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Katrina victims demand 'right to return'
Reuters ^ | 12/10/5

Posted on 12/10/2005 3:30:51 PM PST by Crackingham

With jazz music, prayer and offerings to the gods, hundreds of Hurricane Katrina survivors on Saturday demanded the government move faster to rebuild the city and provide evacuees with more disaster assistance. Shouting "We're Back," protesters said they feared the city's poor would be shut out of reconstruction after being dispersed far across the United States since the storm. City officials estimate more than 300,000 New Orleans residents have yet to return since Katrina flooded the city, reducing entire neighborhoods to a rubble-strewn wasteland.

In one of the largest rallies in New Orleans since the hurricane, survivors marched to City Hall from Congo Square, a centuries-old meeting place where African slaves once gathered to trade, play music and dance. African drummers and a brass band dubbed the "Soul Rebels" set the carnival-like tone, while a tribal priest made an offering of rum and watermelon.

"I lived in my house for 45 years -- my mother died and left it to me," said Gloria Brown, 70, an evacuee living in San Francisco. "I swam seven blocks in filthy water with my dog Queenie to survive. I want to come back but I can't pay for it."

The federal government is providing varying amounts of assistance to evacuees to cover temporary housing and living expenses. But some evacuees said they have not yet received any money.

New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin has held meetings with evacuees living in places like Alabama or Mississippi to gather their ideas about how to rebuild the city. City and state officials have yet to determine how to rebuild a faulty levee system that created the flooding, a key decision for insurers and lenders financing the reconstruction. Some hurricane evacuees said there should be less talk and more action.

"Right now they're treating us like refugees," said Mervin Lucas. "They're worried about health in Afghanistan, the cold in Pakistan. They're giving folks in Iraq better things than they're giving us."

Rally organizers accused the city of discriminating against black residents by moving slowly on rebuilding, particularly in low-income areas that were hardest hit, after failing to rescue them quickly in the days following the storm.

"It's no secret the rich white folks uptown don't want us back," said Malcolm Suber, a protest leader with the grass-roots People's Hurricane Relief Fund. "This government left us to starve and to die."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Louisiana
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To: SouthernFreebird

Get a frikkin job and build your own life. It's no wonder if people don't want you back. Bunch of loud mouthed, violent leeches!""
Wherever you got shuffled off to doesn't want you there, either, sucking off the taxpayers.

I realize that the statement "GET A JOB" is something foreign to your ears. Learn what it means and do something about it. Meanwhile, get out of my pocketbook.


51 posted on 12/10/2005 4:26:18 PM PST by ridesthemiles (ridesthemiles)
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To: Conservababe

Ms Conservababe

Do you realize it takes TIME when you have a storm of the century?

Can you wait while the rest of the country does the best they can do?

Or is your name a misnomer, and you're one of the people who think we owe you something just because you breathe.

And I know the post you are talking about; and I have said repeatedly that I did not read that post carefully enough when I agree with THE STATEMENT he made. Of course, apparently that wasn't good enough for you.

That I am a racist is a pile of crap; there are plenty of people on this forum that will say just the opposite.

But I'll tell you one thing, there is something really creepy about people who bookmark other people's remarks and use them years later in an argument like this.

Obviously you've been waiting to use it, since what I said on this thread is not as bad as the other posts on this thread.

That in itself is kind of sick.


52 posted on 12/10/2005 4:26:33 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Crackingham
The head of the "EntitleMania" rises again.

This is the crop we reap from six maybe eight generations of Welfare ingrates and the Liberal Democrats that feed the hate and racism that exists in this just one pocket of slum scum.

Flame away DU wannabes, I have grown a thicker skin since my last rake over the coals. These folks will not be happy until they get "Big Screens" and deep pile carpet a Cadillac in the driveway and enough Welfare money to procreate in a manner that they have become accustomed to.

TT
53 posted on 12/10/2005 4:29:30 PM PST by TexasTransplant (NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSET)
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To: SouthernFreebird

Get a frikkin job and build your own life. It's no wonder if people don't want you back. Bunch of loud mouthed, violent leeches!""
Wherever you got shuffled off to doesn't want you there, either, sucking off the taxpayers.

I realize that the statement "GET A JOB" is something foreign to your ears. Learn what it means and do something about it. Meanwhile, get out of my pocketbook.


