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LIVE THREAD: Rumsfeld's Press brief from the Pentagon..live on C-span 1, 1:15 PM est

Posted on 11/15/2005 10:06:01 AM PST by ken5050

The Senate has head their fun today. Now we get to hear Rummy's take on events. Should be interesting..MSM will be in full cry..


TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: dod; iraq; oif; resolve; rumsfeld
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1 posted on 11/15/2005 10:06:03 AM PST by ken5050
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To: ken5050; OXENinFLA; Cboldt; Mo1; Bahbah

FYI


2 posted on 11/15/2005 10:06:34 AM PST by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to pass on her gene pool....any volunteers?)
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To: ken5050

Suited up, locked n loaded!


3 posted on 11/15/2005 10:06:54 AM PST by Semper Paratus
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To: ken5050

bttt


4 posted on 11/15/2005 10:07:10 AM PST by Txsleuth (I am the real TXSLEUTH...please freepmail me if you doubt it.)
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To: ken5050

Well you have to ask the Senate Leadership why they thought they needed to vote on something we all ready are doing.


5 posted on 11/15/2005 10:07:12 AM PST by MNJohnnie (100% of Islamic Terrorists disapprove of the job President Bush is doing)
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To: MNJohnnie

Wish he would say it, he will not.


6 posted on 11/15/2005 10:07:42 AM PST by MNJohnnie (100% of Islamic Terrorists disapprove of the job President Bush is doing)
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To: ken5050; Mo1; Howlin; Peach; BeforeISleep; kimmie7; 4integrity; BigSkyFreeper; RandallFlagg; ...

Ping....


7 posted on 11/15/2005 10:11:31 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: All

has Rumsfeld mentioned this morning's STUNT?


8 posted on 11/15/2005 10:13:41 AM PST by LadyBuzz
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To: ken5050

I am at work. What's his point today?


9 posted on 11/15/2005 10:13:48 AM PST by Preachin' (Enoch's testimony was that he pleased God: Why are we still here?)
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To: ken5050

WASHINGTON, Nov 15 (Reuters) - U.S. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld on Tuesday joined President George W. Bush's counter-offensive against Iraq war critics, retracing what Rumsfeld called the "actual history" of U.S. involvement in Iraq.

Bush has twice in recent days ripped into Democrats who have accused the Republican president and other top administration officials, including Rumsfeld and Vice President Dick Cheney, of manipulating intelligence on weapons of mass destruction to justify the 2003 U.S.-led invasion of Iraq.

No such weapons were found and the Bush administration has been hounded by Democratic critics over its use of prewar intelligence as public support for the war wanes amid rising U.S. casualties.

Echoing Bush's stance that the administration was not alone in believing Iraq posed a threat, Rumsfeld quoted former President Bill Clinton and senior Clinton administration officials as warning in 1998 that then-Iraqi President Saddam Hussein planned to use weapons of mass destruction.

In remarks prepared for delivery to a later news conference, the defense secretary quoted Clinton as saying in 1998 in an address that "other countries possess weapons of mass destruction and ballistic missiles."

"With Saddam, there is one big difference: he has used them ... the international community had little doubt then, and I have no doubt today, that left unchecked Saddam Hussein will use these terrible weapons again," Clinton added shortly after he ordered limited military action against Iraq in response to Baghdad's decision to expel U.N. weapons inspectors.


10 posted on 11/15/2005 10:14:14 AM PST by Quilla
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To: OXENinFLA

Bump - Thanks for the ping.


11 posted on 11/15/2005 10:15:35 AM PST by Gucho
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To: LadyBuzz

What stunt?


12 posted on 11/15/2005 10:16:52 AM PST by prairiebreeze (Take the high road. You'll never have to meet a Democrat.)
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To: ken5050
This supposed to be on C-span1?
13 posted on 11/15/2005 10:17:18 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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http://www.c-span.org/watch/cspanradio.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CSR


Rummy's on C-SPAN RADIO


14 posted on 11/15/2005 10:18:42 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: Quilla
Names will begin to be placed with quotes. GW fired a salvo across the Dems's bow a few days ago with the unattributed quote. The Dems kept coming. Yesterday he ramped it up with more quotes, still with no attribution. Now the Dems say they didn't have the same intel as the president (another lie). I expect Rumsfeld to point out that the intel the president saw painted a much bleaker picture.
15 posted on 11/15/2005 10:18:51 AM PST by gov_bean_ counter (It is easy to call for a pi$$ing contest when you aren't going to be in the line of fire.)
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To: OXENinFLA

not on Cspan 1 here but CNN is now playing part now - he just mentioned the Iraq Liberation Act which Pre BILL CLINTON signed & Congress approved - he's now quoting Al Gore - GO Rummy


16 posted on 11/15/2005 10:19:12 AM PST by LadyBuzz
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Oh, C-span1 picked him up now.


