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Harley Announces Recall of 13,400 Bikes
AP (Absolute Prevarication) ^ | 11/23/2005 | Staff

Posted on 11/23/2005 12:31:34 PM PST by Red Badger

MILWAUKEE (AP) -- Harley-Davidson Inc. issued a voluntary safety recall on 2006 model Dyna series motorcycles built between June 9 and Oct. 19 due to a transmission defect.

The company said late Tuesday the recall affects some 13,400 motorcycles and is expected to cost less than $5 million, which it will make reservations for in the fourth quarter.

Harley-Davidson also said it expects to meet its previously announced wholesale shipment target of 329,000 motorcycles for 2005.

The Milwaukee-based company said it will provide owners with free pickup and delivery and will make recall kits, which include three redesigned transmission components, available at dealerships starting the week of Dec. 12.

The defect may allow the motorcycles to go into a false neutral position even though the neutral indicator light is illuminated, it said.

"If that happens, the transmission could engage into first or second gear unexpectedly," Harley-Davidson spokesman Bob Klein said Wednesday.

Two accidents related to the problem were reported, but none resulted in injury, Klein said.

The defect resulted from a design flaw in the six-speed transmission, which replaced the five-speed on the Dyna to make for a smoother ride at highway speeds and increase fuel efficiency, Klein said.

The redesign also resulted in a change to the front forks, chassis and a wider rear tire.

Shipments of the 2006 Dyna had been delayed but resumed after a change to production, he said.

Harley-Davidson shares rose $1.20, or 2.2 percent, to $55.67 in Wednesday afternoon trading on the New York Stock Exchange, amid a general gain in market prices on optimism over consumer spending this holiday season.


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KEYWORDS: gearhead; harley; motorcycle; motorcycles; recall
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To: wireman

Oh man.
I could say something *really* mean but I won't....;))


151 posted on 11/25/2005 8:21:10 AM PST by Salamander (Cursed With Second Sight)
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To: Salamander

You should also read the Harley owners manual.
Gives no mention about the workings of the bike as far as matenance, spark plugs, tires, controls, oil, etc.

It tells you how to shave your goatee. What beer to drink. Exactly how to prop your legs in the air while riding, etc.


152 posted on 11/25/2005 8:21:14 AM PST by HOTTIEBOY (Maybe in your house. Not in mine.)
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To: HOTTIEBOY
Serious question here from a recently-returned-to-riding-after-25-years Honda VT750C24 Shadow Aero owner: what are your thoughts on the Honda ST1300 ABS, vice the bike you currently have?

I'm thinking of getting another bike next year (20 year-old daugther wants a sport bike). Need something to commute on (luggage, windshield a plus!) and want something with ABS. Like Honda's reputation for value.

My heart's desire is a 2006 Goldwing ABS with airbag! Yeah, I know its a couch on wheels!

153 posted on 11/25/2005 8:21:57 AM PST by ReaganCowboy (History books are written by winners.)
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To: Salamander

hahahahahaha, I just love it when people talk horsepower instead of torque.

No if NASA built bikes they would be terrible because they would be American made.


154 posted on 11/25/2005 8:24:37 AM PST by blarney
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To: ElTianti

"I can only stand being on it for a couple of hours"

I can't drive my car for more than a couple of hours without having to stop and strech my legs.


155 posted on 11/25/2005 8:24:38 AM PST by VRing
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To: HOTTIEBOY

I'll start by letting you know the more you talk about horsepower instead of torque the more it shows that you are really just blowing your own horn and just hoping someone will believe ya.


156 posted on 11/25/2005 8:26:40 AM PST by blarney
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To: HOTTIEBOY

Yet Harley riders always have "groupies" hanging around hoping for a slow ride on American Steel....and crotch rocket riders don't.

Go figger....:)


157 posted on 11/25/2005 8:29:24 AM PST by Salamander (Cursed With Second Sight)
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To: blarney

Okay...what if Wal*Mart made them?
Then they'd be Chinese.

No...wait...too much of a conundrum there.....


