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WAL-MART BANS CHRISTMAS: BOYCOTT LAUNCHED
Catholic League ^ | 9 November 2005 | William Donohue

Posted on 11/09/2005 11:50:22 AM PST by big'ol_freeper

WAL-MART BANS CHRISTMAS:

BOYCOTT LAUNCHED

A woman who recently complained to Wal-Mart that the store was replacing “Merry Christmas” with “Happy Holidays” received an e-mail response from Customer Service. It appears below in its exact form:

“Walmart is a world wide organization and must remain conscious of this. The majority of the world still has different practices other than ‘christmas’ which is an ancient tradition that has its roots in Siberian shamanism. The colors associated with ‘christmas’ red and white are actually a representation of of the aminita mascera mushroom. Santa is also borrowed from the Caucuses, mistletoe from the Celts, yule log from the Goths, the time from the Visigoth and the tree from the worship of Baal. It is a wide wide world.”

To which Catholic League president Bill Donohue says: “This statement was signed by someone called Kirby. When I read it, I thought he might be drunk. But I was wrong. We sent Kirby’s response to Wal-Mart’s headquarters only to find that Dan Fogleman, Senior Manager, Public Relations, agrees. After acknowledging that he read Kirby’s response, Fogleman said, in part, the following”:

“As a retailer, we recognize some of our customers may be shopping for Chanukah or Kwanza gifts during this time of year and we certainly want these customers in our stores and to feel welcome, just as we do those buying for Christmas. As an employer, we recognize the significance of the Christmas holiday among our family of associates…and close our stores in observance, the only day during the year that we are closed.”

Bill Donohue says: “It’s nice to know that Wal-Mart is closed on a federal holiday. Now here is why I am asking the leaders of 126 religious organizations that span seven religious communities to boycott Wal-Mart. Go to its website and search for Hanukkah and up come 200 items. Click on Kwanzaa and up come 77. Click on Christmas, and here’s what you get: ‘We’ve brought you to our ‘Holiday’ page based on your search.’ In other words, Wal-Mart is practicing discrimination.”


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1 posted on 11/09/2005 11:50:22 AM PST by big'ol_freeper
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To: big'ol_freeper

Beware of boycott emails. Remember the whole Target thing?


2 posted on 11/09/2005 11:51:02 AM PST by Lunatic Fringe (North Texas Solutions http://ntxsolutions.com)
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To: big'ol_freeper

Some how I have serious doubts that WalMart sent an official corporate e-mail that included the phrase "Siberian shamanism".


3 posted on 11/09/2005 11:51:57 AM PST by discostu (When someone tries to kill you, you try to kill them right back)
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To: big'ol_freeper

Does not pass the sniff test.


4 posted on 11/09/2005 11:52:01 AM PST by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Graybeard58

Not even close. William Donohue may be caught with his panties down on this one.


5 posted on 11/09/2005 11:53:06 AM PST by HitmanLV (Listen to my demos for Savage Nation contest: http://www.geocities.com/mr_vinnie_vegas/index.html)
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To: Graybeard58

And if it is a legitimate email, who cares? They are absolutely right... Wal-mart is the largest retailer in the world and they have to cater to more than the Christians during the month of December.

Boycott Wal-Mart? Ha! Fat chance.


6 posted on 11/09/2005 11:53:54 AM PST by Lunatic Fringe (North Texas Solutions http://ntxsolutions.com)
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To: big'ol_freeper; aculeus; Senator Bedfellow; All
“Walmart is a world wide organization and must remain conscious of this. The majority of the world still has different practices other than ‘christmas’ which is an ancient tradition that has its roots in Siberian shamanism. The colors associated with ‘christmas’ red and white are actually a representation of of the aminita mascera mushroom. Santa is also borrowed from the Caucuses, mistletoe from the Celts, yule log from the Goths, the time from the Visigoth and the tree from the worship of Baal. It is a wide wide world.”

Sorry, this alleged message pins my bogometer.

7 posted on 11/09/2005 11:53:58 AM PST by dighton
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To: big'ol_freeper
Something smells like a future Snopes entry. Of course, some dolts will surly buy into this... if they followed every one of these boycotts for every offense you read about, all they could do is stay home and hide in the closet..
8 posted on 11/09/2005 11:54:20 AM PST by mnehring (Rove/Libby 2008)
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To: big'ol_freeper

That reminds me of the rooster that smokes opium. Poppycock.


9 posted on 11/09/2005 11:54:36 AM PST by Past Your Eyes (I'm just sitting here on the Group W bench.)
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To: big'ol_freeper
Happy Dies Natalis Invicti Solis !
10 posted on 11/09/2005 11:55:32 AM PST by peyton randolph (Warning! It is illegal to fatwah a camel in all 50 states)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

I don't remember the Target thing - can you remind me? Walmart allows Salvation Army red kettles bell ringing and Target does not, so I prefer shopping at Walmart now.


11 posted on 11/09/2005 11:56:18 AM PST by GOPPachyderm
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To: discostu

"siberian shamanism"...
Puh Leeze.

