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Lent house in shambles (Katrina evacuees trash accomodations)
Carroll County Times ^ | 29 Nov 2005 | Diane Reynolds

Posted on 11/29/2005 6:01:20 PM PST by Nomorjer Kinov

When the Firm Foundation Worship Center got the call that a family of nine escaping Hurricane Katrina had arrived in Westminster needing a house, church members jumped into action.

"They came here with nothing," said Marge DiMaggio, the church's co-pastor.

As quickly as possible, church members made a house on church property look like a home.

When the Brown family left on Sunday, the DiMaggios were horrified to find the house in shambles.

"Hurricane hits Firm Foundation," said Marge DiMaggio.

While answering the call in September, church members' hearts were filled with compassion for the unknown family.

"We brought our pillows over," said Marge DiMaggio, so the family could sleep well the first night.

The church laid new carpet donated by Altieri Builders, redid the bathrooms, found appliances and even hung curtains to make the old-fashioned white-frame house welcoming to the family.

They bought clothes, assembled beds out of mattresses donated by the Westminster Rescue Mission and stocked the pantry with food.

The Browns paid no rent and no utilities for the house.

On Sunday, the DiMaggios entered the house after church, at about 1 p.m., said Marge DiMaggio's son, Brian DiMaggio. The Browns left during church services, between 11 and noon, he said.

A lamp was smashed on the floor, the lampshade stomped.

The screen door was torn off the hinges and flung onto the back deck.

Someone cut a hole in the trampoline that belonged to Joann DiMaggio's children.

Curtain rods were ripped from the wall and left bent and dangling from one screw.

Clothing, potato chip bags, soda cans, socks and empty bags were strewn throughout the house.

A hole was punched in a bathroom wall.

In another bathroom, dried toothpaste was smeared on the vanity, a capless toothpaste tube on the windowsill above.

A big, broken pink plastic car was abandoned on the hill outside the house.

In a dirty refrigerator upstairs, someone left a coffee mug with an inch or two layer of coffee sludge in the bottom.

Dirty dishes were stacked in the sink or on the counters.

But in perhaps the biggest insult, the words "MD Sucks" were emblazoned in black paint on the side of the home.

"When our eyes caught this, we all stood here and froze," Marge DiMaggio said.

Unhappy in Maryland

According to 42-year-old Keith Brown, who with his wife and children was halfway back to their home state of Louisiana, the property was not misused.

"We cleaned up as much as we could," he said.

He denied painting "MD Sucks" on the side of the house. His wife denied knowledge of any vandalism.

Yet Brown, whose family was referred to the church by Home Services Resources of Westminster, admitted to being unhappy during his stay here.

"We had a lot of problems with people about the house," he said.

The DiMaggios would come in and sneak around when the family was out, he said. The DiMaggios would tell them they needed to clean up this and that.

"Living in that environment and having someone watching over your shoulder wasn't worth crap," he said.

Marge and Joann DiMaggio were stunned at Brown's angry response to their generosity.

"The house was so fresh two months ago," said Marge DiMaggio. "We didn't check up on them," she said. "We didn't lord over them. We had no idea."

A few times early on they did ask that things be cleaned up, but that was only natural, she said.

Further, Brown said, the family was never provided with money he said the church promised to help them return home.

"If I wouldn't have done some under-the-table work ... I would never have the money to come home," Brown said.

All of this, he said, left a bad taste in his mouth.

They had to fight to keep items given to them, such as one of the home's two refrigerators and a washing machine, he said. The DiMaggios, who let the Browns have the items, said they had believed the appliances were donated to the house, not the family.

Brown said the DiMaggios, having heard a rumor the Browns were leaving, insulted the family by showing the house to another couple without the Browns' permission.

The DiMaggios had a right to show the house to prospective renters, Marge DiMaggio said. "Frankly, we didn't need permission to bring someone in."

The prospective renters said the house was trashed, but they did not see any vandalism, according to Brian DiMaggio.

