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Frist Worried About Leak, Not Prisons
AP on Yahoo ^ | 11/10/05 | Jonathan Katz - ap

Posted on 11/10/2005 12:17:59 PM PST by NormsRevenge

WASHINGTON - Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist says he is more concerned about the leak of information regarding secret CIA detention centers than activity in the prisons themselves.

Frist told reporters Thursday that while he believed illegal activity should not take place at detention centers, he believes the leak itself poses a greater threat to national security and is "not concerned about what goes on" behind the prison walls.

"My concern is with leaks of information that jeopardize your safety and security — period," Frist said. "That is a legitimate concern."

He noted that the CIA has also called for a federal criminal investigation into the leak of possibly classified information on secret prisons to The Washington Post. A Nov. 2 Post article touched on a number of sensitive national security issues, including the existence of secret CIA detention centers for suspected terrorists in Eastern European democracies. The Bush administration has neither confirmed nor denied that report.

Frist was asked if that meant he was not concerned about investigating what goes on in detention centers.

"I am not concerned about what goes on and I'm not going to comment about the nature of that," Frist replied.

He added that as Senate majority leader he is privy to classified information and discussions about prison activity. "I'm going to make sure that everything that's done is consistent with the Constitution ... and the laws of the United States of America," he said.

Frist and House Speaker Dennis Hastert, R-Ill., wrote the leaders of the House and Senate intelligence committees earlier this week calling for a joint congressional investigation into the leak.

"What is the actual and potential damage done to the national security of the United States and our partners in the global war on terror?" the letter said, referring to the leak.

The Post's story said the CIA has been hiding and interrogating some of its most important al-Qaida captives at a Soviet-era compound in Eastern Europe, part of a covert prison system set up by the agency four years ago that at various times has included sites in eight countries. Those countries, the Post said, include several democracies.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 109th; frist; leak; prisons; worried
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1 posted on 11/10/2005 12:18:00 PM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

"AP worried about Bush, not Al Qaeda."


2 posted on 11/10/2005 12:19:07 PM PST by inkling
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To: NormsRevenge

Ya gotta love the ap.. spin spin spin


3 posted on 11/10/2005 12:19:20 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Monthly Donor spoken Here. Go to ... https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: NormsRevenge

Can you believe it? A US Senator who cares more about the survival of the US than about the comfort of mass-murdering criminals?


4 posted on 11/10/2005 12:19:20 PM PST by samtheman
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To: samtheman

"A US Senator who cares more about the survival of the US than about the comfort of mass-murdering criminals?"

Yeah, the left just can't wrap their minds around that one.


5 posted on 11/10/2005 12:21:01 PM PST by L98Fiero
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To: NormsRevenge

You know, isn't that what the Democrats told us what was important, way back when those Rockefeller documents were discovered outlining the Democrats plans on opposing judicial nominees and the war? That what the memos talked about wasn't the issue, it was the fact that staffers had 'viewed them illegally and leaked them' - that was what should be investigated??? Sauce - Goose - Gander - and all that....


6 posted on 11/10/2005 12:22:59 PM PST by Bush_Democrat (Ex-Democrat since 2001)
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To: NormsRevenge
"he believes the leak itself poses a greater threat to national security and is "not concerned about what goes on" behind the prison walls."

Spoken like a true REMF.

7 posted on 11/10/2005 12:25:50 PM PST by ex-snook (Vote gridlock for the most conservative government)
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To: NormsRevenge

Frist is so lame... I thought he and Hastert were going to launch investigations... then he said he hadn't signed the request.. and now the Dems are trying to "widen" the probe (i.e. screw the Bush admin.)..


8 posted on 11/10/2005 12:27:38 PM PST by blaise
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To: NormsRevenge

And when the leaker is found, what does Frist propose be done to the leaker? And then when found to be a republican, does his propostion of punishment change?


9 posted on 11/10/2005 12:28:33 PM PST by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: ex-snook

REMF?


10 posted on 11/10/2005 12:29:00 PM PST by nuffsenuff (Don't get stuck on Stupid - General Russ Honore Sept 21, 2005)
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To: ex-snook

REMF?


