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Father Must Pay Child Support For Kid That's Not His
wfmy news ^ | 11/30/2005

Posted on 11/30/2005 9:00:49 PM PST by 11th_VA

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To: 11th_VA
This keeps bothering me.
We (guys) don't have a say in whether or not the woman gets an abortion. She can kill our offspring or spare it, completely at her own discretion.
And, if she decides to have the baby, we don't get a say in whether or not we pay for the kid.
And, now, we have to pay even if the kid isn't ours.

Something is just not right here.
61 posted on 12/01/2005 6:20:13 AM PST by Little Ray (I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
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To: 11th_VA

Is it just me or is this one of the worst worded articles ever written? The speakers don't even use complete sentences to convey their thoughts. Whatever happened to proper English?


62 posted on 12/01/2005 6:23:09 AM PST by Pan_Yans Wife ("Death is better, a milder fate than tyranny. "--Aeschylus)
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To: 11th_VA
There's a prominant attorney in Guilford County (High Point) that has shown a history of aggressively seeking cases worthy of a shot at the USSC, as well as the media spotlight that accompanies such cases.

I suspect the young Billy Mason will be getting a personal visit from this man in short order.
63 posted on 12/01/2005 6:26:28 AM PST by Rebelbase (Food stamps, section-8, State paid Child support, etc. pay more than the min. wage.)
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To: flada
In most cases, a 15 year old can't sign away his or her rights.

There are often exceptions to that principle when children (especially teenagers) engage in adult activity, such as creating a child. Even when minority prohibits you from signing a legal contract, often that contract is ratified after a certain period of time once the minor has turned 18. Some statute of limitations allow minor to begin the clock once they turn 18, so if that were true in this case, he would have until age 19. Past that, you can't act on your claim no matter how young you were at the time.

64 posted on 12/01/2005 6:26:53 AM PST by LWalk18
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To: goldstategop

It's confusing when people like yourself claim a child will be abandoned because a man is not the father or was lied to about being the father and that man feels an injustice of coerced responsibility.

It's confusing because a child is not abandoned if the child has a mother.

Why do you think the mother should not carry the responsibility of raising the child on her own? Has she no responsibility here?


65 posted on 12/01/2005 6:30:01 AM PST by Hostage
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To: CrawDaddyCA
I'd go to jail before I'd pay a dime.

You've never been in jail I presume.

66 posted on 12/01/2005 6:36:58 AM PST by Joe Miner
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To: 11th_VA

One thing has not been commented on. Out there, somewhere, someone is laughing his butt off because he got the goodies and someone else got the bill. Shouldn't there be an effort to find this fine fellow and sue the smirk off of his face?


67 posted on 12/01/2005 6:51:21 AM PST by Bob Buchholz
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To: 11th_VA

"I knew this story would get under some people's skin ..."

That's what this is all about .... getting under the skin.


68 posted on 12/01/2005 7:00:48 AM PST by B4Ranch (No expiration date is on the Oath to protect America from all enemies, foreign and domestic.)
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To: Bob Buchholz

Good point.


69 posted on 12/01/2005 7:02:30 AM PST by Liberty Valance ("Those are my principles. If you don't like them I have others." - oh, and Merry Christmas!)
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To: Hostage
Why do you think the mother should not carry the responsibility of raising the child on her own? Has she no responsibility here?

Because often, if the mother can't handle it, the responsibility then falls on the third party- the state. Why should taxpayer pay because this "father" failed to be vigilant about his rights? Most civil actions has a limited period of time in which you can file a claim beyond which you are out of luck, no matter how "unfair" it may be.

70 posted on 12/01/2005 7:06:13 AM PST by LWalk18
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To: 11th_VA
The court determines paternity, not biology, so once declared the father, you're it.

Which is the fundmental travesty of law-- empirical truth is secondary to process.

71 posted on 12/01/2005 7:16:44 AM PST by atomicpossum (Replies should be as pedantic as possible. I love that so much.)
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To: 11th_VA

Surely the mother has some idea who the real father is, within a range of maybe a football team or so, and within that group, a DNA test could do the the rest in pinpointing the sperm donor.

The legal system has grossly betrayed Mr. Mason, by denying him the justice that modern techknowlegy is capable of providing.