17 posted on 11/15/2005 10:19:44 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: OXENinFLA

Also on cspan 1 tv.


18 posted on 11/15/2005 10:20:01 AM PST by debg
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To: gov_bean_ counter

Rummy quoting "Burglar" and other Dems!


19 posted on 11/15/2005 10:20:11 AM PST by Soul Seeker (Mr. President: It is now time to turn over the money changers' tables.)
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To: LadyBuzz

Woo-Hoo....namin' names and keeping score...! (Can't say it the other way..!)


20 posted on 11/15/2005 10:20:27 AM PST by HiJinx (~ www.ProudPatriots.org ~ Serving Those Who Serve Us ~ Operation Season's Greetings ~)
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To: gov_bean_ counter
Now the Dems say they didn't have the same intel as the president (another lie).

You couldn't be more correct. Here is the next paragraph from the article excerpted above:

Democrats have responded to the administration's counter-attack by denying they saw the same intelligence as the administration before the war. They have accused the administration of trying to convince the U.S. public there was a link between Saddam and al Qaeda even though the intelligence community rejected that idea.

21 posted on 11/15/2005 10:21:32 AM PST by Quilla
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To: HiJinx

You can't say GW didn't give the Dems a chance to back off.


22 posted on 11/15/2005 10:21:32 AM PST by gov_bean_ counter (It is easy to call for a pi$$ing contest when you aren't going to be in the line of fire.)
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To: LadyBuzz

FOX just broke for Rummy with the comment -- :this should be good!"


23 posted on 11/15/2005 10:22:12 AM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: gov_bean_ counter

Let's Roll! - Bring It On!


24 posted on 11/15/2005 10:22:32 AM PST by LadyBuzz
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To: gov_bean_ counter

GW waited a bit too long but looks like the gloves are off now - how will the MSM spin this?


25 posted on 11/15/2005 10:23:44 AM PST by LadyBuzz
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To: Quilla
No such weapons were found and the Bush administration has been hounded by Democratic critics over its use of prewar intelligence as public support for the war wanes amid rising U.S. casualties.

I wish people would quit using the "no such weapons were found" statement. Weapons, 53 of them including a sarin gas shell were found. The goal posts were then moved to "no stockpiles of WMDs were found or the WMDs that were found were pre 1991. Also the uranium, that we knew about and was under the control of the IEA (until Saddam kicked them out) was also secured.

Is it too much to ask to put the story in context?

26 posted on 11/15/2005 10:24:09 AM PST by hawkaw
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To: ken5050

Calling for a fast typer to post the Q & A as fast as possible. A new firewall and an additional "update" has shut down Cspan audio and video access for me.

Thanks in advance.

:(


27 posted on 11/15/2005 10:25:01 AM PST by Eagle of Liberty (11, 175, 77, 93 - In Memory Always)
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Rummy now taking questions


28 posted on 11/15/2005 10:25:04 AM PST by LadyBuzz
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Rummy now taking questions


29 posted on 11/15/2005 10:25:07 AM PST by LadyBuzz
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To: LadyBuzz

IMO Rummy is going to do much better than Scott Mc.


31 posted on 11/15/2005 10:26:18 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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I could do better than Scott!


32 posted on 11/15/2005 10:26:48 AM PST by mystery-ak (Army Wife.....toughest job in the military)
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To: Quilla

What was the deal with the Church Commission findings back in the 1970s? They looked into CIA assassination etc. activity and established the requirement for congressional oversight of intelligence activity, no? Didn't that establish the fact that the Senate and House were to have a separate-but-equal status with the Executive Branch in overseeing intelligence activity? If that's the case, then Congress can not now plead ignorance regarding Iraq intelligence. Anyone know how the Church Commission's work plays out here?


