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To: ECM
You know, I don't have a horse in this race (I don't really believe in either) but the vigor with which opponents of ID are fighting this seems to be a bit extreme and over-the-top of late.

How do you figure? It's the same as the church telling Galileo not to teach that the earth revolves around the sun, or at least to also teach the earth centric model. Do you think the science community should meet this with a half-hearted, ho-hum defense?

12 posted on 12/03/2005 7:03:57 AM PST by weaponeer
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To: weaponeer

It's the same as the church telling Galileo not to teach that the earth revolves around the sun, or at least to also teach the earth centric model. Do you think the science community should meet this with a half-hearted, ho-hum defense?



There is no theocracy in America pushing down Darwin as Aristotle did Gallileo. It were not the church itself, but followers of Aristotle within the church which insisted that "the heavier something is, the faster it falls".

The church then did not practice theology but Aristotelian theory and philosophy. It's just that the church had a monopoly over education.

And, by the way, Kopernic himself used the current theories to figure a way and it did not work.The errors and bad schools of the past were the things which when recognized and disproved help prove things and advance science.

Scientists should be busy trying to disproving ID rather than aborting the thought of it. Yet they are not scientists enough to do what they advocate to do, to let science itself decide.

Proof by the absurdity is always used, computer error algorithms are what enable us to manage bugs and incongruous requests by a user. Scientists should focus on developing critical methods and curriculae. But since this would mean a threat to their current stature as their own theories get ammended by smarter and younger ones, they don't want to...they violate Darwin's theory itself and sin.


25 posted on 12/03/2005 7:29:12 AM PST by JudgemAll (Condemn me, make me naked and kill me, or be silent for ever on my gun ownership and law enforcement)
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To: weaponeer; ECM
"How do you figure? It's the same as the church telling Galileo not to teach that the earth revolves around the sun, or at least to also teach the earth centric model. Do you think the science community should meet this with a half-hearted, ho-hum defense?"

The argument was between two different scientific theories one of which "the church" bought into .. so stop rewriting history.

"What were Galileo Galilei's conflicts with the Roman Catholic Church? It was not a simple conflict between science and religion, as usually portrayed. Rather it was a conflict between Copernican science and Aristotelian science which had become Church tradition. Galileo expressed his scientific views supporting Copernicus as well as his biblical views in a 1615 letter to the Grand Duchess of Tuscany ..." MORE

28 posted on 12/03/2005 7:36:02 AM PST by Matchett-PI ( "History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid." -- Dwight Eisenhower)
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To: weaponeer
...It's the same as the church telling Galileo not to teach that the earth revolves around the sun, or at least to also teach the earth centric model. ...

Wrong. Its like Galileo dictating to the church that because the Earth revolves without strings attached, that they can't teach that God set it in motion. Its amazing how quickly scientific-free-thinkers are to squash even the airing of apposing views. Can't science stand on its own?

34 posted on 12/03/2005 8:02:23 AM PST by SampleMan
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