The Browns never thanked the church for what it did, Marge DiMaggio said.

"I don't know why they would have a bad taste in their mouth when everything was given to them," she said. "We gave them everything. They never paid for anything."

Natural response

Therein might lie the problem, said psychologist Harald Graning of Confidential Counseling of Westminster.

While the Browns might look like the ultimate ingrates, their response is not unnatural, he said.

"Suppose that you were living your life," he said, "and all of a sudden God came down and destroyed your house? You'd probably be pissed."

The anger that people feel under such circumstances needs to be vented and often isn't.

Unfortunately, the overwhelming generosity of others can backfire by intensifying the recipient's sense of anger and helplessness.

"You are forced to accept charity," he said. "It's demeaning."

Doing good makes the benefactor feel better, not the person being helped, he said. When the person on the receiving end can't repay the kindness and feels compelled to feel appreciative, he or she can become extremely frustrated. Acting out can occur.

Church members trying to make sense of the situation shouldn't feel rejected or upset their gifts were rejected, he said.


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Louisiana; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: charity; christians; dirtbags; evacuees; fromtrashtotrash; graning; haraldgraning; ingrates; katrina; katrinarelief; keithbrown; lowlifes; pondscum; psychobabble; vandalism
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To: Rodney King

Only an idiot would think this 'family' was representative of most evacuees.

These people were trash, but many more who have been helped are extremely grateful. Those who help understand that there is some risk, yet they help anyway. They make this country better, not some keyboard blowhard.


101 posted on 11/29/2005 7:12:11 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: TexasTransplant; billhilly

Oh, I'm not apologizing for their behavior. I'm just saying that they probably routinely trash any house they live in as part of their normal lifestyle. They were probably in public or subsidized housing in NO and did the same thing there.

So maybe there was some added resentment against the people who tried to help them out, but I suspect they routinely misbehave anyway, and have taught the same misbehavior to their kids. No doubt the kids will all grow up to be little gangstas too.


102 posted on 11/29/2005 7:12:42 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Nomorjer Kinov
One of the worst stories I've heard about criminal Katrina evacuees is from my niece's friend who, along with her husband, took in a family of eight in a town north of Houston. They were providing temporary shelter in their nice big home. On the third day, the homeowners woke up to find that the people they sheltered had stolen both of their cars in the dead of night.

Unlucky for them, they still owed money on both vehicles and because of something quirky in Texas law, they were told they cannot make a claim that the vehicles were stolen. Seems Texas law has a "what is yours is mine" type of provision when homeowners invite others to live under their roofs!

This law needs changing, and fast! I guarantee you that if one of their criminal "guests" would have slipped and accidentally fallen in the home providing their shelter, the farking law would damn sure allow the crooks to file a law suit against the homeowners. Something is dreadfully wrong when people, out of the kindness of their hearts, provide the needy with shelter, food and comforts, but are legally allowed to be robbed and violated by these "needy" people, and are left with no recourse.

This is a perfect example of laws gone amok & I'm sick of it!
103 posted on 11/29/2005 7:18:40 PM PST by demkicker
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To: NicknamedBob



Outpatient Services

Located in Carroll County Health Department
290 S. Center Street
Westminster, MD 21157
410-876-4410 or 410-876-4800

Addiction Program Coordinator: Harald Graning, L.C.S.W.-C.


104 posted on 11/29/2005 7:19:08 PM PST by Walkingfeather
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To: sit-rep

What's racist about your post?


105 posted on 11/29/2005 7:25:53 PM PST by babydoll22 (If you stop growing as a person you live in your own private hell.)
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To: Diddle E. Squat

I agree. They were trash. Part of what they did was just the fact that they obviously weren't accustomed to keeping their place clean on a regular basis, and they clearly got a little annoyed about anybody making demands on them.

I imagine these were welfare folks who aren't used to having to do anything about their lives or their environment. A family member who worked for Habitat for years said certain people could get a brand new house and reduce it to a slum in under a year, mostly because they were totally passive and didn't know about cleaning or repairing.

