Skip to comments.Israel readies forces for strike on nuclear Iran
Posted on 12/10/2005 6:48:44 PM PST by rhainw
ISRAELS armed forces have been ordered by Ariel Sharon, the prime minister, to be ready by the end of March for possible strikes on secret uranium enrichment sites in Iran, military sources have revealed. The order came after Israeli intelligence warned the government that Iran was operating enrichment facilities, believed to be small and concealed in civilian locations.
Irans stand-off with the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) over nuclear inspections and aggressive rhetoric from Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the Iranian president, who said last week that Israel should be moved to Europe, are causing mounting concern.
The crisis is set to come to a head in early March, when Mohamed El-Baradei, the head of the IAEA, will present his next report on Iran. El-Baradei, who received the Nobel peace prize yesterday, warned that the world was losing patience with Iran.
A senior White House source said the threat of a nuclear Iran was moving to the top of the international agenda and the issue now was: What next? That question would have to be answered in the next few months, he said.
Defence sources in Israel believe the end of March to be the point of no return after which Iran will have the technical expertise to enrich uranium in sufficient quantities to build a nuclear warhead in two to four years.
Israel and not only Israel cannot accept a nuclear Iran, Sharon warned recently. We have the ability to deal with this and were making all the necessary preparations to be ready for such a situation.
The order to prepare for a possible attack went through the Israeli defence ministry to the chief of staff. Sources inside special forces command confirmed that G readiness the highest stage for an operation was announced last week.
Gholamreza Aghazadeah, head of the Atomic Organisation of Iran, warned yesterday that his country would produce nuclear fuel. There is no doubt that we have to carry out uranium enrichment, he said.
He promised it would not be done during forthcoming talks with European negotiators. But although Iran insists it wants only nuclear energy, Israeli intelligence has concluded it is deceiving the world and has no intention of giving up what it believes is its right to develop nuclear weapons.
A massive Israeli intelligence operation has been underway since Iran was designated the top priority for 2005, according to security sources.
Cross-border operations and signal intelligence from a base established by the Israelis in northern Iraq are said to have identified a number of Iranian uranium enrichment sites unknown to the the IAEA.
Since Israel destroyed the Osirak nuclear reactor in Iraq in 1981, it has been understood that the lesson is, dont have one site, have 50 sites, a White House source said.
If a military operation is approved, Israel will use air and ground forces against several nuclear targets in the hope of stalling Tehrans nuclear programme for years, according to Israeli military sources.
It is believed Israel would call on its top special forces brigade, Unit 262 the equivalent of the SAS and the F-15I strategic 69 Squadron, which can strike Iran and return to Israel without refuelling.
Family Guy is very liberal. It's full of little remarks and asides against Republicans. Remember, it's set in Rhode Island. Of course, the lead character making the remarks is a crude pig....
My kind of women! ;-)
We should declare war on Iran. Next, we should begin saturation bombing of the Iran-Iraq border. Then, Mullahs should start turning up dead in large numbers.
Russia is mentioned here but people should understand that the wounded and humiliated Bear may not stand quiet while its client state is pulverized.
This is the ugly World War III scenario. The evil Bear is alligned with the evil mullahs.
Bush does not understand or know Russia's history or Putin's soul. He has been misled by interim agreements on other issues.
Are you sure you are talking about our Congress?
Iran's royal presentation
Iranian soldiers showing-off their artistic side.
9 December 2005: Iran's President: OIC agreed any threat against any OIC memberwill be seen as threat to entire Islamic world
I don't like the sound of this at all.
If this statement is true, then the Organization of Islamic Countries has decided that any action against a member country would be considered as a threat to all of the countries, and would require action.
I'd like to see a transcription from the OIC conference in Mecca to see if this is actually what they decided.
But how they plan to enforce this is another matter...
President (Mahmud) Ahmadinezhad, who had gone to Saudi Arabia in order to attend the extraordinary summit of the Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC), returned to Tehran this morning.
