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Mirecki mum on details of beating
Lawrence Journal-World ^ | December 7, 2005 | Eric Weslander

Posted on 12/07/2005 6:50:29 AM PST by johnnyb_61820

Key facts about the reported attack remained unclear Tuesday, including exactly where it happened. A report released by the Douglas County Sheriff’s Office said the location was “unknown” and listed it as south of 31st Street on either East 1400 Road or East 1500 Road.

Louisiana Street turns into East 1400 Road outside the city limits. Haskell Avenue becomes East 1500 Road.

Also, there was conflicting information about whether Mirecki reported it at the scene or at the hospital. In an interview Monday with the Journal-World, he said he called police from the side of the road, but sheriff’s officials said they were dispatched to the hospital.

Mirecki declined to clarify the discrepancy when asked about it Tuesday outside the sheriff’s office.

“I can; I just don’t want to,” he said.

The sheriff’s report, which is classified as an aggravated battery, says that Mirecki suffered minor injuries. It says the incident started about 6:20 a.m. and was reported about 6:40 a.m.

KU faculty on Tuesday pondered the effects that recent weeks’ events would have on the religious studies department.

“I don’t think we know how it’s going to shake out yet,” professor Tim Miller said. “This is a difficult time to get through. I want to get through as well as we can.”

Religious studies professor Jonathan Boyarin said, “I hope that we will be able to move forward in our scholarship and teaching with mutual respect among the academic community and the people of Kansas and the larger community around us.”

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Kansas
KEYWORDS: ameritaliban; cawcaw; crevolist; fakehatecrimes; falsechristian; ku; mirecki; paulmirecki
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To: Fester Chugabrew

I'm hoping that was scarcasm.


51 posted on 12/07/2005 9:12:55 AM PST by GOPPachyderm
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To: wideawake
re: autoharassment)))

LOL--

52 posted on 12/07/2005 9:14:23 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Petronski
But the police say they don't know either, yet he claims he CAN point it out. I have to assume he hasn't yet done so

I think you're confusing tow things. The discrepancy is that he talked with the police at the hospital, when he called them from the scene. That could be as easy to explain as 'I'm going to the hospital; meet me there.

The other problem is he doesn't know which of two adjacent section roads the incident happened on. If he's not real familiar with the area, that could happen. He said that before, he was driving around, trying to get his throughts straight before; and after, he was probably dazed. If I were going to fake something like this, I'd have a confederate give me a few bruises; then we'd both drive to the spot, him in a pickup to leave the right tire tracks; then I'd head off to the hospital; and my story would be rehearsed.

I'd credit the theory that he got beat up for some other reason, and decided to add the details about ID; or that while the thugs were laying into him, one said "ain't you the egghead prof on the news?" but I don't believe the incident was a premeditated fake.

53 posted on 12/07/2005 9:16:37 AM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: gridlock

There's the little problem of "filing a false police report" if it turns out that this is autoharassment.


54 posted on 12/07/2005 9:16:51 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Forte Runningrock

RWP is saying he doesn't know what road he takes to work every day... Must be one of the absent-minded types.


55 posted on 12/07/2005 9:18:27 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Right Wing Professor

I don't see what I'm confusing. The police maintain in their report that the location is unknown. He says he can (but won't) point it out.

So again, the two facts I see are: the police don't know the location, but he claims he can point it out.

That is very bizarre and he sounds like a nutjob.


56 posted on 12/07/2005 9:20:34 AM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: Right Wing Professor
At 6:40 in the morning? I doubt it. No, this one is a no-brainer. He doesn't have to talk to the press, but this dope is refusing to cooperate with the police.

I give it another 24 hours before the story falls apart for good.

57 posted on 12/07/2005 9:22:44 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Jonah Hex
There's nothing sadder than a viking kitty suffering from slashus interruptus.

You can hurt yourself like that, you know...

58 posted on 12/07/2005 9:24:15 AM PST by gridlock (eliminate perverse incentives)
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To: puroresu

That sums things up very well. I would be happy with an agnostic approach to science, but it seems "agnostic" isn't good enough for certain folks. It has to be "atheistic."


59 posted on 12/07/2005 9:24:32 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: hinckley buzzard
He doesn't have to talk to the press, but this dope is refusing to cooperate with the police.

Cite?

60 posted on 12/07/2005 9:26:26 AM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: johnnyb_61820

Where is the Evo ping list to this update???????