I don't think this family was typical, though. Or at least I hope not.


106 posted on 11/29/2005 7:26:15 PM PST by livius
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To: Nomorjer Kinov

Most head-shrinkers, these days, believe that "it's all
relative, there's no right or wrong".


107 posted on 11/29/2005 7:26:43 PM PST by upcountryhorseman (An old fashioned conservative)
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To: All

I was taking a course at a local university. In the class were other adults my age, and some college aged kids.

The kids were getting ready to go into a nearby 'inner city' to help with the yearly clean-up of empty lots, and parks and so on. They were all excited and wide-eyed idealists.

During the discussion, one of the adults asked the kids why the people who lived there didn't pick up their own trash. You should have seen the looks on their faces!! It never occurred to them!


108 posted on 11/29/2005 7:27:34 PM PST by Exit148 (Founder of the Loose Change Club. Every nickle and dime counts!!)
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To: Diddle E. Squat

So I take it then that you took one in and you are not a "keyboard blowhard"?


109 posted on 11/29/2005 7:30:40 PM PST by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Nomorjer Kinov

Celebrate diversity!


110 posted on 11/29/2005 7:33:30 PM PST by neutrino (Globalization is the economic treason that dare not speak its name.(173))
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To: Galveston Grl

Right. My grandparents were poor. Their home was always spotless.


111 posted on 11/29/2005 7:35:59 PM PST by plain talk
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To: Nick5

You know the cost of "rebuilding" is droppping...as people learns of incidents like this..and the Fema and insurance companies go look at the damage..its easy to see you don't have to fix it up to much...to our standards that is..that's how they live...like trash in trash....most would be happy with a new dog kennel and a crack pipe


112 posted on 11/29/2005 7:43:08 PM PST by Youngman442002
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To: Nomorjer Kinov

Wish I could say we are surprised. We are not. Many evacuees from Katrina were good people needing help. There are also those who are not, and are in our area causing all sort of problems. Drugs, murders, you name it.

Bless those who opened a home and hearts to them.

A final comment.... these people have lived generations on the "gimmie trail".... the expect and do not respect.

Nana


113 posted on 11/29/2005 7:43:37 PM PST by Texas Termite (We have a new star in the heavens :))
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To: Nomorjer Kinov
Doing good makes the benefactor feel better, not the person being helped, he said. When the person on the receiving end can't repay the kindness and feels compelled to feel appreciative, he or she can become extremely frustrated. Acting out can occur.

What a load of total BS!! The only people who "act out" and become "extremely frustrated" are lowlife, selfish, losers who feel they are entitled to whatever they can get because even when bad things happen that are nobodys fault, somebody has to PAY. It's vile and disgusting. People like the Browns are ungratreful slime. How utterly appalling.

114 posted on 11/29/2005 7:44:51 PM PST by blinachka (Vechnaya Pamyat Daddy... xoxo)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

About 5 years ago I bought a new truck and instead of "giving" my old '93 chevy S-10 with a lot of miles to a dealer on a trade in, I gave it to my 30 year old daughter who was very much in need of a vehicle.

She drove it for about a year and it developed transmission problems. She called me and wanted to know what I was going to do about it. I laughed in her ear over the phone and told her that my gift to her didn't come with a life time warranty.

She was upset with me but got over it, as I knew she would. She sold the truck "as is" for $1,000 - Do you think Dad saw any of that money?


115 posted on 11/29/2005 7:46:37 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: blinachka

I agree with you 100%. Stop making excuses for TRASH. That's what's wrong with the "system". They were ungrateful and disrespectful. Period.!!!

Nana


116 posted on 11/29/2005 7:47:10 PM PST by Texas Termite (We have a new star in the heavens :))
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To: MinuteGal

I predict that CNN, ABC and NBC will come down heavily on the side of the broke evacuees, claiming that the evil rich imperialist Bushistas are tossing old black people in the streets while raping the planet for oil. FOX will be the only MSM who even suggests that perhaps the evacuees should have been looking for jobs and housing all this time. Kanye West and the Rev'rund Jacks'hun will be all over this. It will be reported as yet more evidence of the pathetic state of race relations and abject poverty in this country since Bush was (s)elected.