158 posted on 11/25/2005 8:31:43 AM PST by Salamander (Cursed With Second Sight)
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To: ReaganCowboy

The goldwing is an excellent bike, lots of power and great to cruize. They also did some changes to the geometry on them so they handle much better than they used to. I just worked on one and got to take it for a test ride, it truly is an excellent all around scoot. Don't know about the whole airbag thing but have been told it actually works. They also have airbags built into jackets now too, a friend of mine in Austrailia has a jacket like this. I don't know who makes them but found that an intriguiging idea.


159 posted on 11/25/2005 8:32:00 AM PST by blarney
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To: Salamander

I see get lots of women flashing me on my harley as opposed to when I am out on a rice bike and nobody even looks.

I never intended to badmouth the rice bikes but good lord these guys and their whole "go tell it on the mountain" attitude about their rice bikes is almost silly. If they as great as they claim they wouldn't have to talk so much about it.


160 posted on 11/25/2005 8:33:53 AM PST by blarney
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To: Salamander

Oh man, that made my head hurt just thinking about it.


161 posted on 11/25/2005 8:34:14 AM PST by blarney
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To: blarney
I got to take a 2005 Gold Wing on a 15-mile test ride (the day after I bought my 750). I purposely bought the 750, just to commute on (HOV priviledges) and didn't want to invest too much in case I discovered that I was too old and slow to be back on a bike after 25 years of not riding (I'm not).

As I tell my church friends, I now have the serious sin of coveting a Gold Wing. I declare it's actually easier to handle than my 750!

Anyway, I'm looking at getting a ST1300 ABS as an interim step up, splitting time on it with my daughter. She and I can ride together on the 750 and 1300, until she's really trained enough to absolutely have the 1300 solo; I can put the wife on the back of the 1300 on weekends, and see if I can get her hooked on riding two-up with me. Once that happens, hello Gold Wing!

That's the plan, anyway.

162 posted on 11/25/2005 8:40:21 AM PST by ReaganCowboy (History books are written by winners.)
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To: glasseye
"Poser".....What a strangely cute name for someone defending Harleys. Come to think of it, most Harley riders around here are "posers"

I use the name to make fun of people who whine about posers. If people want to own motorcycles just to look at them, good for them. When they get sick of looking at them, they will sell them to me for cheap. In the mean time, we pick up some people who will become serious riders and a whole lot of people that get angry when biker rights are trampled. I also wave, you know.

BMW and Vespa rider here. HD's are okay, just a little bulky in the hills.

I am the King of the slab. You have gone over to the dark side. I think I'm obligated to write mean stuff about people who don't buy American made products, but I find that to be a silly prejudice too. Where's the picture, damnit? Love them Vespas and Beemers

I want every motorcycle and I won't stop until I have them all. Ship me your bikes. You don't need them. Send them to me.

163 posted on 11/25/2005 8:40:29 AM PST by Poser (Waving and posing)
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To: Poser

how do you post a picture?


164 posted on 11/25/2005 8:45:32 AM PST by blarney
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To: blarney

hahahahaha, I just love it when people think that torque does anything on its own. Do you even know what exactly "torque" is? What "HP" is? The physics/engineering definition of these terms? And what they really mean to performance on the street?

Neither number by itself can tell you anything about the actual performance of the bike.


165 posted on 11/25/2005 8:47:12 AM PST by -YYZ-
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To: ReaganCowboy

I was very suprised at how nimble the goldwin was, and man did it have some nice takeoff and pickup. Glad to hear you decided you aren't too old to ride a bike. I think everyone should ride no matter what type of bike it is. I work on all of them and my shop treats all of them the same...except the ones we build. They are special ;)


166 posted on 11/25/2005 8:47:16 AM PST by blarney
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To: freepatriot32
buy a harley get the best ride a mile and walk the rest. :-)

When I returned from overseas in 1968, I bought myself a brand new Harley-Davidson Sportster XLCH (kick-start) as a reward to myself for staying alive.. I rode it from Ft. McArthur, CA, to Ft. Bliss Texas, to the Presidio of San Francisco, to Ft. Lewis, WA, to Ft. Knox, KY, to Ft. Sill, OK and back to Ft. Bliss, Tx. Some posts to others, more than once. I rode the "Sporty" regularly for the six years I was in the Army. The only problem I ever had was with head and tail light bulbs and smart remarks from the dim. I still have it and ride it after all these years. I only walked once when I ran out of gas in Wyoming. I didn't walk far. Never had to walk again.