54 posted on 12/10/2005 4:30:54 PM PST by ridesthemiles (ridesthemiles)
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To: Conservababe

In case you have'nt read ..babe most if not all of the city sewer, water and public utilities have been restored to all but some corners of the 9th ward. So know what you are talkng about before you troll here with the monicker of Conservbabe.


55 posted on 12/10/2005 4:32:40 PM PST by lwg8tr
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To: Howlin

Yes, I do realize that it takes time to recover from a once in a lifetime disaster. That is why it makes me fume to hear other posters on FR calling them lazy welfare bums just wanting to live on government handouts.

A lot of these evacuees are home owners who want to get back to their homes that they are still trying to make mortgage payments on, but are unable to live in because the city is still not livable without services.


56 posted on 12/10/2005 4:34:50 PM PST by Conservababe
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To: Howlin

The five people you refer to at the congressional hearings were hand picked by Cynthia McKinney, the nutcase congresswoman from Georgia. She picked them soley to further her own racist agenda. We down here in Louisiana certainly don't claim those five as our spokespeople. They are hardly representative of the vast majority of the people down here. There are some nuts and troublemakers down here, no doubt, but there are also a lot of hard working, honest people just like anywhere else. We can't control what the media puts out for the rest of the world to see.


57 posted on 12/10/2005 4:36:33 PM PST by WatchOutForSnakes
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To: WatchOutForSnakes

No kidding. But they were there to represent the people of New Orleans.


58 posted on 12/10/2005 4:39:38 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Conservababe
A lot of these evacuees are home owners who want to get back to their homes that they are still trying to make mortgage payments on, but are unable to live in because the city is still not livable without services

Those are the very people who sat by for years and let the powers that be in New Orleans and Lousiana trash that state.

Now that they're in a bind, they rush to the nearest journalist and attack those of us who have NOTHING whatsoever to do with the situation they're in, other than the fact that they EXPECT us to pay for it.

59 posted on 12/10/2005 4:42:14 PM PST by Howlin
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To: John Jorsett
In case it escaped your notice, the government that left you to starve and die is mostly Black.

And being a DC area native I can say that there is a pattern: They want to have the local government that actually let them down preserved and subsidized by everyone else in the country. Furthermore, they want the victim mentality that made them more vulnerable to be kept intact also.

Under no circumstances do they want to consider reviewing their own responsibilities in how their reaction may have made a difficult challenge from Nature into a hideous, embarrasing display of stupidity and self-indulgence.
60 posted on 12/10/2005 4:42:30 PM PST by walford (http://utopia-unmasked.us)
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To: WatchOutForSnakes
They are hardly representative of the vast majority of the people down here.

And I understand that, too.

61 posted on 12/10/2005 4:43:19 PM PST by Howlin
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To: lwg8tr

Actually I'm not sure that is correct. There are still huge areas of New Orleans East and Lakeview without power or gas services. And most of St. Bernard Parish and Plaquemines Parish have no services at all.


62 posted on 12/10/2005 4:43:37 PM PST by WatchOutForSnakes
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To: Crackingham
Maybe they should listen to the begging of their crackpot mayor.

FR search for Mayor Nagin implores residents to return

Nagin implores residents to return, rebuild

New Orleans Mayor Beseeches Residents To Return to Their City

Return To New Orleans Is Urged ("come on home"), Residents Return - to Ruin

New Orleans mayor pushing for people to return

63 posted on 12/10/2005 4:48:09 PM PST by Arrowhead1952 (I never got a job from a person on a government program.)
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To: Howlin
Those are the very people who sat by for years and let the powers that be in New Orleans and Lousiana trash that state.

And the same can be said for the blue states, no?

64 posted on 12/10/2005 4:48:55 PM PST by Conservababe
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To: Crackingham
"I lived in my house for 45 years -- my mother died and left it to me," said Gloria Brown, 70, an evacuee living in San Francisco. "I swam seven blocks in filthy water with my dog Queenie to survive. I want to come back but I can't pay for it."

Talk to God Missy for he is the only one that holds the key to the demise of those stupid enough to place themselves into a position of calamity and then expect others to take them to their nipple and nurse them back to a position of preparing to only jump at a breast and feed again.

65 posted on 12/10/2005 4:51:29 PM PST by EGPWS
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To: Crackingham

I guess they heard about the $90 million that is to be distributed soon to N.O.


66 posted on 12/10/2005 4:53:56 PM PST by Citizen Soldier
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To: Conservababe
And the same can be said for the blue states, no?

