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One Woman's Choice
The Washington Post ^ | November 15, 2005 | Maria Eftimiades

Posted on 11/16/2005 3:59:31 AM PST by Eepsy

"So when do you go for the abortion?'' my friend asked, her voice sympathetic.

"Wednesday,'' I replied, and then hurriedly got off the phone. I called Mike, my boyfriend, in tears, complaining about how inconsiderate people are, how no one thinks before they speak. The truth was, until I heard the word "abortion,'' it hadn't occurred to me that I was actually having one.

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1 posted on 11/16/2005 3:59:31 AM PST by Eepsy
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To: Eepsy
As for that baby that will never be, I will remember him always. But I'm quite certain that I made the right choice for the three of us.

I guess the baby that will never be didn't get a chance to disgree with dear old mom about whether she made the right choice. She knew the pregnancy was going to be high risk. Her and dipwad boyfriend should have used birth control given their ages. Morons. Absolute friggin' morons.

2 posted on 11/16/2005 4:03:41 AM PST by peyton randolph (Warning! It is illegal to fatwah a camel in all 50 states)
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To: peyton randolph

disgree = disagree.


3 posted on 11/16/2005 4:04:42 AM PST by peyton randolph (Warning! It is illegal to fatwah a camel in all 50 states)
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To: Eepsy

"The truth was, until I heard the word "abortion,'' it hadn't occurred to me that I was actually having one. "

Hey, don't give it a second thought. TOo bad someone dared to mention the word and wake up up, just alittle.

Sarcasm off.


4 posted on 11/16/2005 4:05:22 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people believe in Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Eepsy

Someone should have said , when are you murdering your unborn child. Maybe she would have thought that inconsiderate too. I couuldnt get the link to work.


5 posted on 11/16/2005 4:08:29 AM PST by sgtbono2002
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To: Eepsy
Looks like she has alittle shame ... trying to think of what lie to tell people ... .

"When I walked into the hospital, no one knew why, or cared. The nurses were kind and the doctor held my hand as the anesthesia took over."

How nice of the medical profession to be so cold. I suppose this is the result of situaiton ethics - how nice. Sarcasm off.
6 posted on 11/16/2005 4:09:19 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people believe in Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Eepsy
One of the most self-indulgent attempts at denial that I've read since that Anna Quindlan column in the NYT that described each of her three abortions.

Meanwhile, the 52 year-old ex-hippie father breathes a big sigh of relief.
7 posted on 11/16/2005 4:11:35 AM PST by horse_doc
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To: Eepsy

For these people it is all about them. They can choose to bring a child into the world but they can't get married first and provide a stable home first... Nor can they deal with any other inconvenience... Got to terminate any inconveniences...


8 posted on 11/16/2005 4:13:10 AM PST by DB ()
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To: Eepsy

What a total AIRHEAD.........


9 posted on 11/16/2005 4:15:09 AM PST by yer gonna put yer eye out (Will quip for food...)
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To: Eepsy

I can't stand how these women think if they talk about how difficult their decision was or that they'll "mourn the child that would never be" that somehow it makes everything alright, even noble. Sorta like the Menedez brothers killing their parents and then being sad about being orphans.


10 posted on 11/16/2005 4:17:39 AM PST by Lacey
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To: Eepsy

I feel sorry for her. Even though she believes that she made the right choice, she will never be the same emotionally.


11 posted on 11/16/2005 4:23:27 AM PST by shattered
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To: Eepsy

One's baby's choice: "Don't kill me!"


12 posted on 11/16/2005 4:24:27 AM PST by Appalled but Not Surprised
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To: DB

This 'woman' is a weak, immoral, mealy-mouthed apologist for the evils of abortion - her 'man' is simply a pussy.


13 posted on 11/16/2005 4:24:47 AM PST by Luker
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To: peyton randolph

Her and dipwad boyfriend should have used birth control given their ages.>>

No they shouldn't. The use of contraceptives is mortally sinful regardless of circumstances. The child should have been allowed to live. End of story.


14 posted on 11/16/2005 4:25:51 AM PST by Appalled but Not Surprised
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To: Appalled but Not Surprised

Her and dipwad boyfriend should have used birth control given their ages.>>

No they shouldn't. The use of contraceptives is mortally sinful regardless of circumstances. The child should have been allowed to live. End of story.

Let's take it one step further, if we're talking "sinful," and suggest that maybe - possibly - if they weren't married, they shouldn't have been having sex??? God lists the "big 10" and adultery and murder are both on there. Somehow, the USofA in 2005 has decided that God didn't *really* mean that "thou shalt not commit adultery" thing. (And yes, adultery is any sex outside the bonds of marriage.)


