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A Shift in Political Landscape Seems To Favor McCain in '08
The New York Sun ^ | 11/28/05

Posted on 11/28/2005 10:15:28 AM PST by areafiftyone

Senator McCain of Arizona is emerging as an early favorite for the Republican presidential nomination in 2008 as a result of a shift in the issues dominating the American political landscape, according to political analysts.

Intensifying public concern about the war in Iraq, the prospect of protracted corruption trials in Washington, and renewed qualms among Republicans about federal spending are all putting wind into Mr. McCain's sails while setting back most of the senator's rivals for the nomination.

"If Iraq and foreign policy and national security and deficit spending are important issues, that will benefit people like McCain," the publisher of a leading political newsletter, Stuart Rothenberg, said.

A Republican political consultant with national campaign experience said looming decisions about when and how to withdraw American troops from Iraq should boost the prospects of Mr. McCain, a former Navy pilot who spent more than five years as a prisoner of war in Vietnam. The senator has vocally opposed calls for an immediate withdrawal from Iraq, but he has also clashed with the White House over a measure he sponsored to prohibit Americans from engaging in torture.

A former aide to the senator, Marshall Wittmann, also said he believes the stars are aligning for a McCain candidacy.

"My sense is there's a significant amount of momentum shifting to Mc-Cain within the Republican Party over the past few months," said Mr. Wittmann, who served as the senator's communications director for two years before quitting last year to join the centrist Democratic Leadership Council.

(Excerpt) Read more at nysun.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona
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1 posted on 11/28/2005 10:15:28 AM PST by areafiftyone
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To: areafiftyone

McCain won't be trusted by either Republicans nor Democrats.

He's burned both sides too often...


2 posted on 11/28/2005 10:16:36 AM PST by lOKKI (You can ignore reality until it bites you in the ass.)
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To: areafiftyone

A whole article without the word, "Maverick"? What's next, cats and dogs voting for McCain together? I think not.


3 posted on 11/28/2005 10:17:43 AM PST by rhombus
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To: areafiftyone; All
If it came between McCain and Giulaini, I would support McCain (area, you know this already, just need to say it again), only because McCain at least has a conservative voting record, and doesn't keep company with the sleazy characters Rudy the RINO does.

In any event, I would prefer Brownback, Allen, Pawlenty, and even Romney to those two Media Whores.

4 posted on 11/28/2005 10:17:58 AM PST by Clemenza (Ticking Away the Moments that Make up the Dog Day)
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To: areafiftyone

McCain vs. Hillary Clinton... The lesser of two evils is McCain... Either way its a blow to the conservative movement... Tom Delay in 2008! Now that would drive the liberals stark raging nuts!


5 posted on 11/28/2005 10:18:37 AM PST by BigTom85 (Proud Gun Owner and Member of NRA)
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To: areafiftyone

Being a favorite of the MSM is not going to get you nominated in the Republican party.


6 posted on 11/28/2005 10:18:42 AM PST by Semper Paratus
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To: areafiftyone

I would never vote for McCain under ANY circumstance. That includes Hillary.


7 posted on 11/28/2005 10:19:08 AM PST by Dan from Michigan ("What does a guy have to do to get fired around here?" - Darryl Rogers, former Lions Coach)
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To: areafiftyone
Yeah. "Maverick" in this case means liberal.

And there has been no massive shift in the political landscape. The only massive shift that has taken place is in the delusional brains of journalists.

8 posted on 11/28/2005 10:19:11 AM PST by Reactionary (Politics Isn't for Little Boys Who Want to Play Nice)
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To: All
"Senator McCain of Arizona is emerging as an early favorite for the Republican presidential nomination in 2008..."

Wishful thinking by the left.
9 posted on 11/28/2005 10:19:22 AM PST by j_k_l
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To: areafiftyone
A McCain/Rice ticket would be unstoppable (in the general election).
10 posted on 11/28/2005 10:19:53 AM PST by BikerNYC (Modernman should not have been banned.)
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To: rhombus

If he does start out as a front runner for the Republicans, all I can do is pray that he gets beat really bad after NH (all over again).


11 posted on 11/28/2005 10:19:57 AM PST by saveliberty (Conservativism - the commitment to live within your own means and to take care of yourself & family)
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To: j_k_l

For real! I know a place for them to shove that massive shift!


12 posted on 11/28/2005 10:20:47 AM PST by The Toll
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To: Clemenza
"If it came between McCain and Giulaini, I would support McCain"
I would not! I would write in the candidate of my choice and let the chips fall where they may.
13 posted on 11/28/2005 10:20:49 AM PST by Long Distance Rider
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To: areafiftyone

This is just an attempt by the MSM (who love McCain) to get him out in front of the potential Republican candidates for 2008. There was a lot of this McCain-push activity over the weekend.


