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Season Finale: Rome, Episode 12, Kalends of February 9PM EST---Legio XIII Forever!
HBO ^ | 20 NOV 2005 | dcbryan1

Posted on 11/20/2005 3:52:19 PM PST by DCBryan1

As a result of their arena exploits, Pullo and Vorenus have become heroes to the Roman rank and file, causing Caesar to reward those he normally would punish. Pullo's unexpected return to Vorenus' household is not appreciated by his former slave Eirene. Caesar decides to overhaul the Senate by adding some unexpected new faces, to the chagrin of the old guard. And Servilia hurdles the final obstacle in her ambitious revenge scenario, at Niobe's expense.


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To: teenyelliott; rintense; All
Well, Im off to bed...its a short week in the market. I will keep you guys/gals up to date on developments. I really enjoyed being on FR tonight with conservatives.

Gotta go let the pets in!

Goodnight!

141 posted on 11/20/2005 7:20:20 PM PST by DCBryan1
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To: teenyelliott
If that were true, she would not have killed herself and left him parentless.

As far as she knows, her husband is still a senator of Rome - he would have been well taken care of. Sensibilities were different during that time and wives were replaceable.

And by her worrying about the welfare of the child, I didn't mean his emotional well being but his very life.

142 posted on 11/20/2005 7:20:34 PM PST by JeffAtlanta
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To: JeffAtlanta

Did Octavian tell Octavia that he and Pullo killed the Evander? I can't remember. Octavian, the master thinker he is, now knows Servilla used his sister for information to damn his family. Servilla is screwed, assuming they take a brief detour from history.


143 posted on 11/20/2005 7:21:51 PM PST by rintense
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To: DCBryan1

Nope, she lives a long time. Octavian will kill his political enemies, but he will spare Servilla and she'll die of old age. I'm starting to think that too many Freepers slept through history.


144 posted on 11/20/2005 7:23:40 PM PST by Melas (What!? Read or learn something? Why would anyone do that, when they can just go on being stupid)
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To: DCBryan1
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145 posted on 11/20/2005 7:25:12 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Down with Dhimmicrats! I last updated my FR profile on Wednesday, November 2, 2005.)
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To: Melas
Octavian will kill his political enemies, but he will spare Servilla and she'll die of old age. I'm starting to think that too many Freepers slept through history.

Nope, it's just that we are aware that some pretty significant historical liberties have already been taken.

146 posted on 11/20/2005 7:26:31 PM PST by JeffAtlanta
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To: rintense
Did Octavian tell Octavia that he and Pullo killed the Evander?

Yeah, he did tell Octavia that he tortured and killed a man. It is unclear if Octavian is aware that Servilla used this information to help the senators kill Julius Caesar.

147 posted on 11/20/2005 7:28:17 PM PST by JeffAtlanta
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To: JeffAtlanta

None of the historical liberties have been major like a historical character outliving history. So far, everyone has died pretty much right on schedule. I have no doubts that will continue.


148 posted on 11/20/2005 7:29:38 PM PST by Melas (What!? Read or learn something? Why would anyone do that, when they can just go on being stupid)
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To: JeffAtlanta
Oh it won't take much for Antony, Octavian, a grieving Vorenus, and a pissed off Pullo to put 2 and 2 together.
149 posted on 11/20/2005 7:30:49 PM PST by rintense
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To: rintense
Oh it won't take much for Antony, Octavian, a grieving Vorenus, and a pissed off Pullo to put 2 and 2 together.

I have to wonder what sort of mindset that Vorenus will be in when (and if) the series continues. He was always very loyal to the Republic and his sense of morality may make him sympathetic to the restoration of the republic.

It will also be interesting to see if Vorenus hold any ill will toward Pullo or Octavian for their actions. I know that they were trying to help him but Vorenus is a complicated man and someone else impregnating your wife can confuse a man.

150 posted on 11/20/2005 7:35:25 PM PST by JeffAtlanta
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To: eddie willers
Et tu Brutus?

I saw it in his eyes...waiting for him to say it.

I was yelling at the TV like Sam Kinison..."Say it!...Saaaay it!"

151 posted on 11/20/2005 8:22:23 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸Ooooh...I think I over-medicated¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸)
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To: teenyelliott
He would have forgiven her, and understood the circumstances, I think, because he loved her so much.

I know he would have. My wife thought he was going to kill the boy...but I knew that he was only sitting there letting the steam vent off. If Naobi had only waited another minute or two the rage would have subsided.

But I guess that wasn't in the script. I wonder if he'll be allowed to keep his Senate seat now that his patriarch is dead.

152 posted on 11/20/2005 8:25:34 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸Ooooh...I think I over-medicated¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸)
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To: rintense
Servilla is screwed, assuming they take a brief detour from history.

I looked at the rage on Octavian's face and thought for sure he was going to kill the wench right there. But that would have been quite a turn from history.

153 posted on 11/20/2005 8:29:38 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸Ooooh...I think I over-medicated¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸)
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To: Rosemont

there's a lot of talk about sex, but the battles, amputations and other deaths are not too pleasant for many viewers.


154 posted on 11/20/2005 8:29:42 PM PST by bigsigh
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To: claudiustg
Only because Rome has a bigger budget than I, Claudius. As stories and characters go, I would say they're equally as entertaining. Both of them also appeal to the viewer's most delightfully vile nature, while at the same time, allowing you to say, "But this is history--it's good for me."
155 posted on 11/20/2005 8:34:17 PM PST by Uncle Vlad
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To: rintense

And Pullo will save him in battle.


156 posted on 11/20/2005 8:34:18 PM PST by bigsigh
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To: Melas

I would have know she died of old age, but I stopped just short of my PhD.


157 posted on 11/20/2005 8:41:07 PM PST by bigsigh
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To: bigsigh

and spelling too


158 posted on 11/20/2005 8:41:24 PM PST by bigsigh
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To: Pukin Dog
"She should have told him the truth. Because she lied, she is a whore."

About the time she got that bun in the oven she thought she was a widow. A widow who'd received none of hubby's pay in years. Bro-in-law (Babydaddy) was the only thing keeping her and the kids out of the street. She told her daughter to lie because she feared he may just kill them all. He prolly would have.

Glad Pullo got his little slave girl back.
159 posted on 11/20/2005 8:51:20 PM PST by myheroesareDeadandRegistered (Ann Coulter/ Mark Levin tag team in '08)
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To: Pukin Dog

Not just that, She used her own 13 year old daughter to hide what she did.


160 posted on 11/20/2005 8:58:18 PM PST by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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