117 posted on 11/29/2005 7:49:13 PM PST by Sender (Team Infidel USA)
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To: Nomorjer Kinov

1. Most of these people should not have been taken out of Louisiana. New Orleans is a bad place for reason.
2. Except for one person I haven't heard a single Katrina evacuee say thank you in public.
3. Hopefully, the DiMaggio's have learned a lesson.


118 posted on 11/29/2005 7:55:16 PM PST by thathamiltonwoman
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To: Youngman442002

When you say how "they" live, whom do you mean by "they?"


119 posted on 11/29/2005 8:09:45 PM PST by Nick5
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To: Nomorjer Kinov

It's sometimes nice to watch a liberal get educated.


120 posted on 11/29/2005 8:10:11 PM PST by PAR35
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To: Nomorjer Kinov
Somebody's gotta send these people a copy of Emily Post!
121 posted on 11/29/2005 8:31:03 PM PST by Savage Beast ("Oprah: The light that shines so gently on those who need it most." ~Sidney Poitier)
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To: plain talk
"Suppose that you were living your life and all of a sudden God came down and destroyed your house?

And somebody took me in? Why naturally I'd trash his house and write grafitti all over his walls. What the hell do you think I'd do?

122 posted on 11/29/2005 8:41:05 PM PST by Savage Beast ("Oprah: The light that shines so gently on those who need it most." ~Sidney Poitier)
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To: Savage Beast

Doesn't everyone?


123 posted on 11/29/2005 8:47:33 PM PST by TexasTransplant (NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSET)
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To: Nomorjer Kinov

Therein might lie the problem, said psychologist Harald Graning of Confidential Counseling of Westminster.

While the Browns might look like the ultimate ingrates, their response is not unnatural, he said.

"Suppose that you were living your life," he said, "and all of a sudden God came down and destroyed your house? You'd probably be pissed."
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Suppose that you were living your life, and a deadly hurricane began tracking toward your house? You made unwise choices for whatever reasons, and suffered devastating consequences, but you and your family escaped with your lives, and God provided a way out of the devastation, and a home for you and your family with all of the necessities of life. Those provisions were free, with only the expectation that you would bear the responsibilty of maintaining them, and leaving them in the condition in which you found them for the next family that might be in need of them. Wouldn't you be thankful? Wouldn't you be appreciative enough to meet those expectations because you would want to help someone else the way you had been helped?

However, you could follow the counsel of the "psychologist" - or, perhaps your "natural" instincts - and blame good, and excuse evil, and be offended that the provisions were too little, and too late. He would say that is "not unnatural", and he is a psychologist, so he must know - right?


124 posted on 11/29/2005 8:51:47 PM PST by LucyJo ("I have overcome the world." "Abide in Me." (John 16:33; 15:4)
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To: Nick5

I tend to believe your experience was the norm


125 posted on 11/29/2005 8:57:13 PM PST by When do we get liberated? ((God save us from the whining, useless, irrelevent left...))
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To: Sender

remember hurricane Floyd in N.C. 1998? I saw the FEMA homes there as late as 2002...still there for all i know.


126 posted on 11/29/2005 9:00:00 PM PST by When do we get liberated? ((God save us from the whining, useless, irrelevent left...))
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To: twntaipan

Yeah, the problems arise when they make the dung shine on your property...