15 posted on 11/16/2005 4:31:49 AM PST by Day Kay
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To: Eepsy
If abortion is legal, there should be a time limit set on it.
I suggest 18 or 21.
Just think how convenient it would be for woman to tell her child "If you don't clean your room, I will abort you".
16 posted on 11/16/2005 4:33:14 AM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (expert, break it down, ex = has been, spurt = drip under pressure.)
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To: Luker
There are "life of the mother" exceptions to abortion. I strongly suspect that this wasn't one of them. There are "high risk" exceptions in which the mother's life is absolutely forfeit if the child is carried to term. I can understand an abortion in those circumstances. I don't believe that that was the situation here.

You all know the shortest sentence in the Bible don't you? "Jesus wept."

Be Seeing You,

Chris

17 posted on 11/16/2005 4:34:55 AM PST by section9 (Major Motoko Kusanagi says, "Jesus is Coming. Everybody look busy...")
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To: Eepsy; All

Reminds me of an old article:

http://www.lifeissues.org/radio/r1999/r99-06/lr2077.html
In the Wall Street Journal there was an op-ed piece entitled “Ordinary Abortions.”


18 posted on 11/16/2005 4:39:25 AM PST by backhoe
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To: Appalled but Not Surprised
The use of contraceptives is mortally sinful regardless of circumstances

Did you mean morally sinful? Abortion is wrong but, to say the use of contraception is wrong is stretching abit too far.IMHO
19 posted on 11/16/2005 4:40:35 AM PST by wolfcreek
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To: Eepsy
This is an example of the perfect story the pro-choice crowd would want to run now that Alito will be facing the panel soon. I can't wait for the inevitable question now - What if it was you in this situation? Is it right to force these happy people to a life of suffering and financial ruin because of your beliefs? blah, blah, blah...
Funny how she likes the anonymity when she goes in to kill her son, and talks about how her mother protects her by telling her sister-in-law she "lost" the baby then she goes and profits from it by selling it to the paper that millions of people read, so proud of her decision like it was the hard way out instead of the chicken-sh*t way it truly is.
20 posted on 11/16/2005 4:41:08 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly catching hell for posting without reading since 2004)
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To: section9
What exceptions would there need to be? It's legal for any
21 posted on 11/16/2005 4:44:06 AM PST by nickcarraway (I'm Only Alive, Because a Judge Hasn't Ruled I Should Die...)
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To: section9
I am one of those 'high risk' mothers. You can bet your life that I made VERY sure I did NOT get pregnant.

Pregnancy is not something you catch like a cold.

There are choices to make that do not include killing your unborn baby.

22 posted on 11/16/2005 4:45:32 AM PST by OldFriend (The Dems enABLEd DANGER and 3,000 Americans died.)
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To: Eepsy
No one is saying it's easy, But everyone's life is worth living.
23 posted on 11/16/2005 4:46:59 AM PST by LauraleeBraswell
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To: shattered

"I feel sorry for her. Even though she believes that she made the right choice, she will never be the same emotionally."

I feel sorry for her too. It seems like it was a gut wrenching decision. Because they were older, they probably didn't want the problems and the time it would consume in their life. Pretty selfish if you ask me.
One other thing...these tests aren't always correct.


24 posted on 11/16/2005 4:48:44 AM PST by Cricket24 ("We have met the enemy and it's the U.S. press (and the democrats and some Republicans)!")
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To: Eepsy

One moral to this story is, nature intended for humans to have children at a much younger age than these folks. Raising children takes more energy than people in their 50's and 60's can muster.


25 posted on 11/16/2005 4:51:33 AM PST by wolfcreek
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To: Eepsy

Ah...the liberal attitude to those with handicaps on full display. It reared its ugly head during the Terri disaster Jessi Jackson notwithstanding as well.


26 posted on 11/16/2005 4:53:44 AM PST by xp38
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To: All

For a few years I worked in a mental health hospital which also operated a day care program for mentally disabled people including those adults or late teens with Down Syndrome. They gathered during the week for activities and developing learning skills and went on arranged field trips. Occasionally they raised money for their craft supplies by making dinner for the people in the hospital and the staff as well.

They had a memorable time serving spaghetti lunches to long lines of staff and patients (making a statement about the hospital food too I believe), and we all had a great time interacting with these people.

Know why? I have never seen such truly happy people. The patients were naturally unhappy and depressed in most cases, if not paranoid or out of it....and the staff were rushed, tired, cranky and all those things you encounter in a working environment which has a stress level of high proportions.

The most free, most accepting people were the disabled folk - especially the Down Syndrome group who were great communicators, enjoyed showing us their crafts at a moment's notice, and seemed to grateful to have a busy day ahead of them, enjoying life's simple pleasures. To be alive....and busy.