Likely tipoff that this is a fake alert intended to damage WalMart ping.


12 posted on 11/09/2005 11:56:19 AM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: big'ol_freeper
Bill is right. When I type in Christmas, Walmart responds with, ‘We’ve brought you to our ‘Holiday’ page based on your search.’

I'd hate to pick on Walmart, but I must admit, I am troubled by this and hope that their discrimination against Christmas ceases immediately.
13 posted on 11/09/2005 11:56:31 AM PST by WashingtonStateRepublican
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To: Past Your Eyes
That reminds me of the rooster that smokes opium. Poppycock.

I gotta remember that one.

14 posted on 11/09/2005 11:56:51 AM PST by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: big'ol_freeper
Click on Christmas, and here’s what you get: ‘We’ve brought you to our ‘Holiday’ page based on your search.’
15 posted on 11/09/2005 11:56:58 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: big'ol_freeper

gee, I avoid Walmart simply because everything they sell is made in China and I won't fund their future war against Taiwan or the USA.


16 posted on 11/09/2005 11:57:29 AM PST by Jim Verdolini (We had it all, but the RINOs stalked the land and everything they touched was as dung and ashes!)
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To: Graybeard58

I dunno. I just did the searches at walmart.com and came up with exactly what the article said. You'll get responses for "kwanzaa" or "chanuka" but NOTHING for Christmas, expect that "holiday message". Odd.


17 posted on 11/09/2005 11:57:35 AM PST by GLDNGUN
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To: WashingtonStateRepublican

Click just below it on the part that says: "Not what you're looking for? View a list of items that match your search for "christmas"."


18 posted on 11/09/2005 11:57:45 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: big'ol_freeper
IB4Z!!!
20 posted on 11/09/2005 11:58:00 AM PST by paulat
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To: Lunatic Fringe

I did the search and the numbers match. Christmas does go to holiday. It's OK, I never go in there anyway.


21 posted on 11/09/2005 11:58:01 AM PST by JZelle
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To: big'ol_freeper

Then explain this:

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product_listing.gsp?cat=435596&path=0%3A5428%3A440989%3A435596


22 posted on 11/09/2005 11:58:49 AM PST by So Cal Rocket (Proud Member: Internet Pajama Wearers for Truth)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

Try the searches on their Website!! They refuse to acknowledge Christmas for fear of offending but they sure come up with a lot of Islamic propoganda and stuff when you do a search for Ramadan. Nice that they want to include everybody EXCEPT Christians.


23 posted on 11/09/2005 11:58:52 AM PST by dirtstiff
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To: WashingtonStateRepublican
Bill is right. When I type in Christmas, Walmart responds with, ‘We’ve brought you to our ‘Holiday’ page based on your search.’ I'd hate to pick on Walmart, but I must admit, I am troubled by this and hope that their discrimination against Christmas ceases immediately.

On the 'Holiday' page, the word Christmas appears at least 3 times. It seems more like the Christmas holidays is getting more attention from Wal Mart than others.. exactly opposite that the discrimination claimed.
24 posted on 11/09/2005 11:58:55 AM PST by mnehring (Rove/Libby 2008)
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To: big'ol_freeper
Oh, this sounds bogus. I suspect one of those email hoaxes here. That does not sound like any corporate letter I've ever seen.
25 posted on 11/09/2005 11:59:09 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: mnehrling

I'm pretty sure some of those closet-hiders post here. ; )

But you are right. You can not control the world. We all need to pick our battles.


26 posted on 11/09/2005 11:59:16 AM PST by pollyannaish
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To: big'ol_freeper

Oh yeh, like no one's going to shop there if they don't see Christmas splade everywhere. The dippy sheeple will never notice the difference.


27 posted on 11/09/2005 11:59:23 AM PST by wolfcreek
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To: big'ol_freeper; Budge

Hey Budge; what do you know about this?


28 posted on 11/09/2005 11:59:57 AM PST by sweetliberty (Stupidity should make you sterile.)
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To: big'ol_freeper

If this were some email of apocryphal origin this would be one matter. But this is the Catholic League's own press release for corn sakes. A Christmas tree is an evolution from Baal worship? Tell that to Martin Luther who invented it.

Walmart should be taught a lesson by Christians of all flavors, concerning biting the hand that feeds it. I say spend Black Friday at Target.


29 posted on 11/09/2005 11:59:59 AM PST by The Red Zone (Florida, the sun-shame state, and Illinois the chicken injun.)
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To: big'ol_freeper

BS


30 posted on 11/09/2005 12:00:05 PM PST by Protagoras (To keep freedom, you must give it away)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

ping...walmart


31 posted on 11/09/2005 12:00:11 PM PST by pointsal
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To: GLDNGUN
expect that "holiday message". Odd
Not odd, the Christmas holidays are given their own section instead of those items being buried throughout the site.. nothing weird here.
32 posted on 11/09/2005 12:00:13 PM PST by mnehring (Rove/Libby 2008)
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To: big'ol_freeper
Well, Donohue is dead on with the Walmart search engine. HOWEVER, you can click one more time and get to about 8000 "Christmas" items.