Maybe the Judge or some of his kin contributed the sperm.


72 posted on 12/01/2005 7:18:50 AM PST by F.J. Mitchell (Okay, bring our troops home. But don't feign suprise when the terrorists tag along.)
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To: goldstategop
There's an injustice done to this man but once he assumed parental obligations, there would be an ever greater injustice done by abandonment to the child.

So he should be fraudulently enslaved for the next 18 years to protect a bastard that's not even his? What lesson are we teaching the child here. Fraud your way to success? Steal from people who owe nothing to you?

Justice is denied for all when it's denied to any

Love should never be defined by biology alone.

But parenthood should be. Lacking adoption papers or a paternity test showing he is the father a man should NEVER be enslaved to support a child that's not his. He will hate that child and pray daily for it's untimely death. I know I would under the same circumstances.

In any event this is not about love. It's about money.

If he was too stupid to know what he was doing, well he's stuck with it.

So if I'm mentally unable to be charged with murder I can get away with killing someone but if I'm mentally unable to understand paternity I get enslaved for 18+ years? Tell me you really don't think this.

If there's a moral to the story here, read the fine print before you sign away your rights. 'Nuff said.

A child cannot sign away his rights.

73 posted on 12/01/2005 7:44:03 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: 11th_VA

I understand how the courts can take the position they're taking - what with all the gay "marriage" and all. However, the mother should be on the hook for paying this man back and she should be thrown in jail. After she gets out, if she still hasn't paid him back, her check should be garnished. She has robbed this man for many years.


74 posted on 12/01/2005 7:49:24 AM PST by old and tired (Run Swannie, run!)
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To: Talking_Mouse
Does he have any relationship with the child? Has he, Mason, treated the child like his child -- nights at his house, going to the zoo, things like that? Does the child think Mason is his father, because of his, Masons, actions? If the answer to these questions is no, then he should try to appeal to the State Supreme Court. If, on the other hand the answer is yes, Mason may want to see if his relationship with the child is important enough to continue "being" his/her father.

You know, at one point, I wondered if my child from my then-wife was actually "mine." I thought long and hard about it. Then I decided that it didn't make a difference. I love my daughter more than life, and even if she wasn't biologically mine, she's still my daughter and I'm still her Daddy.

75 posted on 12/01/2005 7:49:26 AM PST by Terabitten (Illegal immigration causes Representation without Taxation.)
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To: Bob Buchholz
Shouldn't there be an effort to find this fine fellow and sue the smirk off of his face?

He likely has no idea. The mother is liable for fraud and should do jail time as an example to other promiscuous women that they had better name the right father or they will end up in the slammer.

76 posted on 12/01/2005 7:51:36 AM PST by old and tired (Run Swannie, run!)
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To: old and tired

It's not about the "courts"- it is the strict interpretation of the particular law or rule in question. The NC legislature is free to abolish the time limitations, or write a paternity law that allows fathers to challenge paternity at any time.


77 posted on 12/01/2005 7:53:32 AM PST by LWalk18
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To: PigRigger
If this was done under oath....what hasn't she been charged with perjury....?

Because she didn't perjure herself. Obviously, she was having sex with two males at approximately the same time, or else Mason wouldn't have agreed that the child was his. She may have even been using some form of birth control with one, the other, or both. With no other evidence to the contrary, she had every reason to believe that Mason was the father of her child.

78 posted on 12/01/2005 7:54:25 AM PST by Terabitten (Illegal immigration causes Representation without Taxation.)
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To: old and tired
He likely has no idea. The mother is liable for fraud and should do jail time as an example to other promiscuous women that they had better name the right father or they will end up in the slammer.

Such fraud, IMO, should only apply in cases where the parties are married. If you are sleeping with someone and you are not married to her, you should assume that she may be sleeping around with other men and plan accordingly. If your willing to commit fornication, one sin, you would not neccessarily feel obligated to remain faithful to that one person.

79 posted on 12/01/2005 7:57:26 AM PST by LWalk18
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To: 11th_VA
The court system is not about right and wrong. It's about rules and procedures. People would save themselves a lot of grief if they understood that better.
80 posted on 12/01/2005 7:57:33 AM PST by TChris ("Unless you act, you're going to lose your world." - Mark Steyn)
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