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TBN Suspends Hal Lindsey Show
Contender Ministries ^ | Dec 5th, 2005 | Jennifer Rast

Posted on 12/05/2005 3:15:43 PM PST by laney

The Trinity Broadcasting Network has suspended Hal Lindsey’s television program, “International Intelligence Briefing” for the month of December, and possibly permanently. According to Lindsey’s website, his show was suspended because, “Some at the network apparently feel that my message is too pro-Israel and too anti-Muslim.” A phone call and email to TBN have not received a response yet. If and when TBN responds, I’ll update this post.

In the interest of full disclosure, I should say that I’m not in 100% agreement with all of Hal Lindsey’s statements, and I’m also not the biggest fan of TBN. While many of their programs are quite enjoyable, I am troubled by others. I believe the opulent gold-gilded set of their “Praise the Lord” show sends the wrong message - one of worldly materialism. One person in the TBN hierarchy has made statements that I believe undermine orthodox Trinitarian doctrine. With that said, I don’t watch enough of TBN’s programming to make judgments beyond this. However, if TBN did suspend IIB for the reasons Lindsey has stated, this will be quite troubling. From what I have seen on Lindsey’s IIB show, he has done nothing more than express the truth regarding Islam and shared in God’s view of Israel. If Lindsey’s accusations are true, I have to wonder how much this decision has been influenced by a large, “mainline” denomination that has taken the disturbing step of divesting from Israel and blaming them for the fact that innocent Israelis get blown apart by Palestinian terrorists.

As more information is available on this, I’ll share it.


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To: laney

Wow, he sure has changed since Barney Miller.


51 posted on 12/05/2005 4:23:08 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
For the most part I find TBN very embarrassing. I wouldn't want to be associated with them.

I wouldn't want to admit to knowing anyone that watched them except to make fun of them. And I don't see how they can sleep at night after they have Benny Hinn on.

52 posted on 12/05/2005 4:25:07 PM PST by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: sasportas
"TBN and Hal Lindsey and Van Impe's pretrib rapture - all peas of the same pod, in my opinion."

.. the radical and absurd Hal Lindsey/Grant Jeffrey/Tim LaHaye consortium

53 posted on 12/05/2005 4:25:40 PM PST by Matchett-PI ( "History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid." -- Dwight Eisenhower)
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To: Central Scrutiniser
(of course, having to be married to Jan would make anyone gay)

You mean pink haired ladies don't turn you on? What is wrong with you? LOL

54 posted on 12/05/2005 4:27:20 PM PST by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
"For the most part I find TBN very embarrassing. I wouldn't want to be associated with them."

Ditto that.

.. it has become clear that certain questions dealing with eschatology, in particular the questions, "Did Jesus predict a soon return? Did the Apostles expect a soon return?", have become grist for .."

55 posted on 12/05/2005 4:28:13 PM PST by Matchett-PI ( "History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid." -- Dwight Eisenhower)
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To: em2vn
Is this the same story that has been running on FR for about three days?

At least.

56 posted on 12/05/2005 4:29:47 PM PST by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: highlander_UW
"..One can believe in the money, but to actually HAVE the money one must put action to that belief and reach out for it."

"Isn't that special?"


57 posted on 12/05/2005 4:31:08 PM PST by Matchett-PI ( "History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid." -- Dwight Eisenhower)
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To: laney

It would not be Christian to be PRO Islam.

What gives?


58 posted on 12/05/2005 4:34:54 PM PST by nmh ( Intelligent people believe in Intelligent Design (God))
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To: laney

I refuse all TV Church until they bring Tammy Faye back.

The eyeshadow running down her cheeks, the makeup, the VERY, VERY heavily laquered hairdos have never been matched.

So what were you saying about "commercial enterprise?"

These people are entertainers. I don't watch.


59 posted on 12/05/2005 4:35:37 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: laney

I think the Van Impe's are fine Christian people however their definition of "Christian" is VERY broad and not in agreement with the Bible - that's my problem with them.


60 posted on 12/05/2005 4:36:12 PM PST by nmh ( Intelligent people believe in Intelligent Design (God))
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To: nmh

Jack Van Impe has a understanding or supposed understanding of the Book of Revelation like no other person I have listened to.


61 posted on 12/05/2005 4:38:34 PM PST by laney (Merry Christmas Freepers!)
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To: highlander_UW
"I've looked up scripture that he's cited and when I have, they don't always support the claims he makes...but I suppose one can write that off to differing interpretations. I do not watch Van Impe any longer(or TBN for that matter), although I know a number of people that are concerned about his embracing of the RCC, but I have not personally seen what he says on the topic."