61 posted on 12/07/2005 9:27:59 AM PST by wallcrawlr (http://www.bionicear.com)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

Exactly!


62 posted on 12/07/2005 9:30:54 AM PST by puroresu (Conservatism is an observation; Liberalism is an ideology)
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To: wallcrawlr
Here's a cite that wold lead one to believe that Mirecki is confusing LE... cite
63 posted on 12/07/2005 9:31:45 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Petronski
I don't see what I'm confusing. The police maintain in their report that the location is unknown. He says he can (but won't) point it out.

Also, there was conflicting information about whether Mirecki reported it at the scene or at the hospital. In an interview Monday with the Journal-World, he said he called police from the side of the road, but sheriff’s officials said they were dispatched to the hospital.

Mirecki declined to clarify the discrepancy when asked about it Tuesday outside the sheriff’s office.

“I can; I just don’t want to,” he said.

The press asked him, not the police, while he was waiting to enter the office.

64 posted on 12/07/2005 9:32:24 AM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: GOPPachyderm

Yes, it was. I try to make it as biting as possible so the /s is not needed. That doesn't seem to work. When I attributed this loony professor's beating to the "course of nature" I was pegged as "gloating" over it. The cause and effect nature of this event seems to be lost on our local scientists.


65 posted on 12/07/2005 9:32:45 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: hinckley buzzard

At 6:40 in the morning, you have three types of people on the road. You have farmers going about their business, workers heading to work, and drunks coming home late from the bar. But you very rarely see people just out driving around looking at the scenery. In the dark.


66 posted on 12/07/2005 9:33:22 AM PST by gridlock (eliminate perverse incentives)
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To: hinckley buzzard

I may be absent minded, but at least I'm not bird-brained.


67 posted on 12/07/2005 9:34:02 AM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: Right Wing Professor
The press asked him, not the police, while he was waiting to enter the office.

Yes, I understand that. But the police maintain in their report that the location of the incident is unknown. How could that be, if he told them (as he claims he can)?

68 posted on 12/07/2005 9:34:38 AM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: wallcrawlr

Maybe their Instant Messaging is down.


69 posted on 12/07/2005 9:36:13 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Petronski
How could that be, if he told them (as he claims he can)?

Where has he claimed he can?

70 posted on 12/07/2005 9:36:20 AM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: GOPPachyderm

Freudian slip - using the word scarcasm rather than sarcasm. But wonder if he will end up with any scars over this?

And by now I've read your response that this was sarcasm.


71 posted on 12/07/2005 9:45:28 AM PST by GOPPachyderm
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To: GOPPachyderm

Freudian slip - using the word scarcasm rather than sarcasm. But wonder if he will end up with any scars over this?

And by now I've read your response that this was sarcasm.


72 posted on 12/07/2005 9:45:28 AM PST by GOPPachyderm
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To: Fester Chugabrew
Jeez Troll, you are entitled to your opinion, mjust as I am. I find your post tobe spiteful, hateful, and basically incorrect, I find you to be arrogant, liberal and an idiot.

See!, I feel better already.

Semper Disgusted

73 posted on 12/07/2005 9:46:11 AM PST by Trident/Delta (Chaos, Panic and Disorder.....My work here is done!)
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To: Trident/Delta

Can't say I didn't have it coming!


74 posted on 12/07/2005 9:47:28 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: johnnyb_61820
Dont Smell Rite
75 posted on 12/07/2005 9:48:50 AM PST by Ghengis (Alexander was a wuss!)
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To: Fester Chugabrew
Damn Fester, I just found the /s... You had me going...You may be a troll-in-training with this machiavellian stuff...Sheesh...

Semper Blush

76 posted on 12/07/2005 9:50:07 AM PST by Trident/Delta (Chaos, Panic and Disorder.....My work here is done!)
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To: Fester Chugabrew
OBTW, The DUmmies are commenting you your post about how FR is fighting amonst themselves et.al.

Semper Undercover

77 posted on 12/07/2005 9:51:54 AM PST by Trident/Delta (Chaos, Panic and Disorder.....My work here is done!)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
Picture this guy going back to the college and trying to run classes and advise students...all the while knowing that they're wondering if he's pulled a Tawanna. The Faulty Lounge. Walking down the hall with students looking him over.

I think he'd want to make his case publicly, and loudly.