127 posted on 11/29/2005 9:02:49 PM PST by When do we get liberated? ((God save us from the whining, useless, irrelevent left...))
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To: MinuteGal
Personally, I can't wait. Before FedGov dumps any more of my tax dollars into these louts, we need to see what we've been paying for up close. Come January, it's going to be really messy. Not even the MSM is going to be able to cover this up.
128 posted on 11/29/2005 9:04:07 PM PST by zeugma (Warning: Self-referential object does not reference itself.)
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To: Nomorjer Kinov
It is unfortunate that some people will take advantage of a situation and ruin any future help for others. I understand what the psychologist was trying to say, but there are other ways to handle anger and frustration than destroying someones property. If they were that unhappy they should have moved. In two months that man and woman should have been able to find a job and another rental place.
129 posted on 11/29/2005 9:13:33 PM PST by RebaJ
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To: LucyJo

Well stated.


130 posted on 11/29/2005 9:25:38 PM PST by Nomorjer Kinov
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To: Nick5

In my opinion, Mark Morial was the most corrupt mayor we have ever had, and that is saying a lot. I would not be surprised if the levee's poor construction had something to do with kickbacks to him.


131 posted on 11/29/2005 9:53:16 PM PST by Saints fan
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To: Nomorjer Kinov

I'm sorry, but this is no excuse. Accepting charity doesn't demean you. Good people would appreciate the help. This case sounds like they didn't get the best of everything they thought they had coming to them.


132 posted on 11/29/2005 11:05:22 PM PST by Shery (S. H. in APOland)
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To: Nomorjer Kinov
there are no excuses for trashing the house, no matter what psychobabble is spouted.......

something I have to tell myself however, is that "giving" to a needy person or family can help the giver more than the receiver, and we can't always look at where or who our giving goes to....we're going to be dissappointed.....we have to instead, focus on how charity is improving our lives, our outlooks, our humanity, our Christianity....

lately, I have been more prone to help people that I know personally, or neices or nephews that are struggling with young families.....I don't even like to give to the food bank anymore.....I'd rather bring stuff personally to someone I know that needs it....

133 posted on 11/30/2005 2:21:16 AM PST by cherry
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To: Nomorjer Kinov

WELL, THEY TURNED THE DOME INTO A GHETTO IN THREE DAYS, WHY IS THIS SURPRISING?


134 posted on 11/30/2005 2:27:36 AM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Oatka

>> On an almost yearly basis, they raised the rents of everyone but us - gotta be a connection.

My in-laws have a little rental empire of 25-30 houses in a town of about 50,000. I've watched them operate for many years, and helped some when there (I helped swap out a water heater on Black Friday while there for Thanksgiving).

Let me assure you, there was most definitely a connection, if your landlord was at all like them.


135 posted on 11/30/2005 2:47:26 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: Nomorjer Kinov

BFL


136 posted on 11/30/2005 3:08:17 AM PST by gridlock (eliminate perverse incentives)
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To: blogblogginaway

I was taught to "pass it on." If the family had been busy working and going even further to fix the house up, and had tried to do some charity work on their own, they wouldn't have had any energy left over to "vent."


137 posted on 11/30/2005 3:19:32 AM PST by hocndoc (http://www.lifeethics.org/www.lifeethics.org/index.html)
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To: Nomorjer Kinov

Natural response, my derriere.


138 posted on 11/30/2005 3:41:38 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Nomorjer Kinov
Doing good makes the benefactor feel better, not the person being helped, he said. When the person on the receiving end can't repay the kindness and feels compelled to feel appreciative, he or she can become extremely frustrated. Acting out can occur.

This is sad, but true. If one wants to do good, one should do good. Just don't expect any thanks for your efforts.

People who find themselves in need of charity often have poor impulse control, for one reason or another. They may frequently lash out. It has ever been such.

Helping the poor, clothing the naked, feeding the hungry and sheltering the homeless is it's own reward. You will get no other, so don't expect it. But you are not doing it for yourself, anyway.

139 posted on 11/30/2005 4:46:39 AM PST by gridlock (eliminate perverse incentives)
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To: Nomorjer Kinov

These folks better hope they don't get in a similier situation in the future. Someone out out there is making a list and I'm sure they'll be checking it twice, gonna find out who's been naughty and who's been nice. ( Merry Christmas)


140 posted on 11/30/2005 4:56:06 AM PST by wolfcreek
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To: Nomorjer Kinov

Where is Jesse Jackson in our time of need. Answer: out in California trying to get a serial murderer off.


