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Season Finale: Rome, Episode 12, Kalends of February 9PM EST---Legio XIII Forever!
HBO ^ | 20 NOV 2005 | dcbryan1

Posted on 11/20/2005 3:52:19 PM PST by DCBryan1

As a result of their arena exploits, Pullo and Vorenus have become heroes to the Roman rank and file, causing Caesar to reward those he normally would punish. Pullo's unexpected return to Vorenus' household is not appreciated by his former slave Eirene. Caesar decides to overhaul the Senate by adding some unexpected new faces, to the chagrin of the old guard. And Servilia hurdles the final obstacle in her ambitious revenge scenario, at Niobe's expense.


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To: DCBryan1
In addition, I thought he died at the foot of Pompey's statute...kind of an ironic twist of history.

Yeah he did. Julius Caesar was a very complicated person which is probably why he is such a fascinating historical character.

I'm curious if Julius Caesar really cared for Pompey and others that he had defeated or just felt that having old enemies around and subdued was beneficial to legitimizing his power.

121 posted on 11/20/2005 7:05:46 PM PST by JeffAtlanta
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To: marajade
She should have told him the truth. Because she lied, she is a whore.
122 posted on 11/20/2005 7:06:36 PM PST by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: DCBryan1

I thought Vorenus would deal with his wife the same way Pullo dealt with his slaves husband.


123 posted on 11/20/2005 7:07:06 PM PST by Rosemont
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To: Pukin Dog

I disagree.


124 posted on 11/20/2005 7:07:35 PM PST by sabe@q.com (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: Rosemont
Octavian looks a little too much like Justin Timberlake to be a warrior though.

Yeah he was wise enough to realize that he was not meant to be a warrior. Octavian/Augustus has always been my favorite historical character. It's amazing how savvy the man was.

125 posted on 11/20/2005 7:07:39 PM PST by JeffAtlanta
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To: DCBryan1

Suetonius records that an account of Caesar's final words was something like "You too, my child?"


126 posted on 11/20/2005 7:07:42 PM PST by Skywalk (Transdimensional Jihad!)
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To: marajade
Why not tell the truth, and let the chips fall where they may? (yeah, I know its a tv show)If her excuse is so plausible, why didn't she use it? Good riddance. I will miss her breasts, though.
127 posted on 11/20/2005 7:09:06 PM PST by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: DCBryan1

Good thread, this.


128 posted on 11/20/2005 7:09:24 PM PST by rintense
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To: jmc1969
There won't be any major departures from history. Octavian will become the first Emporer, Brutus will commit suicide at Phillipi, Servilla will die of old age, Atia will die of natural causes while Octavian is Consul, etc etc.

The interesting characters in the show have always been Pullo, Vorenus and those that surround them because their fates are unknown.

129 posted on 11/20/2005 7:09:51 PM PST by Melas (What!? Read or learn something? Why would anyone do that, when they can just go on being stupid)
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To: rintense
A nice break from politics.
130 posted on 11/20/2005 7:10:06 PM PST by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: rintense
Good thread, this.

ROFLMAO!

Got anymore?

131 posted on 11/20/2005 7:10:09 PM PST by DCBryan1
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To: Melas
Atia will die of natural causes

...like excessive iron poisoning?

132 posted on 11/20/2005 7:11:16 PM PST by DCBryan1
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To: Melas
Hush! Not everyone reads, you know!
133 posted on 11/20/2005 7:11:25 PM PST by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Pukin Dog
Why not tell the truth, and let the chips fall where they may? (yeah, I know its a tv show)If her excuse is so plausible, why didn't she use it? Good riddance.

It's not as simple as all that. The child's father was still alive at the time. He probably would have been killed by the enraged husband.

Also, the welfare of the child was a concern to the mother. Lucius is a good man, but he is still a product of his time. The wife even had to go so far as tell him the the child was blameless.

134 posted on 11/20/2005 7:11:56 PM PST by JeffAtlanta
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To: DCBryan1

Good, freeper thread made by true conservatives.


135 posted on 11/20/2005 7:15:39 PM PST by rintense
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To: JeffAtlanta

I wonder if Pullo will ever tell Vorenus he knew about it, and that he killed little Lucius' father.


136 posted on 11/20/2005 7:17:00 PM PST by rintense
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To: JeffAtlanta
the welfare of the child was a concern to the mother

If that were true, she would not have killed herself and left him parentless.

Yes, yes, I know it's just a show, but what kind of mother leaves her children in such a way?

And Vorenus will probably latch on to the boy next season, as he is the last born of his wife, whom he loved very much.

137 posted on 11/20/2005 7:17:34 PM PST by teenyelliott (Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
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To: rintense
I wonder if Pullo will ever tell Vorenus he knew about it, and that he killed little Lucius' father.

I wonder if the slave already told him.

138 posted on 11/20/2005 7:17:57 PM PST by JeffAtlanta
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To: DCBryan1; Bloody Sam Roberts
They shouldn't have killed Niobe...hope she appears with a bandage on her head in 2007

One can hope.

Poor Vorenus. He would have forgiven her, and understood the circumstances, I think, because he loved her so much.

And now his love is gone, and Pullo walks off holding the hand of the one he loves.

Dammit, can't they let them both be happy at the same time???

I am just so sad for Vorenus.

139 posted on 11/20/2005 7:19:40 PM PST by teenyelliott (Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
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To: rintense
Good thread, this

Very funny!

140 posted on 11/20/2005 7:20:10 PM PST by teenyelliott (Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
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