I often wondered which group was the "disabled" in our crowd.


27 posted on 11/16/2005 4:57:35 AM PST by imintrouble
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To: Eepsy
"Mike and I weren't married, and had decided to wait before taking that step."

Wait for what? Retirement? She's 42 and he's 52. Just how long are they planning on waiting? If they're not ready by now, they're never going to be.

28 posted on 11/16/2005 5:00:15 AM PST by sweetliberty (Stupidity should make you sterile.)
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To: Eepsy
When I hung up, I told Mike, "It's Down syndrome''

OK, that's enough for me.

Now let's put our thinking caps on, Leftists. If it's better to kill a baby than to let it live with Down's Syndrome, what should we do about those people currently living with Down's Syndrome? Wouldn't they be better off dead too?

In fact, I'm sure that's what you believe. You just don't have the guts to pull the trigger. At least not yet. Thank God.

29 posted on 11/16/2005 5:00:40 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Eepsy
Don't they know that the term abortion has been replaced with better terms like "choice" and "family-planning"?

How inconsiderate of the friend to use such a comnemning word like "abortion".


/sarcasm

Actually, I'm glad that it got under the pregnant woman's skin. Hopefully she'll go the right way by repenting and asking Jesus into her heart.
30 posted on 11/16/2005 5:01:21 AM PST by Preachin' (Enoch's testimony was that he pleased God: Why are we still here?)
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To: Day Kay
Let's take it one step further, if we're talking "sinful," and suggest that maybe - possibly - if they weren't married, they shouldn't have been having sex???

I blame people who watch and support tv shows like "Sex in the City' & "Housewives'. It's those people who are supporting immoral actions.

31 posted on 11/16/2005 5:01:57 AM PST by Fawn (Try not---do or do not. ~~ Yoda)
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To: Appalled but Not Surprised
The use of contraceptives is mortally sinful regardless of circumstances.

They had already sinned. They were having sex outside of marriage.

Moral of the story... If you are going to sin, take precautions so you don't conceive a baby you are going to kill.

32 posted on 11/16/2005 5:06:50 AM PST by Mr. Brightside
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To: wolfcreek
Abortion is wrong but, to say the use of contraception is wrong is stretching abit too far.IMHO

I thought that at one time too. But listen to the other side of the argument which is based entirely on the natural law. Note this prophetic passage in particular.

Responsible men can become more deeply convinced of the truth of [this] ...if they reflect on the consequences of methods and plans for artificial birth control. Let them first consider how easily this course of action could open wide the way for marital infidelity and a general lowering of moral standards. Not much experience is needed to be fully aware of human weakness and to understand that human beings—and especially the young, who are so exposed to temptation—need incentives to keep the moral law, and it is an evil thing to make it easy for them to break that law. Another effect that gives cause for alarm is that a man who grows accustomed to the use of contraceptive methods may forget the reverence due to a woman, and, disregarding her physical and emotional equilibrium, reduce her to being a mere instrument for the satisfaction of his own desires, no longer considering her as his partner whom he should surround with care and affection.
Keep in mind that all Protestant denominations opposed artificial means of contraception until 1929.
33 posted on 11/16/2005 5:06:58 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Eepsy
This truly makes me sad as I know one couple at church who knew they were going to have a baby with Down's, and, although it's been difficult for them, have done a wonderful job in raising the little boy.

As a woman myself, I just can't imagine the thought process you would have to go through to convince yourself it's okay to kill your baby. My husband and I don't want to have children at this point in our lives, but if I did get pregnant, there is no way I would not have the baby - even if he or she does have Down's or some other kind of "defect." I'm seriously really upset by this article, and I can't help but feel pity for this woman, as she will never stop thinking about the baby she killed.

34 posted on 11/16/2005 5:07:59 AM PST by arizonarachel ("Whatever you do, work at it with all your heart, as working for the Lord, not for men," Col 3:23)
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To: Eepsy

Abortion for defect of the baby is the exception to the rule.

Most of them are done for the reasons of "I wasn't quite ready yet to be a mommy."


36 posted on 11/16/2005 5:08:36 AM PST by Mr. Brightside
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To: Eepsy
To know now that our son would be retarded, perhaps profoundly, gives us the choice of not continuing the pregnancy. We don't want a life like that for our child,

No one has the right to make a subjective decision regarding the quality or usefulness of another persons life.

37 posted on 11/16/2005 5:09:30 AM PST by carlr
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To: Eepsy
Sad.....in all ways.

She's so sure prolifers wouldn't give a woman the right to grieve...

...trained personel do this everyday in crisis pregnancy centers around the world...

..let women grieve over aborted babies..... they even have grief counseling and name the baby who was aborted.

