Skip to comments.WAL-MART BANS CHRISTMAS: BOYCOTT LAUNCHED
Posted on 11/09/2005 11:50:22 AM PST by big'ol_freeper
WAL-MART BANS CHRISTMAS:
A woman who recently complained to Wal-Mart that the store was replacing Merry Christmas with Happy Holidays received an e-mail response from Customer Service. It appears below in its exact form:
Walmart is a world wide organization and must remain conscious of this. The majority of the world still has different practices other than christmas which is an ancient tradition that has its roots in Siberian shamanism. The colors associated with christmas red and white are actually a representation of of the aminita mascera mushroom. Santa is also borrowed from the Caucuses, mistletoe from the Celts, yule log from the Goths, the time from the Visigoth and the tree from the worship of Baal. It is a wide wide world.
To which Catholic League president Bill Donohue says: This statement was signed by someone called Kirby. When I read it, I thought he might be drunk. But I was wrong. We sent Kirbys response to Wal-Marts headquarters only to find that Dan Fogleman, Senior Manager, Public Relations, agrees. After acknowledging that he read Kirbys response, Fogleman said, in part, the following:
As a retailer, we recognize some of our customers may be shopping for Chanukah or Kwanza gifts during this time of year and we certainly want these customers in our stores and to feel welcome, just as we do those buying for Christmas. As an employer, we recognize the significance of the Christmas holiday among our family of associates and close our stores in observance, the only day during the year that we are closed.
Bill Donohue says: Its nice to know that Wal-Mart is closed on a federal holiday. Now here is why I am asking the leaders of 126 religious organizations that span seven religious communities to boycott Wal-Mart. Go to its website and search for Hanukkah and up come 200 items. Click on Kwanzaa and up come 77. Click on Christmas, and heres what you get: Weve brought you to our Holiday page based on your search. In other words, Wal-Mart is practicing discrimination.
I remembered that from the old Bob Newhart Show. The first one, I think, where he played a shrink.
Your link sent me to a page selling Siberian shamanism trees! ;)
Not when I have many Jews in my family, work with Hindus and am friends with many Buddhists, all of which celebrate Christmas.. at that, the only people I know who don't celebrate Christmas are a Christian family who believes it is rooted with anti-Christian messages..
Ill shop Walmart too, so Ill see you there : )
You really think a Walmart PR person was knowledgeable enough about religious history to write this? Even if he were, would he respond as such? This is typical BS coming from the anti Walmart folks....
Well then you admit that when they look for Christmas they actually mean Christmas.
I punched up chrismas, and there is a tree with the word holday above it but if you look at the column next to it on the left you see a quick link box to the mentioned items.
Holiday Gift Baskets
I support Wal-Mart in that regard. The Chinese people aren't stupid. They know what they're making...they're gonna want it...
I LOVE THE SPREAD OF CAPITALISM!!!
No, spend it at the Radio Shack at White Oak Shopping Center in Silver Spring, MD and buy a cell phone from ME. I can't speak for all of Radio Shack, but I celebrate Christmas. Come in after 6 pm since I will be working at the FDA during the day.
And RS doesn't call it Black Friday. We call it Hot Friday.
By the way, Radio Shack is giving all of its employees off Thanksgiving as well as Christmas.
Oh, and when you go to the Catholic League site they have the email address of the Wal Mart manager who did NOT apologize for the smears by Kirby.
You are lucky the needle on my old fashioned "Bull $hit" detector broke off on this one.
I thought that was Usa, Japan.
You really think a Walmart PR person was knowledgeable enough about religious history to write this? Even if he were, would he respond as such? This is such a joke!
Possibly true which is why I will buy religious Christmas cards from China.
It takes you to the holiday page because there are over 7,000 items with the word "Christmas" in them. You have the option of continuing to the search results if you'd like.
This is just more hysterical garbage from the church.
I'm sorry, but it just makes sense for a company to be sensitive to all it's customers.