It's a bit odd that neither Chanukah nor Kwanzaa get you to the same "Holiday" page with the same admonition. Discrimination? Maybe. Inconsistency? DEFINITELY!
33 posted on 11/09/2005 12:00:16 PM PST by ssaftler
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To: Jim Verdolini

"I avoid Walmart simply because everything they sell is made in China "

Everything? I don't think so. Some stuff, but you'll find Chinese-made goods in every store in this country. I think you're incorrect, there, Jim.


34 posted on 11/09/2005 12:00:58 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: Graybeard58
Ok, hold on...it also says "View a list of items that match your search for "christmas"."

Click on that and you get all kinds of "Christmas". A hoax, indeed, I believe.

35 posted on 11/09/2005 12:01:01 PM PST by GLDNGUN
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Yes, Walmart does present items for purchase which include the word "Christmas" in their title. But when type in "Christmas" in a search field, I expect to receive a response which reflects what I searched for. I don't want to be brought to a p.c. friendly "Holiday" page when I specifically enter in "Christmas". Christmas is the reason for the season.


36 posted on 11/09/2005 12:01:25 PM PST by WashingtonStateRepublican
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To: mnehrling

But why have to slog through the stuff about other holidays. If I say Christmas I want Christmas. Google doesn't do this.


37 posted on 11/09/2005 12:01:36 PM PST by The Red Zone (Florida, the sun-shame state, and Illinois the chicken injun.)
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To: So Cal Rocket

There is no such thing as "Holiday trees".


38 posted on 11/09/2005 12:02:18 PM PST by VU4G10 (Have You Forgotten?)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Yes, just one extra step and there it is!


39 posted on 11/09/2005 12:02:21 PM PST by ozaukeemom (Nuke the ACLU and their snivel rights!)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

Wal-Mart is too big to be brought down?

US Steel.


Let he who thinks he stands, take heed lest he fall.


Reality is framed by the incarnation of God in flesh, and those who deny it will find themselves adrift in a pointless universe.


40 posted on 11/09/2005 12:02:27 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: big'ol_freeper
Reminds me of when I was in college and had to send holiday greetings out to my fraternity alumni.

One alumni complained about it being a "christmas" greeting.

So I followed up, pointed out so said brother who was offended, and then proceeded to name every single holiday that was possible for that time frame (yes I even included Kwanza, which brought a response from an african american brother who lectured me on how he does not respect "phoney counterfeit condezending pagan wannabe holidays....praise Jesus").

When PC goes bizare and weirdly wrong.

Sidenote: The brother who complained faced immediate verbal and written harassement.

41 posted on 11/09/2005 12:02:29 PM PST by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Jim Verdolini
gee, I avoid Walmart simply because everything they sell is made in China and I won't fund their future war against Taiwan or the USA.

Bingo!!

I just bought some new curtain rods yesterday.....had to search but found some ....

Made in USA.

42 posted on 11/09/2005 12:02:36 PM PST by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN
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To: Lunatic Fringe
Beware of boycott emails. Remember the whole Target thing?

(in my best monotone voice):Target is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful discount store I've ever known in my life.

43 posted on 11/09/2005 12:02:46 PM PST by InvisibleChurch (The search for someone to blame is always successful. - Robert Half)
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To: GLDNGUN
Click on that and you get all kinds of "Christmas". A hoax, indeed, I believe.
I would vote this is more of people obsessing for things to be offended at..
44 posted on 11/09/2005 12:02:48 PM PST by mnehring (My Karma ran over your Dogma)
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To: GLDNGUN

I just did a search too and they have all kinds of Christmas stuff for sale, maybe you didn't click enough.


45 posted on 11/09/2005 12:03:17 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: So Cal Rocket

Something definitely pagan about the "Set of three prelit Alpine"


46 posted on 11/09/2005 12:03:32 PM PST by Adder (Can we bring back stoning again? Please?)
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To: CROSSHIGHWAYMAN
Made in USA.
You know there is a town in Mexico named Usa where a lot of manufacturers moved..
47 posted on 11/09/2005 12:03:48 PM PST by mnehring (My Karma ran over your Dogma)
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To: GLDNGUN
Beware of boycott emails. Remember the whole Target thing?

it would be a ho-ho-hoax, in this case

48 posted on 11/09/2005 12:04:15 PM PST by InvisibleChurch (The search for someone to blame is always successful. - Robert Half)
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To: GLDNGUN

Excuse my last post. I just now caught up with you.


49 posted on 11/09/2005 12:04:22 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: big'ol_freeper
replacing “Merry Christmas” with “Happy Holidays” is the trend now among retailers and businesses big and small. Is Wall Mart doing it? I don't know, but if you boycott them because of it then you better be willing to cut out most of your shopping, flying, hotel stays, eating out, etc.

This is just another pick on Wall Mart story.
50 posted on 11/09/2005 12:04:30 PM PST by NavyCanDo
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