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Deputy sued for using stun gun on woman
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Posted on 12/08/2005 12:01:42 PM PST by JTN

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To: vrwc0915

The taser is deployed in one of two different deployments. The first deployment method is the probe mode. This constitutes the firing of a taser cartridge. Within the taser cartridge are two probes traveling at approximately 160 feet per second tethered by two insulated wires that conduct the electrical charge of the taser, delivering 50,000 volts of electricity to the subject up to twenty-five feet. The electricity jams the subject’s sensory and motor nervous systems causing incapacitation. The second deployment method is the drive stun mode. This deployment method allows closer contact to the subject and the taser is used as a stun gun. In the drive stun mode, the taser is working off of pain compliance versed the incapacitation ability the probe mode provides.

No, it looks like I was right, in this incident it was used for pain compliance.


321 posted on 12/16/2005 7:05:47 PM PST by car par
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To: car par

Your a former police officer and you don't have a problem with somebody turning their back on you and reaching into a veh after you instructed them not to?


322 posted on 12/16/2005 7:08:03 PM PST by car par
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To: vrwc0915

The above post was meant for you


323 posted on 12/16/2005 7:08:35 PM PST by car par
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To: car par
What section did you find that in?

I was never trained on one, I was just playing a "bad guy" in some training exercises with other departments,Only Sargent's had them where I worked

324 posted on 12/16/2005 7:09:28 PM PST by vrwc0915
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To: vrwc0915

I found it on a different website

http://www.taser.com/documents/Columbus_TASER_Study_June_2005a.pdf#search='taser%20drive%20stun'


325 posted on 12/16/2005 7:12:16 PM PST by car par
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To: car par
I will do some more reading and try to verify, I will admit it when I am wrong.

Regardless of the pain vs disruption issue I think they tend to get overused. I finally got the vid to load. I will have to say that this use was borderline ok, not how I would have handled it but not falling into the JBT class.

326 posted on 12/16/2005 7:20:07 PM PST by vrwc0915
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To: car par
I will do some more reading and try to verify, I will admit it when I am wrong.

Regardless of the pain vs disruption issue I think they tend to get overused. I finally got the vid to load. I will have to say that this use was borderline ok, not how I would have handled it but not falling into the JBT class.

327 posted on 12/16/2005 7:20:13 PM PST by vrwc0915
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To: vrwc0915

The bottom line is this incident didn't become physical until the woman turned around and reached into her car against the ofc's instructions. I think the ofc's had every right at that point to put their hands on her. When they tried to get her under control using muscling techniques she started screaming, "POLICE BRUTALITY", the one ofc then tased her on the arm, they got her under control in a matter of seconds and the incident was over without anybody getting injured.


328 posted on 12/16/2005 7:22:24 PM PST by car par
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To: vrwc0915

I can respect your opinion because it seems to be based on knowledge and experience. I can see how somebody could say they didn't have to taser her. If they didn't have a taser I'm sure they would have been able to get her under control but they may have ended up injuring her in the process then what would people be saying. But to call it brutality, to say it was excessive force, to say she is an innocent victim is ridiculous. There's more than one right way to handle a situation, if they choose not to taser her that would be ok, they choose to taser her which is also ok.


329 posted on 12/16/2005 7:30:58 PM PST by car par
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To: car par

likewise


330 posted on 12/16/2005 7:50:15 PM PST by vrwc0915
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To: elkfersupper

Self-ping for later.


331 posted on 12/17/2005 12:34:28 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: Veritas et equitas ad Votum

Agreed BUMP! Nice homepage, btw.


332 posted on 12/17/2005 9:20:09 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (Cowards cut and run. Marines never do. Murtha can ESAD, that cowardly, no-longer-a-Marine, traitor.)
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To: JTN

"Unfortunately, I can't post the more detailed article from Indystar.com, but here are the important points.

1. Jennifer Marshall was supposedly stopped for running a stoplight.


2. She was given a series of roadside sobriety tests which she passed.

3. She was then given a series of breath tests which were inconclusive (meaning she passed).


4. The police then tell her that she must submit to a blood draw (right then and there) or go to jail.


Here she says she is going to call her lawyer. Both officers tell her no. Again she says she wants to call her lawyer and tries to get her cell phone from her car. At this point, one of the cops, who had just gotten his taser and had not had an opportunity to use it, announces that it's "Taser time!" The hold her against the back of the car, and although she is under complete control, tase her several times"

Almost everything you said above is a lie, no wonder so many of these idiots in here agree with you, they are too dumb or lazy to watch the video and would rather just take your word for it.


333 posted on 01/12/2006 9:57:44 PM PST by car par
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