Speaking to reporters after arriving in Tehran, the president commented on the Mecca summit and said:
(Ahmadinezhad, recording) One of the most important decisions taken was about supporting the member states against foreign threats. The resolution of the summit said that any threat against any member of the OIC will be tantamount to threatening the entire world of Islam. This paves the way to defending the Islamic territories as well as compiling and signing joint security and defence pacts. Moreover, (it paves the way) to defending the rights of Muslims all over the world, in particular in those states where Muslims are in the minority. This was approved by the summit too.
We are witnessing that, today in the world, hostility to Islam is promoted in an organized manner and those opposing Islam are given support. The summit made good decisions to combat hostility against Islam in the world.
In connection with the issue of creating an affinity among various Islamic sects, which is the foundation of the Islamic ummah's (nation's) unity, fortunately all the various sects that are practised in the Islamic world today were formally recognized. This was mentioned in the official charter of the OIC. The names of Sunni and Shi'i sects were written down, indicating that all of these sects are recognized in all Islamic countries. It was made a future agenda of the summit and member states to endeavour and create affinity and encourage talks among these sects.
We got a Get You A Woman....but would David Clayton Thomas approve?
war is alway beyond explanation and war always defies logic, but regrettably war is sometimes necessary.
I agree. Here are 2 of my posts on prior threads that propose one approach to the issue.
Kurds drift toward autonomy, away from Iraq's daily violence
Posted by Kevin OMalley to Camerican
On News/Activism 01/03/2005 1:51:59 PM PST · 7 of 7
I thought it would be cool for us to set up security for the Kurds on their southern border with Iraq, rewarding them for their bravery in defying Saddam Hussein. We put in some military bases there for, say, 20 years as part of the occupation of Iraq in their transition to democracy. We guarantee the autonomy of Iraqi Kurdistan as long as they don't engage with Turkey. But that doesn't say anything about engaging with Iranian Kurdistan. Within those 20 years the Kurds could have a secure and independent nation with expanding borders into Iran. After we close down the US bases, Kurdistan is on her own. But at least Kurdistan would be an independent nation with about half its territory carved out of Persia. If Turkey doesn't relinquish her claim on Turkish Kurdistan after that, it isn't our problem, it's 2 of our allies fighting each other, one for independence and the other for regional primacy. I support democratic independence over a bullying arrogant minority.
Armed Kurds fomenting unrest in Iran pose security threat to Tehran
Posted by Kevin OMalley to F14 Pilot
On News/Activism 08/29/2005 4:18:19 PM PDT · 16 of 17
The kurds are the closest thing we have to friends in that area. They fought against Saddam (got nerve-gassed), they're fighting against Iran, they squabble with our so-called ally Turkey (who didn't allow Americans to operate in the north of Iraq this time around).
It's time for them to have their own country. They deserve it. They carve Kurdistan out of northern Iraq, northern Iran, and eastern Turkey. If Turkey gets angry, we let them know that there are consequences to turning your back on your "friend".
I don't believe the iranian resistance exists, except for a couple hundred university students.
Dr Zin and fellow travelers make a big noise here on FR, but in fact there seems to be more resistance in Communist China and Cuba.
Precisely where they have placed themselves...
They failed to behave as an ally, when they refused transit across Turkey for the Northern Invasion of Iraq --- making it more dangerous for those coming from the South...
It certainly contributed to other problems, all of which led to more Coalition blood being spilled ---- and movement of "unknown" assets into Syria...
Turkey remains more Muslim than Western Ally....
I haven't seen any justification to see them otherwise.
It's hard to imagine that 14 guys would fly jets into tall buildings knowing that to do so would mean near instant extinction.
Absolutly! God Bless the Child.
However, I don't know what Burton Cummings responce would be.
Count it as a regular disinformation piece. Whatever'll be done will be done in a surprise manner, like an ICBM warhead landing.
IMHO, the RNC and ANY conservative news organization should start RIGHT NOW getting EVERY SINGLE DEM on record and tape with their "opinion" of this, so they can't spin it or deny it later if they felt they made a "bad choice" of which side of the "arguement" they fall on.
Their contradictory "opinions" could be VERY useful in up coming elections, as some of them are now in the Iraqi situation....
...again, just my VERY humble opinion...
You may be right. And certainly a ground war would be tough.