33 posted on 11/15/2005 10:27:38 AM PST by catch
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To: Baynative

I'm not a fast typist but suffice it to say that Rummy is holding his own & name dropping RATS like crazy - it's a beautiful thing


34 posted on 11/15/2005 10:27:45 AM PST by LadyBuzz
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To: ken5050
Discussing buying more C-17s right now.
35 posted on 11/15/2005 10:27:50 AM PST by McGruff (Investigate the CIA! They are the problem.)
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To: LadyBuzz

mark


36 posted on 11/15/2005 10:27:52 AM PST by eyespysomething (When a soldier dies, a protester gloats, a family cries, an Iraqi votes.)
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To: mystery-ak

LOL! A hundred times better.


37 posted on 11/15/2005 10:28:27 AM PST by Quilla
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To: LadyBuzz

Please post questions and responses......


38 posted on 11/15/2005 10:28:38 AM PST by Eagle of Liberty (11, 175, 77, 93 - In Memory Always)
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Rummy just asked about Warner/Frist episode this morning & if this like VN - Rummy says NO


40 posted on 11/15/2005 10:29:05 AM PST by LadyBuzz
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To: Baynative

The problem is not winning the war, but persuading the people to let them win the war.....Churchill....quoted by Rummy


41 posted on 11/15/2005 10:30:28 AM PST by mystery-ak (Army Wife.....toughest job in the military)
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To: LadyBuzz

he ought to turn the Vietnam argument around on the Dems - if we simply cut and run, it will be like Vietnam - we'll lose.


42 posted on 11/15/2005 10:30:45 AM PST by oceanview
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To: Baynative

Rummy is praising Lieberman now


43 posted on 11/15/2005 10:31:13 AM PST by LadyBuzz
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To: Baynative

Asking question about the bumbleheaded grandstanding move by Warner/Frist-Siganl growing impatience similiat to early '70's debates on Vietnam?

Rummy- wouldn't go down that road myself. War dangerous, heatbreaking thing. Churchill said problem isn't winning war, it's persuading people to let him win the war. Good quote. Free systems allow these open debates and discussions. Factual addition- DOF send dozens of updates, 7 required, ettc...updates on Iraqi security forces..many address what the amendment covers...every right to ask for reports, they send them. Hopes they read them! LOL

Leiberman said it seems to me one of these amendments would send message discouraging troops, confuse Iraqi people. Amendment by Dems defeated, Rummy's respoinse- GOOD. LOL

Rummy lots of confidence in people, confidence in Senate because they represent people, American people have good sense of gravity.


44 posted on 11/15/2005 10:32:25 AM PST by Soul Seeker (Mr. President: It is now time to turn over the money changers' tables.)
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To: oceanview

The rats won't be happy until they see the American people spitting on our soldiers...


45 posted on 11/15/2005 10:32:28 AM PST by mystery-ak (Army Wife.....toughest job in the military)
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To: OXENinFLA

Thanks Oxen!


46 posted on 11/15/2005 10:32:55 AM PST by tiredoflaundry ("Yoot" - French for Muslim Rioters)
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question about retiring the USS Kennedy and Japan


47 posted on 11/15/2005 10:33:05 AM PST by LadyBuzz
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Can we decom Teddy w/ JFK?


48 posted on 11/15/2005 10:34:55 AM PST by Steely eyed killer of the deep
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honest mistakes on intelligence - probably better intel than previous years - perfect? no Better? Yes Time will tell - we'll learn


49 posted on 11/15/2005 10:35:07 AM PST by LadyBuzz
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To: tiredoflaundry

Reporter-let down by intelligence?

Rummy- No intentional mistakes in intelligence, honest mistakes. Feel letdown somehting is inaccurate and imperfect? Would be letdown everyday if so. Tough job, better or worse in previous eras? His guess better than previous eras. More people and more money to improve.

Reporter- WMD not there?

Rummy- Time will tell. We'll learn. Ah-ha! Rummy doesn't accept that there were no WMD or he'd say so.


50 posted on 11/15/2005 10:35:41 AM PST by Soul Seeker (Mr. President: It is now time to turn over the money changers' tables.)
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