Meanwhile, Donahue is insensitive to those of us who believe that Christmas and "Shopping" don't go together in the religious sense. I'm sick of the commercialization of christmas, and think it is a great thing that "christmas sales" are changed to "holiday sales".
What the heck does a new blender have to do with Christmas?
I guess you didn't read the whole article Donohue wrote. He said that on the Walmart site if you click on Kwanza you get lots of items, same is true clicking on Hanukkah. But, when you click on "Christmas" up comes the advice "We brought you our "holiday page", why not "Christmas page." Sounds discriminatory to me. Donohue is a smart cookie. He would't get his panties in a bunch over nothing. Read John Gibson's new book on why we don't have Christmas any more. Christmas isn't PC.
Trees have been used for a jillion things. The Christmas tree in its modern incarnation was thought up by Martin Luther who would have had a kitten if you had accused him of Baal worship.
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Dude,Target is MILF-city.
Like most stores they say its OK to make money on Christmas shopping, we just don't want to recognize it.
Then, I did a search for Satanism:
I worked in the christmas tree lot at Home Depot a few years ago for extra cash. We were told to say "Happy Holidays" instead of "Merry Christmas" to the people buying CHRISTMAS TREES so we wouldn't offend anyone.
It's the act of "GIVING" that is Christmas. A blender could be Christmas to someone who didn't have a blender.
Yeah, and not only that but please show me a major retailer that is able to sell OTHER than Chinese made products, sheesh!
THen I did a search for Wiccan:
Where the Satanism search had anti-satanist items, the Wiccan search turned up spell books, et al.
Sam would never have allowed this stuff...I think.
I'm sorry but that email doesn't sound even remotely real. I think somebody's trying to start trouble for Wal Mart and/or Bill Donohue.
Bill Donohue says:
Contact Fogleman at
7970 items found for Christmas
Now, I'm not sure why, if I specifically type in "christmas", that they would assume I would be offended by a search for "christmas" and instead want "holiday".
But I think it's because a lot of their "christmas" ITEMS which they get from manufacturers are named "Holiday" instead of "Christmas", and they just want to make sure we see all the stuff we want to see (like their "Holiday Season Lights").
No clue what that means.
My God, if you walk into Wal-Mart you are bombarded with Christmas! The idea of Wal-Mart "banning" Christmas based on someone not being able to read their website search result is ridiculous.
This has to be a hoax.
LOLOLOL!!!! Let's add a few more metaphors into the mix....I just had a hoot with the imagery!!!
And the "Holiday Tree" outside the U.S. Capitol Building doesn't bother you?
Before the stores open their doors in the morning, management has to slink away to locked offices so the public can't see their horns and cloven hooves!
You can just feel the eeeeeevil flowing from those bastions of capitalist greed.
Went to the link: 12 toys of christmas.
Is this what the Catholic League is complaining about, that Walmart isn't being open and honest enough about selling us toys for 12 days of christmas?
Christmas is a deeply significant religious holiday, not an excuse for excessive consumption. Why the Catholic league is complaining about Walmart trying to help us out in that regard is beyond me.
Except for the minor fact that searching for Christmas brings up a Christmas tree (labeled as such) with a link to all things Christmas.
Your comment that they "refuse to acknowledge Christmas" is what, then? Did you "mis-speak"?
And so? Just about any common item has been worshiped for myriad purposes. It has happened whether or not the Bible has documented it or not. You'd have to be satisfied to have an empty house.
I really agree with them. Jewish families celebrate Hannakuh, not Christmas. I think it's stupid to act like Christmas is a dirty word, but in retail you do have to consider all your customers. Capitalism and all.
"Everything? I don't think so. Some stuff, but you'll find Chinese-made goods in every store in this country. I think you're incorrect, there, Jim." Wal-Mart spent $18 billion on goods from Chinese suppliers in 2004. They spent $150 billion on goods from US suppliers. The poster hasn't a clue about what it speaks.
I just e-mailed the Catholic League to tell them that if they would bother to actually step foot in a Wal-Mart & look for themselves they'd realize how stupid their press release is.
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