14 posted on 11/28/2005 10:21:42 AM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Long Distance Rider

Seems like somebody in the MSM is really trying to build a fire for McCain.

Except that like Cindy Sheehan's book signing, I don't think any people are going to come to the party. . .


15 posted on 11/28/2005 10:22:00 AM PST by CondorFlight
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To: j_k_l
---""Senator McCain of Arizona is emerging as an early favorite for the Republican presidential nomination in 2008..."

Wishful thinking by the left."---

This just in: Zel Miller is becoming the front-runner for the Democratic presidential nomination in 20008, due to the shifting political landscape.

Really, it might as well read that way.....
16 posted on 11/28/2005 10:22:10 AM PST by TitansAFC ("'C' is for 'cookie,' that's good enough for me" -- C. Monster)
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To: BigTom85
"McCain vs. Hillary Clinton... The lesser of two evils is McCain..."

Evil is evil.
17 posted on 11/28/2005 10:22:18 AM PST by j_k_l
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To: areafiftyone

Has the New York Sun gone nuts? Do they suddenly think they are the New York Times?

Are we going to fix the "corruption" charges by nominating one of the Keating Five, who made a deal with clinton to get the DEA off his wife's back for stealing illegal drugs?

Are we going to fix the "war problems" by nominating a maniac who was nicknamed "Ace" by his fellow pilots because he managed to crash five of his own planes?

Are we going to satisfy the conservative base by electing the author of the "no political speech allowed except by certified members of the MSM" bill?

Are we going to satisfy the religious base by nominating a man who dumped his wife, who waited for him loyally to return from Vietnam, in favor of a rich woman who could bankroll his political career?

Are we going to nominate the man who chaired the POW-MIA committee and ensured that nothing would be done for these lost comrades because he wanted to make a pile of graft from the Communist North Vietnamese government?

I don't think so. I could say a lot more, if I thought this was likely to move forward. But I don't think the Republican Party is as suicidal as this, yet.

But I'm deeply disappointed in the Sun for running this tripe.


18 posted on 11/28/2005 10:22:25 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: areafiftyone
I think they should get that guy (x-Senator Fred Thompson)from the TV show to run. Everybody likes him.
19 posted on 11/28/2005 10:22:41 AM PST by babygene (Viable after 87 trimesters)
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To: Dan from Michigan

I agree with you.


20 posted on 11/28/2005 10:22:46 AM PST by saveliberty (Conservativism - the commitment to live within your own means and to take care of yourself & family)
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To: saveliberty
If he does start out as a front runner for the Republicans, all I can do is pray that he gets beat really bad after NH (all over again).

Watch out. NH supported him over Bush in 2000.

21 posted on 11/28/2005 10:23:11 AM PST by rhombus
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To: TitansAFC

The point the article seems to make is that the climate has changed and it may favor McCain. There's more discussion of this article here:
http://www.themoderatevoice.com/posts/1133190976.shtml


22 posted on 11/28/2005 10:24:00 AM PST by jraven
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To: areafiftyone

A McCain nomination would be a win/win situation for the democrats, so why else would these democrat sympathizers be excited about the prospects. It would require republicans to vote for McCain and they certainly aren't there now.


23 posted on 11/28/2005 10:24:05 AM PST by billhilly (If you're lurking here from DU (Democrats unglued), I trust this post will make you sick.)
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To: Dan from Michigan
I would never vote for McCain under ANY circumstance.

I am leaning toward adopting that position, mostly because I think McVain is a media whore and also is more than a few sandwiches shy of a picnic. Would you care to share your reasoning?

24 posted on 11/28/2005 10:24:23 AM PST by RebelBanker (If you can't do something smart, do something right.)
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Still far too early to predict who will be the Republican front runner.


25 posted on 11/28/2005 10:24:59 AM PST by Republic_of_Secession.
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To: areafiftyone
Am I the only one who is not sold on the repeated mantra by media outlets "growing dissatisfaction over the war in Iraq"? All this is based on anecdotal reports such as polls. And each of these polls survey between 500-1000 people. Hardly a consensus of a voting public that consists of around 100 Million. Not to mention that these polls are usually slanted. In the end it is the pundits, experts and politicians who are left scratching their head when an actual election always shatters the conventional wisdom.
26 posted on 11/28/2005 10:25:53 AM PST by slowhand520
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To: areafiftyone

27 posted on 11/28/2005 10:25:54 AM PST by oldleft
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To: rhombus

Yes. But remember that W was supposed to be a weak candidate and even his own brother (hard to forgive Jeb for that) commented that he didn't think that W was ready to be President.