It probably does make sense for Israel to take the lead. The Rats will give them a pass, whereas they would not do the same for Bush.
good luck boys!
They're wasting time talking about it. Get on with it already! "The bombing begins in 5 minutes."
For a minute there I thought this was Debka. Who the hell tells everyone they're going to do a surprise attack?
There's a wealth of fun build your own atomic bomb projects like this one on the web to speed things up a bit.
***It'll be WWIII, I doubt have any doubt in my mind.***
It's already WW#, and has been since 1979. We just didn't realize it until 9/11 2001....
The Carter legacy, the legacy that keeps on giving.
A). The media will cover it up.
B). The left will claim it was planted by Bush/Cheney/Rove
C). They'll dust off the Abu Graib headlines and we'll see the guy in the black robe ... yet again.
We tell our enemies well in advance ... what are they gonna do except use the democrat's "cut and run" defense?
2006 is shaping up to be a most interesting year.
This is saber rattling. It has a purpose in and of itself. It is designed to influence the current political balance and prevent trends extant from congealing into war. Since it defines causus belli clearly, it itcreases the liklihood of war but it also gives all parties an opportunity to avoid use of force. It provides focus.
"Cross-border operations and signal intelligence from a base established by the Israelis in northern Iraq are said to have identified a number of Iranian uranium enrichment sites unknown to the the IAEA. "
A base in Norther iraq? if true, i am amaze3d it hasn't been mentioned elsewhere.
The piece is published by the timesonline.co.uk. Is it western Europe's wishful thinking, or will Israel really do Europe's dirty work again?
New Iran missiles can reach London
I would guess that a more likely scenerio would be massive conventional destruction of what can be located and destroyed and a simultaneous attack on the government of Iran. Ignore the military but destroy the government as completely and deeply as possible. Go after the brain rather than the muscle. Invite them to reconstitute and provide more targets. A collapsed and chaotic country may not be as willing or able to pursue the destruction of Israel.
"It'll be WWIII, I doubt have any doubt in my mind."
It will lead to Armaggedon....I don't have any doubt in my mind.
And not just pray.
Read Ezekiel 38, 39 and Zechariah 12-14 and the book of Revelation.
The greatest ass-kicking of all time.
There are no S-300 systems in Iran or the Gulf region. It does not appear on any threat list for Coalition forces stationed there. The Russians will probably supply the S-300 sytstem in the future. The SA-15 deal in my opinion was just the tester and the deal for S-300s will probably follow. The Russians will probably lease them to Iran and station them around nuclear facilities that have Russian personell in them.
" Syria is in this up to their eyeballs. " ...... they always have, even in the Old Testament.
Makes sense to me too. Israel hits them hard, Iran retaliates by attacking US ships in the Persian Gulf, US responds in self-defense with possible British support in the south and Kurd uprisings in the north.
UN will still be upset, but irrelevant. Russia & China will not be amused. MSM & Dems go nuts.
Perhaps the date is off, and they're ready right now.
God Bless Israel
Now why would you say that to someone who expressed an on thread opinion?
Do you have an agenda?
The MSM keeps saying that the stuff is dispersed and buried deep. I hope both Israel (and we) know where it is. Whatever happens, Israel (and Bush) will be blamed internationally; so we might as well get it over with before it is too late.
This will be Sharon's defining moment; no matter the politics, the man is and always will be a soldier. His mission is to defend his country, and my prayers are with him and Israel.
These vermin think nothing of eradicating innocent women and children. The current president of Iran has avowed that even if Israel retaliates and kills 30 million muslims, it would still be worth it because all the Jews would then be wiped out. Words such as these betray madness of the sort that once inhabited the likes of Hitler, Stalin & Mao.
Now more than ever, we need a modern day Gideon and three hundred brave warriors blessed by God to face and destroy this filth -- and we should assist, the devil be damned with international consequences! It's time we took the genie that Carter let out of the bottle back in the 70's and forcefully choked it back down into whatever cesspool it first crawled out from.
Never forget 1983... 241 Marines silently stand guard upon the streets of heaven because of the mullahs; it's high time that outstanding account was put paid to.
I thought it was decided Israels best planes can barely even reach the sites.