I think Louisiana and New Orleans pretty much have that honor nailed down.

67 posted on 12/10/2005 4:54:44 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Crackingham
offerings to the gods,

What the.....? That's it. My give a damn just broke. I don't care if New Orleans is rebuilt. Frankly, it sounds like Katrina had a cleansing affect.

68 posted on 12/10/2005 4:54:50 PM PST by thathamiltonwoman
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To: thathamiltonwoman
What the.....? That's it. My give a damn just broke. I don't care if New Orleans is rebuilt.

I posted something similar to your post about a month ago and got beat up pretty good!

Welcome to the wiser side.

69 posted on 12/10/2005 5:01:00 PM PST by Randy Larsen (I BELIEVE CONGRESSMAN WELDON!!!)
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To: Crackingham
a tribal priest made an offering of rum and watermelon.

Umm. Is this what passes for communion in NOLA?
70 posted on 12/10/2005 5:18:16 PM PST by horse_doc
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To: Conservababe



Howling is not racist, but you seem to have no problem defending those who are racists and complain about whitey at every opportunity. It's all those rich working white folks that the blacks are bitching about that pay the taxes to keep the city going and feed the lazy azzes that do nothing but drain the resouces.

I've never in my life seen so many over fed and housed people screaming about being starved by the white folks. Frankly I don't think that many welfare people should be housed together as they were in NO. It's a disaster waiting to happen to have so many who don't have enough sense to come in out of the rain.


71 posted on 12/10/2005 5:39:39 PM PST by SouthernFreebird
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To: SouthernFreebird
I've never in my life seen so many over fed and housed people screaming about being starved by the white folks. Frankly I don't think that many welfare people should be housed together as they were in NO. It's a disaster waiting to happen to have so many who don't have enough sense to come in out of the rain.

Well now, ders de projects and ders the homeowners, dude. Homeowners pay property tax unless they are homesteaded as is law in Louisiana.

Why don't you take your innovative idea of not housing welfare recipients to the federal government? They could probably use the idea in Detroit, Chicago or any other large city.

Oh, but wait, they have already. They have proposed housing the poor in your own neighborhood. Did you like it and support it? LOL

72 posted on 12/10/2005 5:54:37 PM PST by Conservababe
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To: Howlin

They were there to represent the agenda of the NAACP and the Congressional Black Caucus. The folks who are working hard at the recovery don't have time to get on tv to whine and complain.

Sometimes what you hear and see on tv isn't exactly what's going on.


73 posted on 12/10/2005 5:55:18 PM PST by CajunConservative (Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Jindal.)
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To: Old Student

Habitat for Humanity is doing a lot of work here along with other non profits.


74 posted on 12/10/2005 6:01:21 PM PST by CajunConservative (Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Jindal.)
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To: Conservababe
Idiot, I am poor. People in my neighborhood are poor. But we all go to work. We prepare for bad weather snow storms, tornadoes, hurricanes, fires and floods,we get it all.

We don't sit around on our butts complaining about those rich white people who pay a TON of taxes on what they own to keep things running. We appreciate the help we get and try to be as independent as possible.

We were wiped out by floods 2 years ago. Not a town around here was spared, whole communities lost their housings and businesses yet never did we see anyone complain about the Government not rescuing us. No one complained about those who were fortunate enough to not lose their homes. Lots of those places are still in the rebuilding process and no complaints.

Here's what we saw on TV. People crying over the homes or businesses they lost, but oh so grateful for what they still had, their families and the ability to rebuild. Everyone worked together and things got done. No one had to guard their property from dirty thieves who think they have a right to swoop in like vultures at the first sign of people in trouble.

I'm disgusted with the whole lot of NO residents. I wouldn't send a thin dime to rebuild that POS place. Furthermore I'd say the black community needs to take a hard look at their culture to find the reason for such a failure of their people in dealing with adversity.
75 posted on 12/10/2005 6:13:18 PM PST by SouthernFreebird
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To: CajunConservative
"Habitat for Humanity is doing a lot of work here along with other non profits."

Yes, and they do good and useful work, even if they do use Former-President Peanut for a spokesman now and again. I'm easy, so I'll allow them that one error.
76 posted on 12/10/2005 6:13:59 PM PST by Old Student (WRM, MSgt, USAF(Ret.))
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To: Old Student

He would have done more good for the world had he simply did his charity work and not run for the presidency.