1968 Yamaha's, Suzuki's and Honda's are now aluminum beverage cans or in a landfill. 1968 Harley's are their owners best memories.

167 posted on 11/25/2005 8:48:21 AM PST by elbucko
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To: Salamander

"Yet Harley riders always have "groupies" hanging around hoping for a slow ride on American Steel....and crotch rocket riders don't."

Yeah, but do you really want to take those toothless hillbillies for a ride? Just kidding.

Seriously, is that the best you can do. So you agree that the Harley really is a lifestyle accessory, then?


168 posted on 11/25/2005 8:48:28 AM PST by -YYZ-
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To: Red Badger
"If that happens, the transmission could engage into first or second gear unexpectedly," Harley-Davidson spokesman Bob Klein said Wednesday."

It sounds like they should go back to the old suicide shifter on the side of the tank, like they had in the mid 40's/ sarc.
169 posted on 11/25/2005 8:48:31 AM PST by Beagle8U (An "Earth First" kinda guy ( when we finish logging here, we'll start on the other planets.)
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To: blarney

"I never intended to badmouth the rice bikes but good lord these guys and their whole "go tell it on the mountain" attitude about their rice bikes is almost silly. If they as great as they claim they wouldn't have to talk so much about it."


Again, give me a break. The arrogance of Harley owners with their "rice" this and "rice" that and "real" bikes and so on is unbelievable. When you guys stop fantasizing that you've got a lock on what a "real" bike is, maybe you'll get some respect from the people who just ride well-made, good performing bikes because they enjoy it.


170 posted on 11/25/2005 8:50:50 AM PST by -YYZ-
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To: -YYZ-

duh, I wasn't the one bring up hp over and over again. It was your rice buddy. I will say it again though Hp is bragging rights but torque gets the job done. I just built a bike that lays out 125ft lbs of torque at 3200rpm. No reason to rev it up to 6000, 9000, 10000, or 12000 it gets the job done at 3200 rpms.

Rice bikes are much more efficient though. I had a cbrr600 in my shop until a couple weeks ago I had to fix up because the idiot was doing wheelies down the highway. I filled the bowls with gas started it up and it idled for almost 30minutes just on the fuel in the bowls. That was most impressive.


171 posted on 11/25/2005 8:50:57 AM PST by blarney
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To: blarney

Precisely.


We have the same attitude here.

Every flyer for every event held, whether it be a benefit ride or just some fun gathering includes the obligatory footnote

"Jap bike riders welcome too!"

Nobody picks at them when they come and for the most part, the ricers are polite and respectful.

Hubby started buidling radical choppers bikes and trikes down in FL decades ago and most of the bikes were Kaws.

He also drag-raced Jap bikes back then.
[and crashed at 140 mph wearing just a helmet and polyester shirt and dress pants]

His personal favorite cruising bike back then was a Yamaha Venture.

He switched over to Harleys years ago because people pay more for modified HDs than other bikes.

He's never looked back.

[except for that one time he brought home another Venture and expected me to ride it out in public with him]...LOL!






172 posted on 11/25/2005 8:51:43 AM PST by Salamander (Cursed With Second Sight)
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To: blarney

"duh, I wasn't the one bring up hp over and over again. It was your rice buddy. I will say it again though Hp is bragging rights but torque gets the job done. I just built a bike that lays out 125ft lbs of torque at 3200rpm. No reason to rev it up to 6000, 9000, 10000, or 12000 it gets the job done at 3200 rpms."


And so what? Is there something inherently great about trolling along at low rpms? It eludes me. Also, as I said, no production V-twin gets anywhere near that.


173 posted on 11/25/2005 8:55:06 AM PST by -YYZ-
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To: -YYZ-

Okay hotshot I will give you a bread go back and read where I badmouthed the rice bikes. I simply stated a fact they are better bikes and they are. You little rice boys are running around screaming " mines better, mines better c'mon everybody believe me mines better" not me. So show where I sat there and badmouthed the rice bikes since you want me to give you a break. I started out giving them their props on what they deserved to have props on. You guys are just so worried that nobody will think you bike is worth a crap you have to jump in here and start insulting one type and carrying on about it. The only arrogance I have seen is coming from you little rice boys. I guess if your bikes were actually as good as you think they are you wouldn't be on a thread about Harley's trying to badmouth them and talk about how much better yours is. Your actions speak volumes.