11 posted on 11/10/2005 12:31:29 PM PST by hsalaw
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To: NormsRevenge
When the Senate Democrat memos on Intelligence and Judiciary strategies were leaked, where were the stories on "Democrats worried about leaks, not memos" stories?

-PJ

12 posted on 11/10/2005 12:32:55 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: hsalaw; nuffsenuff

rear-echelon motherf----r


13 posted on 11/10/2005 12:34:43 PM PST by evets (God bless president Bush!)
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To: hsalaw

REMF - Term applied by troops to those in no danger.


14 posted on 11/10/2005 12:34:58 PM PST by ex-snook (Vote gridlock for the most conservative government)
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To: NormsRevenge
Folks, When the SHTF, I hope you all REMEMBER the roles and positions that MSM, DNC, RINOS, most of Hollywood and the run of mill leftist rabble rousers and racists have played in assisting enemies of the Republic..

It will be a target rich enviornment -- discipline will be required to address all threats..

Semper Fi

15 posted on 11/10/2005 12:35:09 PM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Frist told reporters Thursday that while he believed illegal activity should not take place at detention centers, he believes the leak itself poses a greater threat to national security and is "not concerned about what goes on" behind the prison walls.

Any bets on how long before Frist and the party apologize and beg for forgiveness?

16 posted on 11/10/2005 12:36:05 PM PST by gg188
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To: samtheman

That's "alledged mass-murdering criminals" to you, sir.

The Constitution was meant to be a universalist document: it was meant to be a beacon to the world. That includes due process. I'm a patriot because of the ideals we're fighting for.

LET JUSTICE BE DONE THOUGH THE WORLD PERISH.


17 posted on 11/10/2005 12:36:17 PM PST by Nick5
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To: river rat

In the end. I have faith that God will keep his promises... unlike politcians and diplomats and despots.


18 posted on 11/10/2005 12:37:28 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Monthly Donor spoken Here. Go to ... https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: river rat

discipline will be required to address all threats..


and whole lot of ammunition.


19 posted on 11/10/2005 12:37:48 PM PST by DarthVader (Do something positive for your country today: Punch an America hating leftie in the mouth.)
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To: NormsRevenge
The Post's story said the CIA has been hiding and interrogating some of its most important al-Qaida captives at a Soviet-era compound in Eastern Europe, part of a covert prison system set up by the agency four years ago that at various times has included sites in eight countries.

Oh, lord. Couldn't they have picked non-Soviet-era compounds in non-Eastern European nations?
20 posted on 11/10/2005 12:38:23 PM PST by BikerNYC (Modernman should not have been banned.)
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To: evets

Oh. Hehehehe. Thanks.


21 posted on 11/10/2005 12:40:04 PM PST by hsalaw
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To: Phantom Lord

And when the leaker is found, what does Frist propose be done to the leaker? And then when found to be a republican, does his propostion of punishment change?

Put their ass in jail. Case closed.


22 posted on 11/10/2005 12:42:56 PM PST by kaktuskid
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To: NormsRevenge

I'm sure glad these pukes in Congress (Dims and Pubs alike) have so much time on their hands that they can spend it ringing their hands over this bull****.

Maybe we need to fire every last one of them and let them earn their money like the rest of us do while they are playing with their interns.


23 posted on 11/10/2005 12:48:30 PM PST by Leatherneck_MT (3-7-77 (No that's not a Date))
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To: NormsRevenge

24 posted on 11/10/2005 12:49:55 PM PST by Petronski (Cyborg is the greatest blessing I have ever known.)
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To: Nick5

You realize don't you, that when the terrorist walk through the canyon sized cracks in our security, opened up by the ACLU and other traitors, that the resultant post-carnage crackdown will end this argument for many generations. We who want to prevent terrorism (even if erring on the side of stringency) are actually doing more in the long run to protect human rights (by forestalling the clampdown that will follow a mighty terror attack) than all the bleeding heart traitors in the western world.


25 posted on 11/10/2005 12:57:08 PM PST by samtheman
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To: Petronski

Do these prison abuse people also care what happens to American prisoners in American prisons? I hear they are subject to assault and rape and all get AIDS. Oh, no? I didn't think so.


26 posted on 11/10/2005 12:58:01 PM PST by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: DarthVader
"...and a whole lot of ammunition."