I've done the same. What he spouts off is often not in the correct context as his statements.

I don't watch him anymore either. I think they're fine people but embracing RCC is not Christian. He ought to be gently leading them to Christ. I've seen him constantly pit LIBERAL and I mean LIBERAL Protestant clergy against conservative Catholic clergy to promote Catholicism. When the Priest sex abuse scandals all is silent. I don't understand why he doesn't become a Catholic.
62 posted on 12/05/2005 4:40:20 PM PST by nmh ( Intelligent people believe in Intelligent Design (God))
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To: laney
Ah, Charles Stanley - now he preaches the Word of God. So did Adrian Rogers and David Jeremiah (sp). Those are the ones that preach the Bible without apology.
63 posted on 12/05/2005 4:43:43 PM PST by nmh ( Intelligent people believe in Intelligent Design (God))
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To: sasportas
"Hal Lindsey is synonomous with the pre-trib rapture doctrine. Invented by John Darby of England, popularized by Scofield and lindsey. In other areas I agree with him, his stand on conservative moral issues, etc., but as the modern high priest of pretribism he is a false prophet. No one in church history believed there was such a thing as a pretrib rapture - not until the 19th century when Darby invented it.

you've nailed it. It's been awhile but I have read both books that go into great detail and research about that, by Dave Macpherson.
I think a lot of the characters TBN features, Rod Parsley, that singing prophet Kim Clement...their brains have been raptured.

64 posted on 12/05/2005 4:44:29 PM PST by Deadshot Drifter
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To: sasportas

Paul believed in the rapture.


65 posted on 12/05/2005 4:48:34 PM PST by Millie
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To: Matchett-PI

I took a look at your "Hoax" link, and found the following:

>>>"When Jesus said in Matt. 24:32-34 that "this generation will not pass away," He was not referring to some future generation that would see the political nation of Israel established by the United Nations. He was referring to the generation alive at the time He spoke the words. His words were fulfilled. In 70 A.D. Jerusalem was utterly destroyed. "<<<

Something appears to be wrong with this statement. It stated that during the generation that Christ was present on earth in the flesh, or during the next 40 years, the following happened:

1. Many came in Christ's name, saying, I am Christ; and deceived many (Matt 24:5)

2. The people heard of wars and rumours of wars (Matt 24:6)

3. Nation rose against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there were famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places. (Matt24:7)

4. The gospel of the kingdom was preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations. (Matt 24:14)

5. There was a great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to that time, no, nor ever shall be. And except those days were shortened, there would have been no flesh saved. (Matthew 24:21-22)

6. Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun was darkened, and the moon did not give her light, and the stars fell from heaven, and the powers of the heavens were shaken. (Matt 24:29)

And so on . . .

I am unaware that any of those events occurred during the generation that was alive when Christ was on the earth. Can you clarify?


66 posted on 12/05/2005 4:49:59 PM PST by PhilipFreneau ("The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. " - Psalms 14:1, 53:1)
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To: pepperhead
"You mean pink haired ladies don't turn you on? What is wrong with you? LOL

ehhh Jan doesn't. This one does :)


67 posted on 12/05/2005 4:54:27 PM PST by Deadshot Drifter
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To: nmh

You picked my three favorite teachers. I still listen to Adrian Rogers on OnePlace.com. Dr. Stanley is my Senior Pastor...so, God has used him to influence my spirital walk and biblical knowledge.


68 posted on 12/05/2005 4:54:30 PM PST by jer33 3
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To: Matchett-PI

Not sure if you were tracking...it's an example regarding putting actions to faith in accepting Christ.


69 posted on 12/05/2005 4:58:28 PM PST by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: laney

I look forward to Hal Lindsey's program each week. Other than his program, 700 Club and John Hagee are the only other TBN programs I watch on TBN. I agree, the big hair and the gilded chairs are a bit much, and not in line with true Christianity standards, imho.


70 posted on 12/05/2005 4:59:53 PM PST by Paperdoll (On the cutting edge)
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To: laney

Oh, yes! I forgot, Dr. Charles Stanley is my all time favorite TV pastor. I also get him on radio. Lindsey is right about Israel. They are our only allies in the mid-East, and as Christians, we know that their land was given to them by God. I am against US meddling in Israeli affairs, to the extent that we advise giving land to the Palestinians. I agree that this will only bring disaster to Israel in the long run.