78 posted on 12/07/2005 9:53:12 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Trident/Delta

Really? Maybe their Instant Messaging is back up!


79 posted on 12/07/2005 9:54:12 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Right Wing Professor
Well, I think I have been confusing those two things, and I've just now realized that. I don't know if I need more coffee or less. I read the thing three times before catching that distinction, and you're right about my confusion.

But here, I think we need to be careful about assuming facts not in evidence:

The other problem is he doesn't know which of two adjacent section roads the incident happened on.

He SAYS he doesn't know.

I need more information. Either his story will hold up over time, or it won't.

I don't think we can dismiss the possibility that unbeknownst to him, his political allies might have done to him to further "the cause." There's not a damn bit of evidence to that effect, but I don't consider it impossible. Both sides are very irritated about the whole ID debate in KS.

BTW, I'm not on either side. I'm Catholic, so I don't have any issues trying to square evolution with a 6000-year-old earth, nor do I insist on trying to PROVE God created the earth in six literal or figurative days. It's a matter of faith, and I believe He created the earth over a period of time the ancients described in an allegorical six days, and that "evolution" is the way we have come to understand the process He used.

80 posted on 12/07/2005 9:59:23 AM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: Trident/Delta
The DUmmies are commenting on your post . . .

Those catch words must have gotten their attention. They're like a broken record. Sad thing is there are some folks who really think this incident is an indictment against all Christians.

81 posted on 12/07/2005 10:14:15 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Petronski

I didn't make it sufficiently clear, btw, that I don't know or care about the actual age of the earth. My faith doesn't require I prove it's six-thousand years or any other number.


82 posted on 12/07/2005 10:15:54 AM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: Petronski
I need more information. Either his story will hold up over time, or it won't.

Agreed. it will be interesting to see what the police think.

I have a feeling, though, that this is going to be one of those cases where they can't substantiate the report, but can't prove it's false either, and so one side will believe one thing, and the other side will believe the opposite.

83 posted on 12/07/2005 10:22:21 AM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: GOPPachyderm

Hehe. Sometimes a scar is just a scar.


84 posted on 12/07/2005 10:53:06 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: johnnyb_61820

If I, or any number of other "Rednecks", had beat his ass, he would be feeling it a lot more than the faking act he's puttin' on.


85 posted on 12/07/2005 10:59:25 AM PST by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis)
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To: ghost of nixon

I'm from up near Tonganoxie, and I agree with you!


86 posted on 12/07/2005 11:12:35 AM PST by MortMan (Eschew Obfuscation)
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To: Fester Chugabrew
Actually it seems to be in accord with a handful of folks here who have used this incident to paint all Christians as complicit in violence against loony professors.

That paintbrush is actually firmly in the hands of the Christians themselves.

87 posted on 12/07/2005 1:02:06 PM PST by Antonello
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To: dd5339; Vic3O3
I don't have enough facts to make an informed opinion.
One wonders about the alleged beating given the location that the good professor gives as the site of the attack.
Although "rural" there are several homes in relative proximity and the road is traveled. Folks who work first shift in KC or Topeka would be on that route. I would have definitely stopped to assist someone getting a beating or at the very least called 911.
Yet nobody saw anything - nobody called.
Another point worth making are the visible injuries that get more noticeable the more attention the incident gets.
Amazing how that works.
I also wonder at the vapid response from the KU administration which has never had a problem supporting Profs with "controversial" issues. Although there has been no formal statement they really seem to be trying to smooth this over. I have great faith in the Douglas County SD to get to the bottom of this. Professor Mirecki, does the term "Sinking faster than the Lucitainia." mean anything to you. It should. You are.
88 posted on 12/08/2005 8:07:22 AM PST by cavtrooper21 (No snappy tagline ideas available at this time... Please try again later.)
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To: Baby Driver
He probably got beat up by his drug dealer or bookie.

I think he had a lover's spat with his boyfriend.

89 posted on 12/08/2005 8:08:54 AM PST by Alouette (Learned Mother of Zion)
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To: Alouette
I think he had a lover's spat with his boyfriend

Yeah, although it was a foursome with Ward Churchill, English professor John Daly and the hate specialist Kerri Dunn.

Hmm. I'm beginning to see a pattern here with these self-proclaimed icons of tolerance.

90 posted on 12/08/2005 8:45:50 AM PST by VeniVidiVici (What? Me worry?)
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