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Illegal immigrant charged in fatal wreck (DWI, killed 18-yr-old in100mph head-on collision)
News 14 Carolina ^ | November 19, 2005 | Brittany Morehouse

Posted on 11/19/2005 6:18:24 AM PST by TaxRelief

CHARLOTTE, N.C. -- Authorities say an illegal immigrant was intoxicated Friday morning when his vehicle slammed into two others on Interstate 485.

Jorge Hernandez, 35, is accused of driving more than 100 mph on the wrong side of the highway. His Ford Expedition collided head on with another vehicle, police said.

"The crash last night was a severe impact," said Trooper Brian Huffstickler of the North Carolina Highway Patrol. "It was probably one of the worst crashes we've ever seen."

The driver of the other vehicle, 18-year-old Min Soon Chang, was killed. Hernandez was injured, as was Tasha Beth Thomas, who was driving a vehicle that the Expedition sideswiped after the head-on collision.

Hernandez is charged with driving while impaired, and other charges are pending. Authorities are still trying to find out whether he has a prior record.

"Whenever you're here illegally, it's very hard for us to maintain contact with the person after they're charged," Huffstickler said.

Chang was a freshman at the University of North Carolina at Charlotte.

"My family is just destroyed right now," said Amos Chang, Min's brother. "They're just sad, depressed. They were in denial, but they can start to accept that my brother has passed on."

Amos Chang said his own anger was intensified because Hernandez walked away from the crash that his brother could not.

Elizabeth Cho, a family friend, said Min was a caring person.

"I kind of saw him grow up. He always looked out for other people and showed concern for other people," Cho said. "My husband and I were just saying how sad it is to lose such a nice, young kid because he can do so many things in our future in this world."

U.S. Rep. Sue Myrick, R-N.C., is working on legislation that would strengthen penalties against illegal immigrants who are convicted of DWI. She became vocal about the issue when Scott Gardner, a Gaston County teacher, was killed in July by an illegal immigrant who was driving drunk.

On Friday, she commented on "another bright young life lost."

"I hope that this -- as far as our committees are concerned -- will make a difference," Myrick said. "This is just another example of why we need the legislation."

Police said that Hernandez was driving for almost 20 miles on the wrong side of I-485.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: aliencrimes; aliens; amnesty; border; bush; drunkdriving; guestworker; illegal; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; ncpolitics; presidentbush
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To: GottaLuvAkitas1

So what do you propose should be done with the driver of the Explorer? Should he be shot on sight?


51 posted on 11/19/2005 7:24:02 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: texasbluebell

"Why are US citizens being given the short end of the stick here?"

Because we take it!
Groups like the ACLU and other wacko groups know many people don't even know who our VP is for crying out loud; why would anyone know about a few illegals law suit? More importantly it is our fault.

Here is a good link to keep you updated on these sort of things. The facts scared me into action.
www.fairus.org


52 posted on 11/19/2005 7:26:12 AM PST by GottaLuvAkitas1 (Ronald Reagan is the TRUE "Father Of Our Country".)
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To: texasbluebell
Just as WE have no rights whatsoever in any other country when we travel!

My God, have some coffee. If you enter Russia (illegally), and flatten someone with your Lada, whose law applies?

53 posted on 11/19/2005 7:28:46 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: TaxRelief
Felony immigrants should be exported back to their home country, but people who commit manslaughter on the road, felony immigrants or not, should do hard time busting rocks.
54 posted on 11/19/2005 7:30:10 AM PST by PokeyJoe (What exactly is cranberry jello?)
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To: martin_fierro

I'll bet more US citizens have been killed by illegal aliens since 9/11 than died in 9/11.

I doubt he'll do a danm thing about it - other than push for a new "uninvited guest" worker amnesty program.

This tragedy isn't even a blip on the radar screens of those responsible for our border security.


55 posted on 11/19/2005 7:30:17 AM PST by WayneM (Remember; "Saturday people first. Sunday people next.")
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To: TaxRelief

 

If I were an illegal alien I would try to be as invisible as possible. These imported desperadoes don't give a crap. Their inhibitions go to hell when they get liquored up.

56 posted on 11/19/2005 7:30:21 AM PST by dennisw (You shouldn't let other people get your kicks for you - Bob Dylan)
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To: freekitty

"How does an illegal alien afford a Ford Expedition?"

Not paying federal income tax
Not paying state income tax
Not paying social security
Not having medical insurance
Not having auto insurance

Getting free medical care
Getting food stamps
Getting welfare
Getting free legal advice
Getting housing subsidies

Your tax dollars at work!!!!!


57 posted on 11/19/2005 7:32:28 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: texasbluebell
What a travesty that was/is.