71 posted on 12/05/2005 5:05:16 PM PST by Paperdoll (On the cutting edge)
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To: pepperhead

Yeah, TBN is like "Theology for retards"

But, as long as the checks clear, Jan can endlessly gurgle and cry about "little baby jesus" and continue to look like she walked through an Earl Scheib paintroom while it was doing Huggy Bear's pimpmobile.


72 posted on 12/05/2005 5:06:48 PM PST by Central Scrutiniser (Never pet a dog that is on fire)
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To: Xenalyte

Best. Show. Ever.
73 posted on 12/05/2005 5:07:52 PM PST by Khurkris ("Hell, I was there"...Elmer Keith.)
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To: pepperhead

Funny that no one seems to mind that Paul Crouch made his male driver perform sexual acts on him.

And they say the Catholic church has problems...


74 posted on 12/05/2005 5:08:23 PM PST by Central Scrutiniser (Never pet a dog that is on fire)
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To: Paperdoll

Dr. Stanley is Awesome! he is so real and inspiring....
I watch those same programs and find them to be very informative..


75 posted on 12/05/2005 5:09:31 PM PST by laney (Merry Christmas Freepers!)
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To: the-ironically-named-proverbs2; Jeremiah Jr

If Hal Lindsey was suspended, does that mean he was Raptured?


76 posted on 12/05/2005 5:12:54 PM PST by Thinkin' Gal (As it was in the days of NO...)
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To: laney

You're kidding right? The Van Impes, Lindsey, and as a matter of fact Hagee at times (not to mention Hinn and a few others) do a great disservice to spreading the Gospel message. Everytime you turn it on the world's ending tomorrow or they're laying some poor sap out on the stage with a right hook they call laying on off hands


77 posted on 12/05/2005 5:13:39 PM PST by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: Xenalyte

Brilliant! LOL! What a great show that was.

Dietrich would be amused.

78 posted on 12/05/2005 5:14:56 PM PST by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Millie

Paul believed in the rapture.

I agree, however, Paul didn't believe in two second comings, only one, and he taught it as taking place after the tribulation. He did not teach a "pretrib" rapture. A pretrib rapture is not in scripture.

Neither did Jesus teach a rapture before the tribulation, read Matt. 24.


79 posted on 12/05/2005 5:15:39 PM PST by sasportas
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To: Central Scrutiniser

LMAO


80 posted on 12/05/2005 5:16:57 PM PST by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: laney

The world is going to have a hard time ending if ol Hal aint there to predict it.


81 posted on 12/05/2005 5:19:12 PM PST by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: billbears

I think the Van Impe's have a grasp on the Book of Revelation that most people proably do not understand..Hagee is very smart on the OT/NT and has a powerful way to wake folks up.


82 posted on 12/05/2005 5:19:38 PM PST by laney (Merry Christmas Freepers!)
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To: festus

MATTHEW 24

Now as He sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately, saying: "Tell us, when will these things be? And what will be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?"
And Jesus answered and said to them: "Take heed that no one deceives you.
For many will come in My name, saying, "I am the Christ," and will deceive many. False Messiah - 1
False Messiah - 2
False Messiah - 3
And you will hear wars and rumors of wars.
See that you are not troubled; for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. For nation will raise against nation, and Kingdom against kingdom. Wars / Rumors of Wars - 1
Wars / Rumors of Wars - 2
Wars / Rumors of Wars - 3
And there will be famines, Famines - 1
Famines - 2
pestilences, Pestilences - 1
Pestilences - 2
Pestilences - 3
and earthquakes in various places. Earthquakes - 1
Earthquakes - 2

"All these are the beginning of sorrows.


83 posted on 12/05/2005 5:20:47 PM PST by laney (Merry Christmas Freepers!)
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To: laney

I like T.D. Jakes


84 posted on 12/05/2005 5:23:33 PM PST by dennisw (You shouldn't let other people get your kicks for you - Bob Dylan)
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To: laney

Indeed and I have no trouble with that. But ol Hal reads the good book and somehow finds it talking about submarines, helicopters, and specific nations and world leaders.

Thats where he jumps the track......


85 posted on 12/05/2005 5:25:33 PM PST by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: Central Scrutiniser

Sir I suspect you have deeply offended Mr. Earl Scheib.


86 posted on 12/05/2005 5:27:30 PM PST by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: pepperhead

A little research will show Lindsey has never paid a nickel to TBN for the show. It's been donated air time and the production of program is a freebie. Much to do about nothing.


87 posted on 12/05/2005 5:28:01 PM PST by leaf errickson
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To: festus

Well he spins his show that's for sure..