I roll my own.....LOTS of it.
That will not be our neighborhood's problem......

But I'm getting so damned old, if it doesn't blow soon, the only thing I could do is hold hold my own perimeter, rather than go out beating bushes to flush "birds".....

Semper Fi

27 posted on 11/10/2005 1:01:29 PM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: samtheman

If we are torturing human beings because we suspect they might be our enemies then we have already fallen. Your reasoning could be used to support any tyranny. That's the downside of democracy, and God bless it. Makes it harder, but why else would the struggle be worth it? Stalin and Lenin proceeded on the basis that you can't make an omelet without cracking some eggs. Are we to settle for their standard of right and wrong? The ENDS DO NOT JUSTIFY THE MEANS.


28 posted on 11/10/2005 1:04:19 PM PST by Nick5
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To: NormsRevenge

Ack!

A Republican finally stood up to them on this? And it was Frist? WTG Senator!

Damn right the concern ahould be our security and that leak, not the comfort of damn terrorists!

See Reps? We want more of THIS! No more of voting for the King Rino's terrorist protection bill. Got it?


29 posted on 11/10/2005 1:05:03 PM PST by Soul Seeker (Mr. President: It is now time to turn over the money changers' tables.)
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To: NormsRevenge
"..I have faith that God will keep his promises."

Roger that, and I'm confident he wouldn't object to his flock being protected by some interlocking covering fire....

Happy Birthday, brother.

Semper Fi

30 posted on 11/10/2005 1:06:45 PM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: Nick5

Jeeze Louise I hate to break it to you but this country has never been pristine particularly in times of war. Neither has any other country.


31 posted on 11/10/2005 1:30:22 PM PST by bkepley
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To: Nick5

I'm just telling you what's going to happen if you get your way. A mega terror attack will lead to an end to this argument. There will be no more discussion. Please tell me you at least understand the concept of an end of democracy if the terror attack is big enough. I would really like you to think about that.


32 posted on 11/10/2005 1:35:43 PM PST by samtheman
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To: samtheman

What you are saying is of course true, in terms of what can happen now. Think of this, too: Today on the streets of Jordan ordinary citizens were marching and crying out that last night's wedding murders have nothing to do with Islam. We need to keep encouraging that, to be a light to the hopes of ordinary people everywhere, and if there are prisoners lying lonely and terrified and tormented in an American-run prison in Romania, who are innocent, then we are just different from our enemies but not better, and if we're not better, why should the ordinary citizens on the streets of Aman or Cairo or Jakarta look to our way as a better way? The rules of due process in the Constitution reflect universal and, I believe, divinely ordained truths. Do divinely ordained truths come with geographical or ethnic borders?


33 posted on 11/10/2005 1:43:56 PM PST by Nick5
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To: Nick5
...crying out that last night's wedding murders have nothing to do with Islam.

They march in the street because the attack was on them. You didn't see the same outrage when the attack was on the U.K. or for that matter on the U.S.

35 posted on 11/10/2005 1:54:48 PM PST by Dan(9698)
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To: bkepley

At some point somebody has to say: you know, thousand of years of human history, maybe there's a better way to do this. Thomas Jefferson did that. Time to do it again, in every way we can.


36 posted on 11/10/2005 1:58:33 PM PST by Nick5
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To: Dan(9698)

What's surprising about that? Whatever brings it home to them.


37 posted on 11/10/2005 2:00:36 PM PST by Nick5
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To: Nick5

You express fine sentiments, and express them well. All worthy goals. But what I read between your lines (and I apologize if I'm reading wrong) is that you don't really trust our guys to have a pretty damn good idea of who it is they have locked up and I'm not sure you see a huge difference between our guys getting tough with a suspected terrorist and a dictatorship getting tough with somebody who just wants freedom of speech. Let's forget about appearances for a moment, and talk about reality. You do see a difference, right?


38 posted on 11/10/2005 2:13:47 PM PST by samtheman
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To: Dan(9698)

PS: Sometimes the ends do justify the means.

If you're talking about stamping out human freedom to create a theoretical utopia, then no, the ends don't justify the means.

But if this guy I have here in front of me knows where a suitcase nuke is ticking away somewhere in lower manhattan, and has already admitted that he knows, then sorry Charlie, the ends justify any damn means I can devise, as long as they work.