The real travesty was that he was sued while in prison and basically not allowed to defend himself.

58 posted on 11/19/2005 7:33:02 AM PST by raybbr
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To: 1rudeboy
"What should apply then"?

Oh, the 14th Amendment of the Constitution applies to them. Jackpot! They use and abuse it with their Anchor Babies.

Strange how they embrace our Constitution and laws when it benefits them...go figure.

sw

59 posted on 11/19/2005 7:33:05 AM PST by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: 1rudeboy

"So what do you propose should be done with the driver of the Explorer? Should he be shot on sight?"

No.
I would put panties on his head first- You know torture him a bit.

Seriously, you know I don't have the answers to that question. I do know that if this guy doesn't get good cousel then he can sue. What a freaking joke!


60 posted on 11/19/2005 7:33:41 AM PST by GottaLuvAkitas1 (Ronald Reagan is the TRUE "Father Of Our Country".)
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To: TaxRelief
"Whenever you're here illegally, it's very hard for us to maintain contact with the person after they're charged," Huffstickler said.

That's why they have things called "jails". Too bad we don't use them.

61 posted on 11/19/2005 7:34:19 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Democrats are guilty of whatever they scream the loudest about.)
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To: TaxRelief
Jorge Hernandez, 35, is accused of driving more than 100 mph on the wrong side of the highway. His Ford Expedition collided head on with another vehicle, police said.

The driver of the other vehicle, 18-year-old Min Soon Chang, was killed. 

I seems like an illegal alien Mexican killed a Chinese who may or may not be here legally. It used to be just whites and blacks and American Indians lived in North Carolina. Now you have Mexicans killing Chinese

62 posted on 11/19/2005 7:34:57 AM PST by dennisw (You shouldn't let other people get your kicks for you - Bob Dylan)
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To: GottaLuvAkitas1
If I do an illegal an injustice then maybe as a person who must follow our laws I should have to face a that, but the illegal should get nothing. That would take suing an American off the table.

How about tripling the usual punishment for illegal aliens convicted of crimes

63 posted on 11/19/2005 7:37:29 AM PST by dennisw (You shouldn't let other people get your kicks for you - Bob Dylan)
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To: GottaLuvAkitas1
I don't really have the answers, either. :)
But I do know that having two sets of laws, or (!) having one and some hybrid international law that applies here is simply impractical.
64 posted on 11/19/2005 7:40:35 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
So what do you propose should be done with the driver of the Explorer? Should he be shot on sight?

Great idea! He murdered someone. When you drive drunk at 100mph it's a certainty you'll kill, maim, cripple for life

Shoot on sight is better than most of your immigration ideas

65 posted on 11/19/2005 7:40:52 AM PST by dennisw (You shouldn't let other people get your kicks for you - Bob Dylan)
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To: dennisw

How about the Chinese guy? Should we shoot him too? He's got a funny name.


66 posted on 11/19/2005 7:41:51 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: clodkicker

BTTT


67 posted on 11/19/2005 7:41:57 AM PST by calrighty ( Watch " The Beeber Story ", written by al baby, produced by Hugh Series. Troops BTTT)
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To: TaxRelief

Is this guy in jail, or did they release him?


68 posted on 11/19/2005 7:43:30 AM PST by calrighty ( Watch " The Beeber Story ", written by al baby, produced by Hugh Series. Troops BTTT)
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To: martin_fierro
So ... ¿whatcha gonna do about it, Jorge?

Well, it's kind of a secret. But if I tell you, will you promise not to laugh or start using the word "amnesty". "Amnesty" is a very very bad word and could never be applied by decent Americans to anything I might do about the sufferings of our undocumented American neigbors.
69 posted on 11/19/2005 7:47:18 AM PST by George W. Bush
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To: ladyjane

BTTT


70 posted on 11/19/2005 7:47:52 AM PST by calrighty ( Watch " The Beeber Story ", written by al baby, produced by Hugh Series. Troops BTTT)
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To: 1rudeboy
How about the Chinese guy? Should we shoot him too? He's got a funny name.

The illegal alien Mexican murderer needs to be executed then deported. This would be true justice. Driving drunk at 100mph, if he hadn't killed the Chinese guy he would have killed someone else, maybe family of four

But hey, you and GWBush and the country clubbers got your imported class of drunken serfs so what do you care?

71 posted on 11/19/2005 7:47:55 AM PST by dennisw (You shouldn't let other people get your kicks for you - Bob Dylan)
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To: 1rudeboy

"I don't really have the answers, either. :)
But I do know that having two sets of laws, or (!) having one and some hybrid international law that applies here is simply impractical."

The problem here is that you are confusing my answers of suing and other rights. Early in this discussion I answered someone post about MD illegal's filing a lawsuit about our ID restrictions.

