You know, I don't have a horse in this race (I don't really believe in either) but the vigor with which opponents of ID are fighting this seems to be a bit extreme and over-the-top of late.
You have to perhaps consider that the subject of the debate is a political movement disguised as science which is saying, "Naturalistic explanations are impossible and will never be found, so we might as well just officially punt and say 'Goddidit!'"
You don't learn anything from a "science" like that. It has no place in science class. Thus, the opposition will probably be nearly total from those with a brain.
The main pusher of ID, an organization called the Discovery Institute, has admitted that ID has no classroom-ready content directly regarding ID. What they want to rush into class now is something called "the controversy," which is a collection of recycled creationist arguments against evolution with some minor new wrinkles by Behe and Dembski.
In other words, the bag of ID is still empty just now, but we want to throw in a grab-bag of old, discredited screeches that another theory is wrong. This cannot be justfied on the grounds of science education, so why do it at all?
When ID does something to increase the sum of human knowledge, they can put it in science class.
posted on 12/03/2005 7:21:00 AM PST
(Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
When ID does something to increase the sum of human knowledge, they can put it in science class
Questioning has never been wrong if done fairly. This is what increases knowledge and our lot, not the Darwin theory itself as a sort of algorithm, but the questioning itself is the main "algorithm of the algorithms".
By the way, this is one of the worst articles ever in support of Darwinism. It's all about avoiding and forbiding the questions and debates around Darwinism and entitling a theory. It's about control of curriculum and making a fuss about ID when there is so much lies, distortions and stupid unscientific radical political cult teachers and curriculae out there.
A theory is not scientific if it is entitled. I defeats the purpose of science itself which for its own improvement cannot rely on entitlements. It's ridiculous that the AMA uses its sheer entitlement power and not reason to make their point. The most UNSCIENTIFIC screed ever and thus worst advocacy of Darwinism I have seen yet.
posted on 12/03/2005 7:46:44 AM PST
(Condemn me, make me naked and kill me, or be silent for ever on my gun ownership and law enforcement)
"You don't learn anything from a "science" like that. It has no place in science class. Thus, the opposition will probably be nearly total from those with a brain."
You aver to a larger and more fundamental issue in the ID debate that is also central to the article.
The ID/Evolutionary battle is central to the Culture Wars and plays to the dark side of liberalism vs conservatism.
Look at the words the IDers use when they describe University professors; Commies, elitists, privileged, entitled.....and the list goes on.
America is entering a period of profound anti-intellecualism that will ultimately damage the stature of American academics if it is allowed to continue.
The IDers are peeing in their own bath water and demanding that everyone else jump in.
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