They also counsel these women to understand it is a baby....and hope they will not abort again and again....(as some women do)

But I also feel anger....this woman cannot justify killing an innocent baby...(& who knows if that test was 100% right!---many times the baby is born healthy & without the Down's, althought that is not an excuse to kill the child)...

This woman may have killed her only opportunity to have a child from her womb.

38 posted on 11/16/2005 5:11:33 AM PST by Guenevere
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To: Eepsy
But I'm quite certain that I made the right choice for the three of us.

So even she acknowledges that it was a human being she killed.

39 posted on 11/16/2005 5:12:06 AM PST by alisasny (Jerry Lewis on France rioting...."CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG!")
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To: Eepsy

Hey, Maria, glad the infanticide worked out for ya'.


40 posted on 11/16/2005 5:12:26 AM PST by RogueIsland
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To: Eepsy
The truth was, until I heard the word "abortion,'' it hadn't occurred to me that I was actually having one.

Denial isn't just a river in Egypt. This woman thinks she's having pangs of conscience now? Wait until someone, something, and/or God gets ahold of her conscience in a few years... When she's had time to rationalize away her baby's murder.

41 posted on 11/16/2005 5:14:29 AM PST by MortMan (Eschew Obfuscation)
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To: wolfcreek
"Raising children takes more energy than people in their 50's and 60's can muster."

That is absolute bunk. I work with people every day that are in their 50's, 60's and even 70's and raising children. A lot of them are grandparents, some are great-grandparents and some are foster parents. While it may be more challenging in some ways, most of these folks have more energy and commitment than the children's natural parents. In some cases it seems to keep them young and healthy. I myself was raised for the better part of 9 years by my great-grandmother and I wouldn't trade that part of my childhood for anything. Some of the older folks who are raising children are worth a dozen of their more youthul counterparts.

42 posted on 11/16/2005 5:14:38 AM PST by sweetliberty (Stupidity should make you sterile.)
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To: Eepsy
I'm sure pro-lifers don't give you the right to grieve for the baby you chose not to bring into the world (another euphemism, although avoiding the word "abortion'' doesn't take any sting out of the decision to have one). Only now do I understand how entirely personal the decision to terminate a pregnancy is and how wrong it feels to bring someone else's morality into the discussion.

Self-satisfied, self-absorbed broad playing God.

43 posted on 11/16/2005 5:16:31 AM PST by sauropod ("The love that dare not speak its' name has now become the love that won't shut the hell up.")
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To: Cricket24
One other thing...these tests aren't always correct.

They sure aren't - my best friend was told that the only way some number could be so high on one of those tests was if she was carrying multiples and they ALL had spina bifida. She had one perfect little girl.

44 posted on 11/16/2005 5:18:49 AM PST by nina0113
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To: Appalled but Not Surprised
The use of contraceptives is mortally sinful regardless of circumstances.

Based on what? What verse in the Bible says that?

45 posted on 11/16/2005 5:18:54 AM PST by sauropod ("The love that dare not speak its' name has now become the love that won't shut the hell up.")
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To: Day Kay
And yes, adultery is any sex outside the bonds of marriage.

No, that's promiscuity. God prohibits that also.

There is no need to distort the English language.

46 posted on 11/16/2005 5:20:25 AM PST by sauropod ("The love that dare not speak its' name has now become the love that won't shut the hell up.")
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To: Eepsy
To know now that our son would be retarded, perhaps profoundly, gives us the choice of not continuing the pregnancy. We don't want a life like that for our child.

I have worked for the last ten years at a Christian residential care facility for adults with mental disabilities. EVERY one of these men & women is precious in the eyes of God and the world would be lacking the fruits of their uniqueness had their parents made this same selfish "choice" 40 or 50 years ago.
I am almost numb with sorrow at the all too prevailing mindset illustrated by the author of this article.
May God have mercy on us all!

47 posted on 11/16/2005 5:20:44 AM PST by Knute (W- Yep, He's STILL the President!)
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To: Eepsy

This woman is an idiot.

I'm in my early forties and although there are many times the thought crosses my mind about how great it would be to have another baby, I won't get pregnant now, exactly because I don't know if my husband and I, or our marriage, are strong enough to deal with a down's syndrome baby, but I will not have an abortion.


48 posted on 11/16/2005 5:21:25 AM PST by proud American in Canada
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To: Abathar
Is it right to force these happy people to a life of suffering and financial ruin because of your beliefs?

They forced themselves to that life.

49 posted on 11/16/2005 5:21:47 AM PST by sauropod ("The love that dare not speak its' name has now become the love that won't shut the hell up.")
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To: LauraleeBraswell

Thank you for #23. It brought tears to my eyes. :)


50 posted on 11/16/2005 5:23:19 AM PST by proud American in Canada
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