Also, I do see that NH is no longer the bellwether of mainstream America. It's a different place than it was 20 years ago.


28 posted on 11/28/2005 10:25:55 AM PST by saveliberty (Conservativism - the commitment to live within your own means and to take care of yourself & family)
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To: areafiftyone

What a BS.


29 posted on 11/28/2005 10:26:13 AM PST by VU4G10 (Have You Forgotten?)
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To: Dan from Michigan
I fear we may never see a "conservative" as president ever again, we are turning left super fast.

I am afraid GW Bush is as conservative as we will get.

30 posted on 11/28/2005 10:26:18 AM PST by Battle Hymn of the Republic
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To: billhilly
"...It would require republicans to vote for McCain..."

Republicans might vote for him. Conservatives will not. His opponent might pitch an electoral college shutout.
31 posted on 11/28/2005 10:27:19 AM PST by j_k_l
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To: Republic_of_Secession.

I'll support McCain when he gives up the steel ball bearings he rolls around in his hand.


32 posted on 11/28/2005 10:27:29 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Then there was the strawberries. That's where I finally had them...)
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To: Long Distance Rider

"If it came between McCain and Giulaini, I would support McCain"
I would not! I would write in the candidate of my choice and let the chips fall where they may.


Same here, I will NEVER vote for McCain under ANY circumstances!


33 posted on 11/28/2005 10:28:06 AM PST by sheana
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To: saveliberty
Also, I do see that NH is no longer the bellwether of mainstream America. It's a different place than it was 20 years ago.

You are very correct there... NH went for Kerry in 2004 - too many Massachusetts mommies moving north for bigger houses and then voting with the teachers' unions.

34 posted on 11/28/2005 10:28:16 AM PST by rhombus
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To: Semper Paratus

The MSM will turn on McCain if he get's the Pubbie nomination.

My tagline says it all....


35 posted on 11/28/2005 10:29:23 AM PST by rightinthemiddle (#1 Rule in Dealing with the Media, Democrats and Terrorists: Can't Please 'Em, so Don't Appease 'Em.)
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To: areafiftyone

Destruction of the First Amendment in McCain-Feingold.

The prevention of any cohercive techniques in extracting information from terrorists.

A long track record of opposition to the Second Amendment.

Support for Illegal Invaders and their rights.

McCain may sound like the Second Coming - but only if you live in Massachusetts, New Jersey or Kalipornia - and your not a real Republican.

One would expect such praise from the media for such a media sycophant.


36 posted on 11/28/2005 10:29:33 AM PST by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: RebelBanker
Why McStain would never get my vote
1. Anti-2nd Amendment
2. McCain/Feingold - a Campaign finance nightmare
3. Temper
4. Wanted to ban ultimate fighting
5. Big government in smoking matters
6. Global Warming
7. Not a friend of tort reform. The only positives to McCain is the budget and abortion, but he's shown himself to be sold out to the highest bidder, so he'll sell out there too. He was once pro-2a as well before 2000.
37 posted on 11/28/2005 10:30:39 AM PST by Dan from Michigan ("What does a guy have to do to get fired around here?" - Darryl Rogers, former Lions Coach)
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To: All
I would rather vote for this little nut job.


38 posted on 11/28/2005 10:31:11 AM PST by j_k_l
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To: rhombus

Too much time with Jeanne Shaheen.

Let's go back to the convention being the means of selecting a Presidential candidate.


39 posted on 11/28/2005 10:31:19 AM PST by saveliberty (Conservativism - the commitment to live within your own means and to take care of yourself & family)
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To: areafiftyone

I get the feeling that I am going to feel very abivalent about the GOP nominee. That is until they are lined up and compared to Hillary and I will probably be a fervent supporter.


40 posted on 11/28/2005 10:31:43 AM PST by KC_Conspirator (This space outsourced to India)
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To: j_k_l

Ew. Well you go ahead and vote for the little general.


41 posted on 11/28/2005 10:31:48 AM PST by saveliberty (Conservativism - the commitment to live within your own means and to take care of yourself & family)
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To: TitansAFC

Zell is indestructible, but even he may not last until 20008 ;-)


42 posted on 11/28/2005 10:32:43 AM PST by saveliberty (Conservativism - the commitment to live within your own means and to take care of yourself & family)
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To: areafiftyone

Maricopa County Republicans Condemn McCain for Straying from the GOP Reservation

By Dennis Durband
July 8, 2005

By a vote of 17-3, with two abstentions, the Maricopa County Republican Party’s governing board has voted to express its dissatisfaction with the representation of senior U.S. Senator John McCain.