77 posted on 12/10/2005 6:15:51 PM PST by CajunConservative (Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Jindal.)
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To: CajunConservative
"He would have done more good for the world had he simply did his charity work and not run for the presidency."

You sure nailed that one! After some years of reflection, I still can't decide if Clinton was better than Carter, or just almost as bad... What a quandary.
78 posted on 12/10/2005 6:20:09 PM PST by Old Student (WRM, MSgt, USAF(Ret.))
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To: Crackingham; All
... survivors marched to City Hall from Congo Square, a centuries-old meeting place where African slaves once gathered to trade, play music and dance. African drummers and a brass band dubbed the "Soul Rebels" set the carnival-like tone, while a tribal priest made an offering of rum and watermelon.


Latter Day Revisionist History. Possibly invented about the same time as Kwaaaaanzaaaaa.

FWIW, Congo Square was the site of Slave Auctions. That's right, folks ... in a pre-PC World, that is where white folks bought and sold black folks.

In bygone times, there was not a whole lot of partying goin' on by the black folks in Congo Square ... the only "trade" going on in Congo Square was the slave trade.

This faux "tribal priest" making a faux "offering" with rum and watermelon ... [what interesting visual images that conjures up!] ... is, at, best just playtime for people who have too much time on their hands that could be better used in more productive ways [like cleaning up and rebuilding their city].

This whole thing is typical of the ersatz culture, and pathetically Disneyfied fraud, that New Orleans has become.

< /history lesson >

79 posted on 12/10/2005 6:22:10 PM PST by caryatid (Jolie Blonde, 'gardez donc, quoi t'as fait ...)
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To: FreedomPoster

It was crushed mercilessly by the welfare state.


80 posted on 12/10/2005 6:36:23 PM PST by thoughtomator (What'ya mean you formatted the cat!?)
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To: SouthernFreebird
"I'm disgusted with the whole lot of NO residents."

The whole lot? Wow, that's quite a statement there Freebird. You know when you make such broad statements it really takes away from any argument you want to make. It's your perogative to not send any money to help but I bet if you tried really, really hard you just might be able to find one, heck maybe even TWO residents in New Orleans who are trying to do the right thing, work hard, get back on their feet and start their lives again. And if there is just ONE person in New Orleans doing that then you shouldn't be disgusted with the "whole lot", right?
81 posted on 12/10/2005 6:46:59 PM PST by WatchOutForSnakes
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To: Crackingham

"It's no secret the rich white folks uptown don't want us back," said Malcolm Suber, a protest leader with the grass-roots People's Hurricane Relief Fund. "This government left us to starve and to die."


----Amazing how if we say one thing we are being racist and they are allowed to spout racial comments every friggin time they open their mouths. Funny part of it is, their comments are all a bunch of BS not even worth listening to. GET JOBS.


82 posted on 12/10/2005 7:01:50 PM PST by WasDougsLamb (I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed man)
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To: Conservababe
I have long felt that the government (city, state and fed) have determined that NO will be built for corporate interests and not for the residents.

Hi conservbabe - I take it you do not believe that businesses must return first followed by the people?

Your posts tell me that you do not "get" New Orleans other than the headlines you read. Just as in Irag, the progress being made in New Orleans is not being heralded by the media. You are being used if you believe everything these self appointed Cynthia McKinneys are espousing, courtesy of the msm.

83 posted on 12/10/2005 7:31:38 PM PST by daybreakcoming (May God bless those who enter the valley of the shadow of death so that we may see the light of day.)
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To: onyx

Seems to me they could have diverted their energy from having a parade into giving a hand in digging their own houses out of the muck.

Seems that those who suffered as much or more in the rest of that state, as well as two other neighboring states have little time left to protest, as they are too busy digging.


84 posted on 12/10/2005 7:45:52 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: UCANSEE2


You are making far too much sense!


85 posted on 12/10/2005 7:59:49 PM PST by onyx ((Vicksburg, MS) North is a direction. South is a way of life.)
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To: Crackingham
"...demanded the government move faster to rebuild the city and provide evacuees with more disaster assistance."

And just what are they doing to rebuild their own lives?

86 posted on 12/10/2005 8:10:29 PM PST by sweetliberty (Stupidity should make you sterile.)
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To: Crackingham
"The federal government is providing varying amounts of assistance to evacuees to cover temporary housing and living expenses. But some evacuees said they have not yet received any money."

