Skip to comments.Season Finale: Rome, Episode 12, Kalends of February 9PM EST---Legio XIII Forever!
Posted on 11/20/2005 3:52:19 PM PST by DCBryan1
As a result of their arena exploits, Pullo and Vorenus have become heroes to the Roman rank and file, causing Caesar to reward those he normally would punish. Pullo's unexpected return to Vorenus' household is not appreciated by his former slave Eirene. Caesar decides to overhaul the Senate by adding some unexpected new faces, to the chagrin of the old guard. And Servilia hurdles the final obstacle in her ambitious revenge scenario, at Niobe's expense.
RE: "Et Tu brute?"...thanks...didn't know that.
You never know what the writers have cooked up. hehe
my pleasure...what an ending though! I didn't foresee Niobe killing herself though....
They shouldn't have killed Niobe...hope she appears with a bandage on her head in 2007.
Oh I can't wait either. The look on Octavian's face was pure hatred. Did you notice how Antony backed out of the forum, without turning his back? Wouldn't surprise me to see Vorenus team up with Antony (who Vorneus pledged his loyalty to) and Pullo with Octavian. Still shocked at the Niobe jump.
"It sure beat the season finale of battlestar galactica season 2."
I could be wrong but I think we've only seen half of season 2 of BSG.
BSG is scifi fantasy. Rome is drama. Kinda hard to compare the two.
I'm still majorly bummed that Moore killed off Crashdown. I'm hoping Crashdown is a cylon.
I'm kinda upset that HBO didn't have a "to be continued", or something equivalent.
Anything is possible! Pullo had brain surgery and lived.
Et tu Brutus?
While "et tu Brute" may have been coined by Shakespeare, it is very close to what is accepted as Julius Caesar's last words.
Suetonius, a Roman writer, recorded Caesar's last words as "Even you, my child" which is very close to "et tu Brute" - "And you Brutus".
The money had stopped coming... she didn't know he was still alive.
Heartily disagree....she truely thought her husband was dead and moved on....now had she known he was alive, I would agree with you.
Octavian and Antony have been my favorite characters. Octavian is wickedly clever and will know how to deal with her.
In addition, I thought he died at the foot of Pompey's statute...kind of an ironic twist of history.
LIke he dealt with his sister....he he...had to throw that one in.
" Octavian is wickedly clever and will know how to deal with her."
Octavian looks a little too much like Justin Timberlake to be a warrior though.
Yeah he did. Julius Caesar was a very complicated person which is probably why he is such a fascinating historical character.
I'm curious if Julius Caesar really cared for Pompey and others that he had defeated or just felt that having old enemies around and subdued was beneficial to legitimizing his power.
I thought Vorenus would deal with his wife the same way Pullo dealt with his slaves husband.
Yeah he was wise enough to realize that he was not meant to be a warrior. Octavian/Augustus has always been my favorite historical character. It's amazing how savvy the man was.
Suetonius records that an account of Caesar's final words was something like "You too, my child?"
Good thread, this.
The interesting characters in the show have always been Pullo, Vorenus and those that surround them because their fates are unknown.
...like excessive iron poisoning?
It's not as simple as all that. The child's father was still alive at the time. He probably would have been killed by the enraged husband.
Also, the welfare of the child was a concern to the mother. Lucius is a good man, but he is still a product of his time. The wife even had to go so far as tell him the the child was blameless.
Good, freeper thread made by true conservatives.
I wonder if Pullo will ever tell Vorenus he knew about it, and that he killed little Lucius' father.
If that were true, she would not have killed herself and left him parentless.
Yes, yes, I know it's just a show, but what kind of mother leaves her children in such a way?
And Vorenus will probably latch on to the boy next season, as he is the last born of his wife, whom he loved very much.
I wonder if the slave already told him.
One can hope.
Poor Vorenus. He would have forgiven her, and understood the circumstances, I think, because he loved her so much.
And now his love is gone, and Pullo walks off holding the hand of the one he loves.
Dammit, can't they let them both be happy at the same time???
I am just so sad for Vorenus.
Gotta go let the pets in!
As far as she knows, her husband is still a senator of Rome - he would have been well taken care of. Sensibilities were different during that time and wives were replaceable.
And by her worrying about the welfare of the child, I didn't mean his emotional well being but his very life.
Did Octavian tell Octavia that he and Pullo killed the Evander? I can't remember. Octavian, the master thinker he is, now knows Servilla used his sister for information to damn his family. Servilla is screwed, assuming they take a brief detour from history.
Nope, she lives a long time. Octavian will kill his political enemies, but he will spare Servilla and she'll die of old age. I'm starting to think that too many Freepers slept through history.
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Nope, it's just that we are aware that some pretty significant historical liberties have already been taken.
Yeah, he did tell Octavia that he tortured and killed a man. It is unclear if Octavian is aware that Servilla used this information to help the senators kill Julius Caesar.
None of the historical liberties have been major like a historical character outliving history. So far, everyone has died pretty much right on schedule. I have no doubts that will continue.
I have to wonder what sort of mindset that Vorenus will be in when (and if) the series continues. He was always very loyal to the Republic and his sense of morality may make him sympathetic to the restoration of the republic.
It will also be interesting to see if Vorenus hold any ill will toward Pullo or Octavian for their actions. I know that they were trying to help him but Vorenus is a complicated man and someone else impregnating your wife can confuse a man.