141 posted on 11/30/2005 4:59:30 AM PST by hgro (A)
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To: Grenada

i was taught ..you borrow something , you return it in the same shape or better shape then it was loaned to you. there was no reason these people left this house in such shape. it sounds to me these people have no standards. what do they want for nothing? theyre lucky not to be in a tent. i dread to see what the trailers that are supposed to be temp housing will look like after a few weeks or the new houses that have been given to some. theres good people who are greatful for anything they get but then there are the people who feel we owe them everything. this family should get no help until they pay for the damage they've caused. i dont understand how so many people can whine so much instead of getting out and finding housing and work. what if fema wasnt there to give anything??? what would they do then? i gave and gave to the victims but now i'm done. i now believe in helping those who will help themselves.


142 posted on 11/30/2005 6:02:42 AM PST by pandoraou812
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To: Nick5
Not all.

Same here. I took in a fellow that lost everything but his grandpaw's shotgun and one sack of clothes. He is sleeping on a matress on the floor in my spare bedroom that I use for an office.

He has found a job. (had to get a ride for a few weeks) He has bought an old car. He buys groceries, is constantly cleaning the yard, house, etc. I have not heard a single complaint.

There's a lot of scum out there but this fellow ain't one of them.

143 posted on 11/30/2005 6:06:03 AM PST by houeto (Mr. President, close our borders now!)
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To: Nomorjer Kinov

The entitlement mentality says we can have it and destroy it and then expect more. This is a miniature version of what happens to many 'housing projects' in cities all across the United States. In neighborhoods where people pay for their own screen doors they don't seem to get ripped from the hinges nearly as often. I wonder why? I've also noticed in neighborhoods where people pay for their own glass, there are far fewer boarded up windows. Could it be that people take better care of things they pay for themselves?


144 posted on 11/30/2005 6:14:47 AM PST by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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To: dannyboy72
They go into the "you owe it to me" category where it's never ever enough.

You are so right. We have been experiencing this first hand lately in our family, but I've observed similar behavior for years all around me.

The only way to help the person be independent and have some level of self esteem is to quit helping them and make it clear that they won't be getting anything else from you. The problem is that when you do this, the 'victim' usually makes such a fuss over being so unjustifiably cut off that someone, somewhere, takes their side and keeps up the flow of assistance. The people who helped them and are now being mean are just piling on more abuse now, even though they are actually doing what the person needs most.

They deserve the best your money can buy for them. [/sarcasm]

145 posted on 11/30/2005 6:20:39 AM PST by Mrs. P
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To: Nomorjer Kinov

... and they heard him exclaim, as he rode out of sight, "Merry effing Christmas you stupid a$$es, now back to our blight."


146 posted on 11/30/2005 7:03:43 AM PST by Sgt_Schultze
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To: Nick5

My mind blanked when I read this article. Have these people(the evacuees mentioned) gone completely mad?! I simply can't grasp it, it makes no sense. Why would people repay an act of total kindness with this behavior? To say that I am appalled is a gross understatement.:(


147 posted on 11/30/2005 7:07:11 AM PST by Mila
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To: Nomorjer Kinov
Oh, and I'm not buying the psychologist's ridiculous explanation either. This is just bad behavior,pure and simple. These pwople have the attitude that they are OWED. Disgusting!!
148 posted on 11/30/2005 7:14:19 AM PST by Mila
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To: Nomorjer Kinov

Katrina Fatigue Ping


149 posted on 11/30/2005 7:15:59 AM PST by add925 (The Left = Xenophobes in Denial)
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To: Nomorjer Kinov

There is a Bible verse that is appropriate for this: Matthew 7:6

6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.


150 posted on 11/30/2005 7:22:18 AM PST by A. Patriot
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