It sounds like some of them never left the plantation. They're still waiting for massa to provide for them. It's just that massa is federalized now rather than privatized.

87 posted on 12/10/2005 8:29:11 PM PST by sweetliberty (Stupidity should make you sterile.)
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To: WatchOutForSnakes
Oh bite me. I'm sick of the whole lot in NO. I don't give a rip if even half are trying. So what R you gonna do about that. Broad brush my butt...all I've seen come out of NO since Katrina is bitching and whinning and racists statements from blacks about whites as they have their hands out demanding even more money.

Queers dancing in the streets celebrating their nasty sexual habits while the bodies of their fellow citizens were still floating by.

LE taking vacations before the streets were even dry. Others too busy looting to keep any law. Criminals set free while the helpless old people were left to die.

And there is so much more that makes my skin crawl about that place and the people that inhabit it, I don't even want to put an effort into finding that one person you think exists in NO.
88 posted on 12/10/2005 8:34:10 PM PST by SouthernFreebird
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To: Howlin
I've been looking for a Texan to ask this question: how is it going down there with the evacuees?

I live in the North Texas (Dallas) area and while I understand the are some evacuees living in these parts I have personally noticed no difference. My daughter knows of two kids from NO in her middle school and they seem to have adjusted well. I do recall hearing of an assault, I believe it was, in Ft. Worth committed by a Katrina evacuee. Other than that all seems to be quiet in this neck of the woods. I know initially most were placed in the San Antonio area but I believe a fair number of them have been dispersed throughout our state and other states in this region.

My company is an IT service provider and I know both Katrina and Rita put a strain on local as well as national IT disaster recovery facilities for awhile but that was to be expected and seemed to have pretty much abated by early to mid November.

So all in all, not too bad. I just hope that if they choose to stay in Texas it doesn't shift the political demographic back to the left. Those were not good days.

Those evacuees with the entitlement mentality are welcome take it right back to Louisiana. I'll even chip in on the bus ride.

89 posted on 12/10/2005 8:42:29 PM PST by ItsForTheChildren
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To: SouthernFreebird

You say so much about yourself in your post. You do not like what was the city of NO. How do you feel about Vegas, I am wondering. LOL


90 posted on 12/10/2005 9:35:49 PM PST by Conservababe
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To: Howlin

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Obviously you've been waiting to use it, since what I said on this thread is not as bad as the other posts on this thread.
<<

I think some folks from DU have figured out a way to hijack dormant FReeper accounts. That's about the fifth one I've seen just today.


91 posted on 12/10/2005 10:36:16 PM PST by noblejones (Ben Stein for President, 2008.)
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To: Conservababe

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Yes, I do realize that it takes time to recover from a once in a lifetime disaster. That is why it makes me fume to hear other posters on FR calling them lazy welfare bums just wanting to live on government handouts.
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Try reading the article.


92 posted on 12/10/2005 10:37:50 PM PST by noblejones (Ben Stein for President, 2008.)
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To: Crackingham
I want to come back but I can't pay for it.

Well I want a new house myself. But I don't expect someone else to pay for it.

93 posted on 12/11/2005 1:16:14 AM PST by packrat35 (The America hating bastards at the NYT must spend their entire life with their heads in the toiletat)
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To: billhilly

He came to Memphis to speak also.


94 posted on 12/11/2005 1:20:26 AM PST by packrat35 (The America hating bastards at the NYT must spend their entire life with their heads in the toiletat)
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To: SouthernFreebird

I love getting posts like this one. It's just one more unreasonable person exposed. Now most reasonable people know to just ignore your posts and thoughts because they are so irrational. It's like taking candy from a baby.


95 posted on 12/11/2005 5:57:08 AM PST by WatchOutForSnakes
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To: WatchOutForSnakes


Not unreasonable.

Disgusted and pissed. But if it makes you feel better to deny what we've all seen and read of the NO crowd then knock yourself out dude.