Convict this guy the same as you would any other drunk driver, but he should not have the right to sue us if he is done wrong by the system. A redo may be in order, but take suing off the table.
In addition he should not be set free until that time; nor should any other illegal because we won't find them again until they break another law.


72 posted on 11/19/2005 7:48:13 AM PST by GottaLuvAkitas1 (Ronald Reagan is the TRUE "Father Of Our Country".)
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To: nuconvert
"Whenever you're here illegally, it's very hard for us to maintain contact with the person after they're charged," Huffstickler said.

Helloo?? What's wrong with this sentence??

Everything! I hope they keep this jerk incarcerated instead of granting bail.

Hernandez is charged with driving while impaired, and other charges are pending. Authorities are still trying to find out whether he has a prior record.

73 posted on 11/19/2005 7:48:42 AM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: dennisw

All my servants are legal, although admittedly sometimes I'll take the Aston Martin to Wal-Mart to watch the little people.


74 posted on 11/19/2005 7:50:49 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: George W. Bush
Remember, it's "Guest Worker Program". It will cost a few billion dollars a year, but no big deal. We'll just print some more greenbacks and everything will be fine. Now finish your Kool-Aid and get back to work.
75 posted on 11/19/2005 7:56:32 AM PST by Burf (We'll all be drinkin that free Bubble Up and eatin that Rainbow Stew.)
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To: 1rudeboy

"All my servants are legal, although admittedly sometimes I'll take the Aston Martin to Wal-Mart to watch the little people."

LOL!
Jack & Karen take pictures of their Thanksgiving feast and throw it down to the homeless people so they can feel good too.


76 posted on 11/19/2005 7:56:37 AM PST by GottaLuvAkitas1 (Ronald Reagan is the TRUE "Father Of Our Country".)
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To: DumpsterDiver

While many disagree as to whether illegals should be here, I'd think that most would or should agree that illegals who commit crimes definitely should not be here.

Every illegal arrested for any crime should not be granted bail due to their flight risk. They should remain incarcerated, do time for the crime and then be sent home. If we're not going to have real interior enforcement, they could at least deal with the aliens who commit crimes.


77 posted on 11/19/2005 7:58:42 AM PST by umgud (uncompassionate conservative)
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To: gubamyster

ping


78 posted on 11/19/2005 8:02:27 AM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: SMM48
How does an illegal alien afford a Ford Expedition?

I was wondering the same thing.

79 posted on 11/19/2005 8:04:49 AM PST by moonpie57 (Fred Howell McMurray, Jr. The man on my POW bracelet.)
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To: umgud

"Every illegal arrested for any crime should not be granted bail due to their flight risk. They should remain incarcerated, do time for the crime and then be sent home. If we're not going to have real interior enforcement, they could at least deal with the aliens who commit crimes."

I totally agree!

Plus why not make a separate holding place for them? They should they get the same things in our jails as a citizen would have?
I say:
we feed them, make them work for it.
we keep them somewhat safe from the others and make them work for it.
we give them a few things extra that they work for and that's that.

If we catch a person 2 or more times they go to another separate prison for LIFE!


80 posted on 11/19/2005 8:05:03 AM PST by GottaLuvAkitas1 (Ronald Reagan is the TRUE "Father Of Our Country".)
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To: SmoothTalker

I think your suggestion to send these articles to the President and Chertoff is excellent....these folks are so far within the Beltway, they literally haven't any idea at ALL of how things really are out here....


81 posted on 11/19/2005 8:13:34 AM PST by mo
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To: TaxRelief

This is the loophole anyone withe a Black Heart that wants to do Crime in this country. Clain that you are here Illegaly and the police will have to let you go.


82 posted on 11/19/2005 8:15:53 AM PST by MisouriMule (We will all soon reap what the ignorant are now sowing.)
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To: 1rudeboy

"So what do you propose should be done with the driver of the Explorer? Should he be shot on sight?"....our elected representatives, IF they weren't derelict on this issue, are supposed to provide the legislative direction (and ensure enforcement) to that issue.


83 posted on 11/19/2005 8:16:09 AM PST by mo
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To: TaxRelief
One of our brightest and best young citizens was killed by an illegal alien scumbag.

Why does Bush allow an invasion from another nation go unanswered. Mr. Bush, you are no Teddy Roosevelt. The destruction of our national sovereignty will be in the history books for generations to reflect on, and it is happening right now under GOP majorities. Please, folks, continue to demand that your Republican elected officials start acting like conservatives. If they are too liberal for you, ask them to join the RAT party.
84 posted on 11/19/2005 8:21:06 AM PST by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (Bush's #1 priority Africa. #2 priority appease Fox and Mexico . . . USA priority #64.)
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To: calrighty

He is in hospital and in police custody. He will go to jail, I'm sure.


