Lawmaker Wants Fence On 2,000-Mile U.S.-Mexico Border

theindychannel ^ | POSTED: 6:34 am EST November 3, 2005

[peyton randolph]

It would if it were electrified and there were gun emplacemnets every so often, perhaps randomly placed and moved daily.

What about those microwave weapons they've been testing for crowd dispersal? http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6182817

[RKV]

Bounty on those already in the country - another winner! Ya' have to be very careful about this one though. The point is to catch. detain and remove them, not to turn the country into Dodge City. The pro-illegal immigration faction would beat us over the head with that one.

[captainblacksmith]

Why are Hispanic Advocacy Groups foaming-at-the-mouth opposed to this, at the same time claiming it will have NO EFFECT? We spend $200 million on an Alaska bridge to nowhere, $300 billion to rebuild the City Under the Sea, and $7 billion to prepare for Bird Flu, which won't happen. The price of this fence is reasonable. Why does Bush keep peddling this "temporary work program" which will only ENCOURAGE more people to sneak in? Bush is incompetent. I'm convinced a Democrat would do better at controlling immigration. And I'm pretty conservative.

The sad fact is many business owners benefit from the cheap labor at everyone else's expense, and they have influence.

[Preachin']

"I would gladly pay a fence tax or levy."

I think that there should be two fences.

Each fence should be at least 40 foot high to lower the use of ladders.

The fences should be made of a very strong material that cannot easily be cut.

I suggest concrete blocks about 6 feet thick, with rebar uses to reinforce them.

The wall should be at least 20 feet under ground to inhibit tunnels.

Strategically placed motion detectors will let us know if there is any activity outside the fence on the Mexican side.

The fences should be about 30 feet away from each other to make it extremely difficult to build a bridge walkway above them.

There should be attack dogs placed between the fences.

Since the INS can't do there job, they need to be reclassified as park rangers, with their primary job being the care taking of the dogs.

[Preachin']

"The sad fact is many business owners benefit from the cheap labor at everyone else's expense, and they have influence."

Actually, most of the rest of us do, too.

Hispanics do most of the labor for new construction here in Atlanta, but homeowners aren't shy about using them to have their house re-painted or re-roofed, either.

I'm all for building the fence, but it's not just the businnes owners fault.

[TomasUSMC]

IF illegals know there is no employer here to give them work and that when caught here they are deported that week then the flow will stop

Lets not forget the social services that are offered to illegals up to and including reduced tuition at our colleges and mortgages.

[RedEyeJack]

In open arid terrain like the southwest and like we saw in Kuwait, the U.S. Military built 20 ft berms just by scraping up the dirt/sand in the area. If we started back 1/2 mile from the border I am sure we could create such a barrier at minimal expense. For the labor that could not be done with dozers and loaders we could establish temporary camps to house healthy illegal alien male that we apprehended. Put them to "work" for the cost of feeding them and when they were done take them back to the border and send them home...

Time to get serious.

[AmericanChef]

Heh-heh, it would be delightfully ironic if illegals ended up building it.

[diverteach]

they forgot the need for landmines to supplement the fence.

[southernnorthcarolina]

[captainblacksmith]

The claim that a fence could not help is ridiculous. The project is not just a fence that is built then abandoned to watch what happens. The fence is a tool to affect the busy migration corridors, perhaps focusing traffic into tighter zones easier to manage by the Border Patrol.

The biggest obsticle to this project is how insulting it is to Mexicans. This needs to be politically-correctified by emphasizing how it will raise the wages of Mexicans already in the US, by calling it one of these:
Fence of Empowerment
Enfranchisement Monument
Impenetrable Wall of Enfranchisement
Freedom Wall
US/Mexico Adhesive Zone

[jslade]

May I suggest......

[hershey]

We need to gain control of our borders, that's a given. But what do we do when the rest of the hemisphere falls apart because they can't govern themselves without widespread drugs/graft/corruption, and thievery? Millions of Mexicans, mainly the poor, have already arrived, (a quarter of the population, in fact), and now a poll taken in Mexico reveals that half of those remaining in Mexico would head north in a wink. This is the middle class. People all over this hemisphere, outside the US and Canada, are sick and tired of living conditions. Two thousand Costa Ricans announced this a few years back...they were also sick of hurricanes. They were planning to head north, walking, and once they got here, they weren't leaving. Guess what. They arrived and they won't leave.

So what does the US do when envy, anti-Americanism takes home in a big way...we have our big strong wall protecting prosperity, liberty, all the freedoms guaranteed in the Constitution, and someone, say, Chavez, gets nukes and decides to blow up DC or L.A., sending it in through a container or whatever? We will continue to be the dartboard for every other country in trouble economically and socially. I just mention this as well, common sense. What do we do? Bush and the CFR (One Happy Hemisphere), proposed globalization to prevent all this, and so far it's failed. Plus we have Islamofascism to deal with. A wall won't solve everything, but we need to control our borders and should start from that premise no matter what.

[hershey]

I think I meant 'envy, anti-Americanism takes hold in a big way'.

[jpsb]

"Good fences make good neigbors", a chain link fence yes, a tall concrete wall no.

[LachlanMinnesota]

How about the enviro-friendly "Trash catcher" as I know its windy down there...

[zeugma]

Sounds like a great idea, as long as the fence is concrete, 20 feet high above ground and 15 feet below ground, topped with razor wire, 10 feet wide so you can walk along the top, and with guard towers every few hundred yards.

One of the proposals I've seen that I like is that they would use the freeway sound barrier walls. I think they are typically 20ft high concrete barriers. I like your reccomendation of making them at least 15 ft below ground. A free-fire zone on our side of the fence would probably be useful too.

None of this, of course, is going to happen because Bush doesn't want to do anything about illegal immigration. He just doesn't give a damn.

[Rennes Templar]

That should do it!

[Mikey]

Poll: Most Americans favor border fence