174 posted on 11/25/2005 8:55:16 AM PST by blarney
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To: -YYZ-

What exactly do you think rpms are? They are how fast your motor is spinning nothing else. Your question is kind of....well it's a question of ignorance. It doesn't matter how fast your motor is spinning it matters on how fast your bike is moving.

AIH and BIG DOG are production bikes and they are putting out numbers almost equal to that. So you are again wrong. Thanks for playing.


175 posted on 11/25/2005 8:58:35 AM PST by blarney
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To: -YYZ-

Since I'm one of those "toothless hillbillies" you'll find straddling a Harley rider, then no, I'm not into taking them for a ride, myself.

The Hog riders get the women.
It's more like basic, primitive evolution, really.
Survival of the fittest.

[and women would prefer to ride a legend]....:)


176 posted on 11/25/2005 8:59:45 AM PST by Salamander (Cursed With Second Sight)
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To: -YYZ-

The bosshoss is also a production motorcycle and I will put it up against absolutely any japanese or any other production bike out there on a straight track. In fact you can even supercharge and put nitro on those bikes and it will still smoke them naturally aspirated and it won't get over 3000rpms. So you do understand that lower rpms the less stress and wear there is on a motor right? You als know the lower rpms produce less heat right? The reason those jap bikes are made to rev as high as they do is so they can try and match the raw power of the vtwins.

I am starting to wonder if you know anything about motorcycles beyond what you have learned from gixxer.com.


177 posted on 11/25/2005 9:04:16 AM PST by blarney
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To: Salamander

Yup it's funny how Harley riders are willing to be inclusive of the metrics but somehow they are told that they have some kind of attitude while the metric riders are out there screaming at the top of their lungs how much better their bikes are, whereas people just aren't buying into it.

I have lots of people come in on the Metric Cruisers and the number one request is "Make it sound like a Harley". They then always follow it up with "I really wanted a Harley but couldn't afford it so I will ride this until I can".

Let's hear how much great those metrics are when the only thing it comes down to is what people want and what they are willing to pay for it. The Harleys are what people want and they are willing to pay more for it.


178 posted on 11/25/2005 9:08:27 AM PST by blarney
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To: Salamander

HaH, Great Post.


179 posted on 11/25/2005 9:09:21 AM PST by blarney
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To: Carbonsteel

My brother owned a Harley, and I owned a Yamaha. He would try to make me feel bad by saying, "Why don't you get yourself a real bike?"

My reply was always, "Because, I like riding my bike, not working on it."


180 posted on 11/25/2005 9:10:49 AM PST by Sensei Ern (Now, IB4Z! http://trss.blogspot.com/ "Cowards cut and run. Heroes never do!")
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To: blarney

Yup.
It's just like the "liberals" who really aren't "liberal" at all.

[must be why HD riders are mostly "conservatives"]..;))

Didn't Harley actually patent their sound?
Or try to, after everybody [and their dog] tried to imitate it?


181 posted on 11/25/2005 9:12:55 AM PST by Salamander (Cursed With Second Sight)
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To: HOTTIEBOY
I suppose that's why ricer companies like Yamaha are advertising custom bikes that look like Harleys. If you can't ride the best, the best you can do is look like you ride the best.
182 posted on 11/25/2005 9:13:56 AM PST by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: blarney

Facts is facts.

Underneath the thin veneer of sophistication and modernism, we're all barbarians on this bus....:)


183 posted on 11/25/2005 9:14:39 AM PST by Salamander (Cursed With Second Sight)
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To: billbears

Depressing, isn't it?


184 posted on 11/25/2005 9:16:35 AM PST by Salamander (Cursed With Second Sight)
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To: All
DESMO....


185 posted on 11/25/2005 9:17:05 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim (Now that taglines are cool, I refuse to have one.)
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To: HOTTIEBOY

actually most Harley owners are over 40, employed, educated with at least a coledge degree, and (gasp!) REPUBLICANS!

You really should save it. Just keep your two wheels down and save the venomn for those who call ANYONE who rides a motorcycle a "donorcycle."