The Executive Guidance Committee passed an amended resolution during its monthly meeting Thursday night. The initial resolution, introduced by Legislative District 11 Chairman Rob Haney, called for a “Resolution of Censure and Shame Over the Representation of John McCain.” Phil Mason introduced an amended resolution that won passage.

Motions to table the resolution and to withhold release of the action for 30 days until McCain could respond were defeated.

Representatives of both Arizona senators, McCain and Jon Kyl, were in attendance to oppose the resolution.

The resolution finds fault with McCain over five issues:

McCain has attacked First and Second Amendment rights through his support for Campaign Finance Reform and his legislation attempt to close down gun shows;

McCain has done great harm to our national defense and economy by twice voting against drilling in the Alaskan Oil Reserves;

McCain is opposed to the amending the U.S. Constitution to define marriage as the union of one man and one woman as stated in the proposed federal marriage amendment act;

McCain has allied with the liberal Democrat Senator Ted Kennedy to introduce another immigration amnesty program for illegal aliens, ignoring the vast majority of Arizona residents to take strong action to stop the invasion of the United States; and

McCain led the derailment of the Republican strategy to end the filibuster of presidential judicial and ambassador appointments, undermining Republican leadership. The Executive Guidance Committee supports the position of both President Bush and Senate President Bill Frist to end the filibuster of nominees.

The EGC then resolved to “express our extreme displeasure with our own Arizona senior Senator John McCain for undermining the conservative mandate of the 2004 election, and state that we condemn John McCain’s betrayal of trust Republican voters placed in him. We further state that only under extremely ‘extraordinary circumstances’ will we support the candidacy of John McCain for President of the United States. We urge other Republican organizations to likewise convey to Senator McCain that they will not support his candidacy.”

Maricopa County GOP becomes the third Republican organization this summer to pass a resolution against the political betrayal of Senator McCain. Last month, the Arizona Republican Assembly voted unanimously to censure McCain, and the GOP Legislative District 11 voted 32-18 to do likewise.


43 posted on 11/28/2005 10:32:44 AM PST by Spiff ("They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name." - Gael Murphy, Code Pink leader)
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To: areafiftyone

Has moveon.org endorsed him yet?


44 posted on 11/28/2005 10:32:59 AM PST by polymuser (Losing, like flooding, brings rats to the surface.)
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To: Dan from Michigan

You left out that he was the head dwarf?


45 posted on 11/28/2005 10:33:30 AM PST by saveliberty (Conservativism - the commitment to live within your own means and to take care of yourself & family)
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To: saveliberty
Let's go back to the convention being the means of selecting a Presidential candidate.

Not a bad idea. If they are going to stay with primaries - Do NOT let people who are not in the party vote. What right does anyone who isn't a member of a party have to decide who is the party's candidate? None. So many Democrats "crossed over" to vote for McCain - just to try and stop Bush, it was a joke.

46 posted on 11/28/2005 10:33:32 AM PST by rhombus
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To: oldleft

She didn't earn it yet. She's good, but let her earn it.


47 posted on 11/28/2005 10:33:57 AM PST by saveliberty (Conservativism - the commitment to live within your own means and to take care of yourself & family)
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To: areafiftyone

I do not think that McCain would be any less conservative than Bush, to tell you the truth, but this article is silly. Clearly, McCain is a media darling, and that is all there is to this. The Miers debacle, and the growing CONSERVATIVE anger toward the White House over spending, etc. has, if anything, made a McCain presidency less viable. If the kingmakers have noticed anything, it is that their base will not longer tolerate the policy of continually seeking appeasement of the left to go after the mythical middle. The Alito nomination and the efforts of the WH to FINALLY fight the anti-Iraq spin, I believe, represents the result of the abandonment of this policy. I am not sure how one can turn that into an improving primary situation for McCain.


48 posted on 11/28/2005 10:34:43 AM PST by madconservative
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To: rhombus

And if we stay with primaries, get away from Super Tuesday. This risks us winding up with someone who doesn't deserve our support.

Break up the timing of the primary votes, if it's necessary to keep them.


49 posted on 11/28/2005 10:35:21 AM PST by saveliberty (Conservativism - the commitment to live within your own means and to take care of yourself & family)
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To: saveliberty
McCain? Giulaini? Clinton?

Perot is a certifiable lunatic and I seriously would not vote for him but at least he has successfully run a few businesses which gives him more credibility than the above list.
50 posted on 11/28/2005 10:35:44 AM PST by j_k_l
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