96 posted on 12/11/2005 6:02:28 AM PST by SouthernFreebird
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To: Crackingham

Demonstrators march down Canal Street during a protest for hurricane victims' rights in New Orleans December 10, 2005. Protesters feared they would receive federal funds to rebuild their homes. REUTERS/Lee Celano


Mary Ihsaan holds a sign in front of New Orleans City Hall, Saturday, Dec. 10, 2005, during a hurricane survivors march. Katrina survivors from New Orleans and the Gulf South and their supporters from around the U.S. assembled at the birthplace of Jazz, Congo Square and marched to the city hall to present a 'Declaration of the People' . (AP Photo/Chitose Suzuki)


Royce Osbourne (L), in a skeleton mask, takes part in an African ritual during a protest for hurricane victims' rights in New Orleans December 10, 2005. Protesters feared they would receive federal funds to rebuild their homes. REUTERS/Lee Celano


Royce Osbourne, in a skeleton mask, marches in a protest for hurricane victims' rights in New Orleans December 10, 200. Protesters feared they would receive federal funds to rebuild their homes. REUTERS/Lee Celano


Evonne Tisdale (L) of Philadelphia chants a slogan during a protest for hurricane victims' rights in New Orleans December 10, 200. Protesters feared they would receive federal funds to rebuild their homes. REUTERS/Lee Celano


Viole Washington of New Orleans, face to camera, receives a hug from a supporter Njere Alghanee from Atlanta, Ga., in front of New Orleans City Hall, during a hurricane survivors march, Saturday Dec. 10, 2005 in New Orleans. Katrina survivors from New Orleans and the Gulf South and their supporters from around the U.S. assembled at the birthplace of Jazz, Congo Square and marched to the city hall to present a Declaration of the People . (AP Photo/Chitose Suzuki)


Demonstrators pass by a pile of debris during a protest for hurricane victims' rights in New Orleans December 10, 200. Protesters feared they would receive federal funds to rebuild their homes. REUTERS/Lee Celano


Members of the Soul Rebels brass band performs during a protest for hurricane victims' rights in New Orleans December 10, 200. Protesters feared they would receive federal funds to rebuild their homes. REUTERS/Lee Celano

97 posted on 12/11/2005 6:15:54 AM PST by Libloather (God bless America - and the blue states, too...)
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To: Crackingham; TexasCajun; Howlin; Liz
From NOLA.com -

'Justice After Katrina' was sponsored by a host of activist groups banded together as the People's Hurricane Relief Fund & Oversight Coalition, all protesting the mass displacement of residents and the failure of local levee.

From the People's Hurricane Relief Fund & Oversight Coalition website -

OBJECTIVES

The Objectives of the December 8-10, 2005 Assembly/Conference and the Demonstration are as follows:

1. To build a Hurricane Katrina Survivors General Assembly which will speak for the Gulf Coast Survivors and which will demand and exercise the peoples right to self determination in New Orleans and other effected gulf coast areas in Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama.

2. To demand the people’s right to return to New Orleans and to the Mississippi and Alabama Gulf Coast with dignity and without poverty.

3. To demand reparations for the governments’ criminal indifference, negligence, and malicious actions towards the Victims and Survivors, before, during and after Katrina.

4. To demand, launch and/or continue investigations, law suits and prosecutions of governments, agencies and persons responsible for the human rights violations and crimes against humanity committed before, during and after Katrina.

5. To build a national united front in support and solidarity with the self determination and reparation demands of Katrina Survivors, and through this front to design and initiate a plan of action and institutions which will allow black people to fortify themselves and serve their own needs in the face of future disasters which are either natural or by human hands.

6. To link today’s demands for reparations and self determination to the historical and future struggle of black people and other oppressed populations for self determination and reparations.

98 posted on 12/11/2005 7:01:06 AM PST by Libloather (God bless America - and the blue states, too...)
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To: Herford Turley
Racist statement anyone?

Of course not. The speaker was black...

99 posted on 12/11/2005 7:04:06 AM PST by pageonetoo (You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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To: Conservababe
And the black residents of NO probably do have a complaint. I have long felt that the government (city, state and fed) have determined that NO will be built for corporate interests and not for the residents.

Who in the hell do you think pays for things? Do you think it's the Gum't that pays for rebuilding? Is it proper for these (for the most part) leaches, that are demanding their projects be rebuilt, so they can come back to sit idle?

If business isn't reconstructed, there are no jobs. If no jobs, then who pays for the welfare state? If no profit-led business taxes are paid, then the burden of paying their bills, falls on others. Maybe they need more casinos.

They are not owed a damn thing. Charity is a freely offered thing, not something extorted... and yes, it is mostly poor black people that are affected. Maybe it isn't "somebody else's fault"!

100 posted on 12/11/2005 7:14:13 AM PST by pageonetoo (You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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