186 posted on 11/25/2005 9:17:36 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Salamander

Yes they tried to patent their sound but if I remember correctly they couldn't. The inturn patented the head angles etc on them. Those patents ran out quite some time back though which is they companies like zippers, merch, s&s and so forth started building motors. You can even buy panhead and knuckleheads that are modern now. It's a pretty sweet deal.


187 posted on 11/25/2005 9:18:04 AM PST by blarney
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To: billbears

Problem is they don't even look like them yet. The chroming looks cheap on the Jap bikes and there is still too much plastic.


188 posted on 11/25/2005 9:19:03 AM PST by blarney
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To: Salamander

Hell yea, I know I am.


189 posted on 11/25/2005 9:19:23 AM PST by blarney
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To: Tijeras_Slim

heh, I rode a 99monster dark that looked a lot like that there. It was the best handling bike I have ever ridden. Oh gasp it was also a twin cylinder.


190 posted on 11/25/2005 9:21:27 AM PST by blarney
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To: Salamander

And what's interesting about the Yamaha commercial is its presentation. The first half I didn't realize I was watching a Yamaha commercial. One would think if they were so proud of their little bikes, and not trying to relate them to the Harley style, they would put the Yamaha name out there a little better.


191 posted on 11/25/2005 9:22:15 AM PST by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: blarney

Where to start. Your response is virtually incoherent, which I suppose is to be expected from your type. Everytime you throw out the word "rice" and terms like "litte rice boys" you're doing so in a pejorative sense, which I would call "badmouthing." Your disrespect for all Japanese bike owners comes through entirely clearly, so don't try to pretend otherwise.


192 posted on 11/25/2005 9:22:27 AM PST by -YYZ-
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To: blarney

If you notice that's why they don't show closeups of them. If you look at the commercial, they're quick flybys (usually from a distance).


193 posted on 11/25/2005 9:23:55 AM PST by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: blarney

Chicks dig it.

Trust me....;)


194 posted on 11/25/2005 9:24:00 AM PST by Salamander (Cursed With Second Sight)
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To: -YYZ-

I got enough response to know that the only person it's incoherent to is you. I would imagine that is because I am well aware of what I am talking about and you aren't. It's okay go do a wheelie and impress a 16yr old girl, it will make you feel better.


195 posted on 11/25/2005 9:24:11 AM PST by blarney
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To: blarney

That's a 620 Dark. I got rid of a Kawasaki Concours for it, wanted a lighter bike for commuting.


196 posted on 11/25/2005 9:24:34 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim (Now that taglines are cool, I refuse to have one.)
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To: TXBSAFH
Harley Davison is a mechandising company that as one of the product line makes overpriced motorcycles.

Well, I love my Honda ST-1100; it's my gofast bike.

And the only Harley catalog accessory I own is a keyring. It holds the key that starts my Harley.

Both are great bikes.

And if you're going to spread the ignorant rants about Harley-Davidsons, you might learn to spell it.

197 posted on 11/25/2005 9:25:02 AM PST by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: martin_fierro

I can't believe you haven't marshalled the faithful yet.


198 posted on 11/25/2005 9:26:27 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim (Now that taglines are cool, I refuse to have one.)
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To: blarney

"It doesn't matter how fast your motor is spinning it matters on how fast your bike is moving."

WTF is that sentence supposed to mean?

So you're putting down 130 ft-lbs at 3000 rpm. That's 71 HP. Respectable, to be sure. How long could you keep riding the bike wide open, I wonder, before it seized from overheating? What's the redline? How bad is the vibration on this big paint-shaker of yours?

And still none of these bikes could beat a decent 600 race replica in a drag race.

And as far as outfits like Big Dog goes, if they were producing anything other than the currently politically popular big American cruisers, I doubt if they'd ever get them past EPA regs.


199 posted on 11/25/2005 9:26:44 AM PST by -YYZ-
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To: blarney

Hubby knows all that stuff.
I ought to run in and pick his brain for facts and then run back here and post them so I can at least *appear* knowledgable too....;D

[For now, really, I just sit on the back and grin. I'll have my own ride this spring]...LOL!


200 posted on 11/25/2005 9:26:49 AM PST by Salamander (Cursed With Second Sight)
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