And I know one of the leftist methodologies is to claim "torture never works, you can get anybody to say anything under torture", but of course that's an obfuscation and a lie when you're talking about specific verifiable pieces of information.

Torture works. If the circumstances are right and you've got the right people locked up.

To risk millions of American lives to protect the theoretical rights of some lousy murdering scumbag terrorists... now there's a clear case of the ends not justifying the means.

The end (being able to say "we are pure, we are PC") does not justify the means (sacrificing millions of American lives).


39 posted on 11/10/2005 2:19:32 PM PST by samtheman
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To: NormsRevenge
In the end. I have faith that God will keep his promises...

I would BACK that statement, as he has not failed on any of them yet, and every day new discoveries show we are heading to the BIG promise.

40 posted on 11/10/2005 2:24:51 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (I jez calls it az I see it.)
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To: samtheman

I guess in answer to your question I have to go back to my sense of what God expects of us. I think He expects really a lot and I don't think He often gets it. The notion of our guys having, as you say, "a pretty damn good idea of who it is they have locked up" is exactly the problem. The Old Testament lays out an incredibly stringent burden of proof in legal cases--multiple eyewitnesses, etc. The Constitution echoes that. Nowhere does it say that punishment--and torture is punishment, whatever its goal--can be meted out if the arresting officer has a pretty damn good idea of who it is he has locked up. God is always watching, whether it's the dictator's henchmen or the CIA guy in an unnamed Eastern European country.


41 posted on 11/10/2005 2:32:47 PM PST by Nick5
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To: BikerNYC

I don't see why anyone on the Left should be upset about this. I mean, after all, the dirt-bags are being housed in Soviet-era compounds; and the Soviet Union was Paradise on earth.


42 posted on 11/10/2005 2:35:15 PM PST by Arm_Bears (If the people lead, the leaders will follow.)
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To: Nick5
The ENDS DO NOT JUSTIFY THE MEANS

Repeat that calmly when you are on your knees having your throat cut.

43 posted on 11/10/2005 2:37:13 PM PST by Stentor
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To: Bush_Democrat

When the only people that point out their hypocrisy is talk-radio & conservative forums... they can lie all they want. Our elected Republicans are tongueless, cowering pissants.


44 posted on 11/10/2005 2:38:26 PM PST by johnny7 (“What now? Let me tell you what now.”)
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To: nuffsenuff

Rear - Echelon - Mother -F***er


45 posted on 11/10/2005 2:39:43 PM PST by Jim Noble (Non, je ne regrette rien)
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To: Nick5
At some point somebody has to say: you know, thousand of years of human history, maybe there's a better way to do this. Thomas Jefferson did that. Time to do it again, in every way we can.

Jefferson could have started by practicing what he preached you know.

46 posted on 11/10/2005 2:49:57 PM PST by bkepley
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To: bkepley

Yep--couldn't we all!


47 posted on 11/10/2005 2:50:35 PM PST by Nick5
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To: Nick5
... if there are prisoners lying lonely and terrified and tormented in an American-run prison in Romania, who are innocent, then we are just different from our enemies but not better, and if we're not better, why should the ordinary citizens on the streets of Aman or Cairo or Jakarta look to our way as a better way?

I've got news for you. The chances of "innocent" prisoners being in one of those prisons is practically zero and nil - and "nil" is winning.

These killers are well-vetted before they even get the chance of being an honored guest in one of these places.

Shed not a tear for any of these vicious murderers. You're wasting your time and your tears. Shed them instead for their tortured, dead victims. Rather, just pray they never again see the light of day - especially in your neighborhood or the neighborhood of somebody you love!

48 posted on 11/10/2005 2:54:40 PM PST by Gritty ("The more Islamists step on our toes, the more we waltz them gaily round the room" - Mark Steyn)
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To: Nick5
legal cases
These are not "legal cases". This is war. The winner will be around later to be nice to others (or not, in the case of the Islamofacists). The losers won't even be remembered.
49 posted on 11/10/2005 3:03:50 PM PST by samtheman
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To: Gritty

You are assuming to know things that only God can know.


50 posted on 11/10/2005 3:06:39 PM PST by Nick5
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