an electrical relay station's walls to escape a police identity check in Clichy-sous-Bois."

Sounds like it worked out perfectly.

43 posted on 11/03/2005 1:18:20 AM PST by Senator Goldwater
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To: Americanwolf
What is the EU and the rest of Europe going to do when this spreads outside of Paris..France... Denmark.

Well, they could all go to the beaches of Dunkirk for evacuation to......Uh Oh. UK has the same problem. They're f**ked!

44 posted on 11/03/2005 1:19:40 AM PST by jslade
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To: DeuceTraveler

Prepared, organized, no doubt. Those that participate in the rioting, are muslim immigrants that just will not conform to French (infidel) laws and regulations, and, being primitive and uncultivated, only respect what they fear.

Only two remedies: immediate mass repatriations, or a .30 calibre machine gun on every police vehicle.


45 posted on 11/03/2005 1:21:59 AM PST by Bazooka (Just say what you think. They hate our guts anyway.)
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To: Americanwolf

Substitute "Mexicans" for "Muslims".


46 posted on 11/03/2005 1:23:06 AM PST by monocle
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To: Americanwolf

Why, our obvious appeasement to gardeners and nannies of course...


47 posted on 11/03/2005 1:35:37 AM PST by Bob J (RIGHTALK.com...a conservative alternative to NPR!)
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To: Southack
OK, and how many of us here more or less predicted that France/Europe would be facing something like this crap? Mooslems are NOT peace activists. They are killers, looters and embrace a child molester as their Patron saint. France welcomes them and this is what they do?
Serves France right. They are getting what they deserve.
48 posted on 11/03/2005 1:40:27 AM PST by Danae (Most Liberals don't drink the Kool-aide, they are licking the powder right out of the packet.)
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To: F15Eagle
claimed to be from France but didn't speak French when the instructor spoke French to him

LOL! Got a sudden flashback from "The Coneheads."

49 posted on 11/03/2005 1:45:42 AM PST by Siouxz ( Freepers are the best!!!)
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To: All

Celebrate Diversity...


50 posted on 11/03/2005 1:46:50 AM PST by Triggerhippie (Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.)
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