85 posted on 11/19/2005 8:25:13 AM PST by TaxRelief ("Conservatives are cracking down!" -- Rush Limbaugh, October 13, 2005)
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To: billbears
You'd have to be insane, stupid, or severely severely drunk to drive that fast in a vehicle with such a high center of gravity.

I-485, which has just been built is designed to encourage the car to "hug the road". It's smooth and has a perfect road camber which has the unfortunate side effect of encouraging high speeds of travel when the road is less crowded.

86 posted on 11/19/2005 8:32:37 AM PST by TaxRelief ("Conservatives are cracking down!" -- Rush Limbaugh, October 13, 2005)
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To: George W. Bush

Just driv'in on the wrong side of the road that 'Merican's won't do.


87 posted on 11/19/2005 8:35:59 AM PST by Squat (Deport the illegals now! Protest your local Home Depot.)
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To: 1rudeboy
If you are not a citizen, [and] our constitution doesn't apply to you... what should apply, then?

International POW treatment standards.

88 posted on 11/19/2005 8:36:24 AM PST by TaxRelief ("Conservatives are cracking down!" -- Rush Limbaugh, October 13, 2005)
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To: 1rudeboy
Americans don't drive drunk?

Yes they do, and we have enough of them now and don't need to import any more.

89 posted on 11/19/2005 8:39:21 AM PST by metalurgist (Death to the democrats! They're almost the same as communists, they just move a little slower.)
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To: TaxRelief

Did the illegal even have insurance? So many do not!


90 posted on 11/19/2005 8:40:16 AM PST by Mamzelle (.)
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To: WayneM
I'll bet more US citizens have been killed by illegal aliens since 9/11 than died in 9/11.

We should hold demonstrations with "coffins of victims of illegal immigrant crime", the way "pacifists" hold demonstrations over Iraq. We should also keep count and make the press write news stories everytime the count hits 1000, 2000, 3000, etc.

Unfortunately, most of the press won't even attempt to identify whether or not the perpetrators are illegal or not.

91 posted on 11/19/2005 8:43:29 AM PST by TaxRelief ("Conservatives are cracking down!" -- Rush Limbaugh, October 13, 2005)
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To: TaxRelief
Here's an idea...find out who employs the illegal...and drag him into the light of day, or find some way to sue him. An Expedition is not a cheap vehicle...
92 posted on 11/19/2005 8:43:48 AM PST by Mamzelle (.)
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To: TaxRelief

Thaqnks. Pardon my paranoia, but they let almost all these thugs O/R.


93 posted on 11/19/2005 8:44:40 AM PST by calrighty ( Watch " The Beeber Story ", written by al baby, produced by Hugh Series. Troops BTTT)
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To: Mamzelle

Perhaps the owner of the vehicle can be held responsible?


94 posted on 11/19/2005 8:51:24 AM PST by TaxRelief ("Conservatives are cracking down!" -- Rush Limbaugh, October 13, 2005)
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To: TaxRelief

Must not have read closely enough...I had assumed the illegal owned the vehicle? They certainly own a lot of vehicles in my town--even the teens...


95 posted on 11/19/2005 8:53:27 AM PST by Mamzelle (.)
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To: TaxRelief

"It's very hard for us to maintain contact with the person after they're charged."Why not hold him w/o bail?I assume it would be easier to "maintain contact" if the perp were sitting in jail.Can't a person be denied bail if he/she is considered a flight risk?


96 posted on 11/19/2005 8:57:36 AM PST by Thombo2
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To: TaxRelief

"Whenever you're here illegally, it's very hard for us to maintain contact with the person after they're charged," Huffstickler said.

I think it's easy to stay in contact.....just throw them in jail and keep 'em there till deported! In my world, "deported" means dropped into the middle of some very lonely Mexican desert.


97 posted on 11/19/2005 9:05:58 AM PST by NRA1995 (When liberals speak I hear the Vonage music playing.....woo-hoo, woo-hoo-hoo....)
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To: Youngman442002
Got caught up in that BS back in 2001 in Denver...totalled my truck! All I learned was what a P.O.S. Allstate Insurance is after 18 years with them. Got treated like I was a criminal for the only accident I've ever been in where I suffered any kind of injury. What put it over the top was that it wasn't even my fault!

Statefarm is doing a lot better...
98 posted on 11/19/2005 9:07:06 AM PST by Issaquahking
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; A CA Guy; ...

ping


99 posted on 11/19/2005 9:14:05 AM PST by gubamyster
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To: TaxRelief

This would have NEVER have happened had he been issued a DL.


100 posted on 11/19/2005 9:15:09 AM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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