88 posted on 12/05/2005 5:31:59 PM PST by laney (Merry Christmas Freepers!)
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To: laney
I think the Van Impe's have a grasp on the Book of Revelation that most people proably do not understand..Hagee is very smart on the OT/NT and has a powerful way to wake folks up.

Scaring the crap out of people for 30 minutes or an hour. Yep, I'm sure I read that in the New Testament somewhere. Hagee and the Van Impes can have a grasp on whatever book they choose. But neither of them focus on the love of Christ or God's gift as much as they do about end times, the very thing Christ Himself said no one knew except the Father. What is the purpose of the focus? I've watched Hagee before. He can go an entire sermon without even touching on the central Message. If this were every once in awhile I can understand it. But it's every week. If I were a pastor, I would be more concerned about explaining Christ's love and eternal gifts by believing on His name instead of when He will be showing up.

Look at Dr. Stanley. The man gets across the message of Christ, of a relationship with the Father, His love for us, and the helping of the Holy Spirit by just reading the Word. He has a loyal viewership without having his creepy wife read headlines breathlessly (not to mention the weird guy off stage that reads the 'offers') or standing in front of some huge prophetic board made solely for television. I am quite sure that there are better purposes for God's money, say giving to the poor and helping those that are less fortunate than us we were commanded to help instead of paying a team of commercial designers to come up with cool looking backdrops every few weeks.

89 posted on 12/05/2005 5:32:02 PM PST by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: dennisw

I like him too, he's a bit of a screamer but he's cool.


90 posted on 12/05/2005 5:32:41 PM PST by laney (Merry Christmas Freepers!)
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To: leaf errickson
I wouldn't associate with Benny Hinn, would you?

I don't care what kind of arrangements Lindsey had. The people at TBN are evil and do religion a major disservice.

91 posted on 12/05/2005 5:33:33 PM PST by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: billbears

Yes Haggee is animated and Dr Stanley is the best no dis-agreement there, a great speaker of the Word...

The crouches look like well hard to describe yet the kids look so conservative..kinda wierd.


92 posted on 12/05/2005 5:35:53 PM PST by laney (Merry Christmas Freepers!)
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To: festus

Even in nature, on a coral reef or on the gayest peacock could you not find a more garish thing than Jan Crotch.

And Paul with his 1974 porn star hair and mustache, the set that looks like it was designed by the only non homosexual interior designer....

TBN is great theatre, its like a huge garish drag show.


93 posted on 12/05/2005 5:39:58 PM PST by Central Scrutiniser (Never pet a dog that is on fire)
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To: festus

Hal Lindsay knows that when you have an ignorant audience, you can scare them into sending you lots of dough. Facts? Who needs him, in the "Late Great Planet Earth" universe of Hal, you just say that the world is going to end in 5 years, sell the books and make the dough. When the world doesn't end, just say its because of God's grace.

Then you do it all over again. L. Ron Hubbard has nothing on this slimy grifter.


94 posted on 12/05/2005 5:42:10 PM PST by Central Scrutiniser (Never pet a dog that is on fire)
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To: billbears

I love Dr. Stanley. But no one has mentioned John McArthur -- I think he's an excellent Bible teacher - -


95 posted on 12/05/2005 5:49:45 PM PST by duckbutt ( If you let a smile be your umbrella, then most likely your butt will get soaking wet.)
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To: laney
Hal and several other prophecy teacher\authors lost alot of credibility over the Y2K issue.

Anyway, Hal's commentary and analysis was good.

TBN is in continuous fundraising mode--they don't have time to think.

96 posted on 12/05/2005 5:51:15 PM PST by WalterSkinner
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To: WalterSkinner

Uh, he lost credibility in the 70's when he was preaching the end of the world by the 80's.

He has a gullible audience that has a short memory and lots of dough.


97 posted on 12/05/2005 5:58:00 PM PST by Central Scrutiniser (Never pet a dog that is on fire)
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To: laney
No fan of Hal's either, but I think the Crouchs are a bunch of fakes who use the name of Christ to get rich. If this is true, then it just confirms my belief about them.
98 posted on 12/05/2005 6:00:38 PM PST by ladyinred (RIP dear Texas Cowboy, you will be missed.)
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To: jer33 3

You are sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo lucky to Have Dr. Stanley! I'm green ... ;)

Did you know Adrian Rogers just passed away on November 15th? Bet he is "kicking up gold dust". A true Christian man who lived it too.

http://www.adrianrogers.org/


99 posted on 12/05/2005 6:01:57 PM PST by nmh ( Intelligent people believe in Intelligent Design (God))
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Must have been a fundraising problem...


100 posted on 12/05/2005 6:03:40 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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